Talk:December 21

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December 21 Crew of Apollo 8 1620 – The Pilgrims aboard the Mayflower landed at present-day Plymouth, Massachusetts, to establish the Plymouth Colony. 1963 – An attempt by Greek Cypriot police to search certain Turkish Cypriot women in Nicosia escalated into island-wide violence, leading to 538 deaths and the displacement of nearly 27,000 people. 1968 – Apollo 8 launched from Kennedy Space Center in Florida on a trajectory to the Moon; its crew (pictured) became the first humans to visit another celestial body. 1988 – A bomb on board Pan Am Flight 103 detonated over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing 270 people. 2018 – Operatives of the British Special Boat Service boarded the container ship Grande Tema in the Thames Estuary to detain four stowaways who had threatened the crew. Sun Sheng (d. 956) Ali ibn Muhammad ibn al-Walid (d. 1215) Luang Por Dattajivo (b. 1940) Hu Jintao (b. 1942) More anniversaries: December 20 December 21 December 22 Archive By email List of days of the year About

it says Stalin was born on the XXI here.. but on his wiki page it says XVIII? what gives? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.76.166 (talk) 12:46, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where's the evidence for the Isle of Man claim? The women's suffrage entry claims that that honor goes to New Jersey, albeit very briefly... --dcsohl

1861 event: " ... Confederate envoys James Mason and John Slidell, arrested by the United States Navy aboard the British mail steamer Trent in order to prevent war between the United States and the United Kingdom." Is this what is meant? That Mason and Slidell were arrested in order to prevent war? Or is it just bad grammar? The sentence is very long; I would edit but do not know the history at all. --alpheus

I notice that an anonymous user working from IP address 172.189.110.188 has been making aggressive edits: removing many events because (s)he could not find that info in related articles. Most of the deleted entries seem plausible, and if there is no clear evidence that the info that someone has bothered to enter is false, I would give it the benefit of the doubt and retain it: maybe the other articles are deficient. Wikipedia is suffering from a consistent method for referring to sources. What do y'all think? Tom Peters 19:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any particular problem with removing events that aren't mentioned in any linked articles; if they weren't important enough to be listed in the article about the subject, why should they be here? Given Wikipedia's recent trouble with "facts" not backed up by verifiable sources, I'm not sure the benefit of the doubt should run in this direction. This is a more general question, however, that might be worth bringing up on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. Also, see the note on that talk page about "this day in history" websites - I wouldn't be surprised if those are the questionable source of many of the entries here. CDC (talk) 19:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

responding to RfC: i think the user is removing too much information. the stuff he removed should probably be kept, like the mayan calendar thing and the vancouver thing.--BUF4Life 19:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would be in favor of the questionable material being retained, since most of it seems likely to be true. This stuff needs a reference tag, not deletion KrazyCaley 05:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wholeheartedly agree.--BUF4Life 03:27, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]