Ndiadiane Ndiaye is currently a World history good article nominee. Nominated by simongraham (talk) at 12:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria. Further reviews are welcome from any editor who has not contributed significantly to this article (or nominated it), and can be added to the review page, but the decision whether or not to list the article as a good article should be left to the first reviewer. Short description: Semi-legendary founder of the Jolof Empire |
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Nominator: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 12:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Freedom4U (talk · contribs) 23:52, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Will be reviewing this per discussion here. I am not finished yet so I would appreciate if you wait to act on my review. ~ F4U (talk • they/it) 06:51, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
(I used a random number generator)
Le Siin (capitale Diakhao) aurait compté 57 souverains, nommés Maad a Sinig ou Buur-Sinn, selon N. Diouf; les Gelwaar auraient commencé leur règne vers 1360.I'm not sure this verifies either of these claims. Alioune Sarr seems to be citing N. Diouf for the dating, not making the claims himself, and he also doesn't seem to say anything of "Ndiadiane Ndiaye's reign". Please correct me if I'm reading this wrong, my French is not very good.
Most, as reported by James Searing, claim that he was...in the article, it is not making it clear that (1) Searing does not make a claim about what myth is most common and the language as it stands is also WP:WEASEL; (2) purports to describe the person instead of the myth. I checked [7] which also backed up my concerns, which states that they are describing the myth and not the person.
The legend of Ndiadiane Ndiaye begins when...because the source provides a longer account of the legend that begins with his birth.
arabo-berber affiliationsdefinitely not the way to phrase this in English.
ruler of the Sine,Maad a Sinig Maysa Wali,— add a space after the comma and remove
thebefore Sine.
This match so enfuriated and ashamed Ndiaye— awkward phrasing
Ndiadiane has left only an oral trace, no written archives. This state of things only adds to his mythical stature and it is consequently hard to verify his existence, for, like many mythical founders of nations, Ndiadiane's historical existence is not attested in the written records.This is not mentioned in the section at all.
All or nearly all of the recorded versions share a few basic points...- The body of the article does not state this. In addition, the body does not mention him originating from Futa Tooro. Source 9 states he was born in Waalo and that he later
made his way downstream to Walo, the land of his birth.
Ndiadiane Ndiaye is a colloquial way of referring to senegal and more specifically the Ndiaye family, a typically Wolof name.– mentioned here.
@Freedom4U: Thank you for this thorough review. I have revisited the various references as well as the amendments you have suggested and, hopefully, addressed your concerns. Please tell me if there is anything else you would like me to look at. simongraham (talk) 09:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)