Talk:2010 IAAF World Half Marathon Championships

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November 26, 2010Good article nomineeListed

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Reviewer: Racepacket (talk) 17:35, 17 November 2010 (UTC) GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria[reply]

Obviously the result of much work. I am putting on hold so that you can address the issues noted.

  1. Is it reasonably well written?
    A. Prose quality:
    "prize purse" instead of "prize pot"? (Changed (maybe this is a case of an unusual English variant?).)
    "through recent form" change to "through recent performances" (Fixed.)
    in the infobox use the convert template to add the 13.1 mi equivalent distance (Done in plain text to allow break onto two lines.)
    explain that total medal table is for just this edition, not cumulative for prior editions in a note. I am not sure that this table adds much because it mixes teams with individual awards (Removed. This is not traditionally done in these types of competition, so I have removed it.)
    B. MoS compliance:
    Bhutanese links to a disamb. page (Dabbed link.)
  2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
    A. References to sources:
    Need ref for: "China's leading athlete was Zhu Xiaolin and she aimed to build upon the achievements of former champions Ren Xiujuan and Sun Yingjie for the hosts." (Rewritten to follow source.)
    Need ref for: "For Dire and Arusei – both prolific road runners – this was their first individual medal on the world stage." (Provided.)
    B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
    Need citations to non-IAAF sources. Independent press accounts (Additional independent sources added.)
    Connection refused on Ref 10. (This is an image file. It connects for me but it quite large in size so may come back refused.)
    C. No original research:
    Is the total medal table OR? It is unreferenced. (The results prove this is not original research, it is unusual though so I have removed it.)
  3. Is it broad in its coverage?
    A. Major aspects:
    Explain why Eritrean team competed separately from Ethiopia. (Eritrea regained independence almost twenty years ago, I think this would be a little off-topic to explore on such a year specific article.)
    What was the distance of the mass fun run event? Did it follow the same course? (Found the distances, no luck on the courses.)
    Did anyone fail the drug tests or was otherwise disqualified? You report that testing was conducted without reporting the outcome. (Governing bodies and the IAAF typically do not release this information unless there is a positive test or the negative results are of much public interest - example.) There have been no reports of positive tests and no athlete's result has been disqualified – suggesting all negative at present.)
    Was there public attention to the event? Spectators along the route and/or live television coverage? (TV broadcast info added.)
    Was transponder timing used or was it a video camera system? (From the Chinese sources I have read, I would lean towards the former, but I don't have a conclusive-enough citation to include that.)
    B. Focused:
  4. Is it neutral?
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. Is it stable?
    No edit wars, etc:
  6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
    A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
    B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
    Add to Dire Tune caption that photo was taken at Boston Marathon (Done.)
    Add to Penninah Arusei caption that photo was taken in 2007 (Done.)
    Add to Yoshimi Ozaki caption that photo was taken earlier (Done.)
  7. Overall:
    Pass or Fail:


Comments
  • Just as a side-note: I did find it a little difficult to find much in-depth information about the championships which was outside of the organisers' associated websites. Many other running websites have either just the results or a mirror of the IAAF articles. The Chinese coverage is exceptionally limited – while it is covered on numerous Chinese news sites, they are all identical as they are government press releases (meaning there are hundreds of copies of the same three, plain articles). The comparatively low profile of the event and the fact that it was staged far away from the sport's traditional Western media bases seems to have limited in-depth coverage further. SFB 18:52, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your concern, and I am particularly distrustful of Chinese sources that are subject to government censorship. Yet, other biased nationalistic coverage included:

While you don't have to accept their focus on the slow runners from one nation, you can certainly uses such references to support the details of the event. I think that primary sources are fine for certain facts, but Wikipedia prefers secondary sources, so we should make some effort it use some of them. Racepacket (talk) 20:49, 18 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All these sources are now included in the article. I think the claims supported by the primary sources are generally not interpretative i.e. the basic organisational info is descriptive and the bare men's/women's race facts are similar to using a primary source for the plot of a work of fiction. If you think any citations step outside of this remit, then please do tell me! Do you have any other suggestions? Is there anything obvious still left to be desired in the article? SFB 18:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I changed runwashington to usatf.org url, since is was just a repost. Congratulations. Racepacket (talk) 00:06, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]