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Q: Why was this article moved from Kiev to Kyiv?

A: In short: both are common names in use, but according to consensus in the last discussion the title Kyiv satisfies more of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, including WP:MODERNPLACENAME and WP:NAMECHANGES. This conclusion was supported by a rough consensus of two to one by participants in a very long debate on the article's discussion page, and the title was changed on 16 September 2020. You can read the full rationale and discussion in the talk archive: talk:Kyiv/Archive 7 § Requested move 28 August 2020.

Q: Can we move it back to Kiev?

A: A one-year moratorium on move requests for this article was in effect until 16 September 2021. Please take all discussion on naming the article to talk:Kyiv/naming and start a discussion there before opening a move request.

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Kyiv was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 21, 2005	Peer review	Reviewed
May 23, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
September 25, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed

Current status: Former good article nominee

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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

"#KyivnotKiev:#kyivfourrome Wikipedia changes spelling of Ukrainian capital". UNIAN. 2020-09-18. Retrieved 2020-09-19. The press service suggested that the moderators decided to "rename" the article because of the growing use of "Kyiv" in English-language sources.
Daryna Antoniuk (2020-09-18). "Kyiv not Kiev: Wikipedia changes spelling of Ukrainian capital". Kyiv Post. Retrieved 2020-09-19. Wikipedia couldn't change the mistake earlier because it just displayed the spelling that is most popular among prestigious international media outlets, the Ukrainian representative office of Wikipedia said.
Stephen Harrison (1 March 2022). "How the Russian Invasion of Ukraine Is Playing Out on English, Ukrainian, and Russian Wikipedia". Slate. Retrieved 1 March 2022. But before covering the latest developments, it's worth revisiting one of the most brutal edit wars in Wikipedia's history, which also says something about the Ukrainian spirit. The issue was whether the web encyclopedia should spell Ukraine's capital as "Kyiv" or "Kiev."

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Move logs: Kyiv
Kiev

Discussions:

RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Not moved, 9 July 2019, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Not moved, 26 October 2019, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Moved, 16 September 2020, discussion
- MRV, Endorsed, 28 September 2020, discussion

Older discussions:

RM, Kiev → Kyiv, No consensus, 30 July 2007, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, No consensus, 5 September 2007, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, No consensus, 11 September 2007, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, No consensus, 10 February 2008, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Not moved, 23 September 2008, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Not moved, 29 October 2009, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, No consensus, 18 November 2012, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Snow close, not moved, 7 November 2013, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Snow close, not moved, 3 October 2017, discussion
RM, Kiev → Kyiv, Snow close, not moved, 12 October 2018, discussion

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Naming archives (Talk:Kyiv/naming)

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