Talk:Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)

Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones Date Process Result September 17, 2004 Peer review Reviewed March 7, 2016 Good article nominee Not listed January 3, 2017 Good article nominee Listed A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 22, 2017. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" helped popularize Indian instrumentation in rock music? Current status: Good article

Consensus per this RfC closure and this RfM closure is to use "the Beatles" mid-sentence.

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Reviewer: Ritchie333 (talk · contribs) 10:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. The article looks pretty close to the GA criteria already and I see the "usual suspects" of Norman, Everett, MacDonald and Lewisohn in the sources, so this should be a pretty straightforward affair. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Should we mention the song is primarily Lennon's work (or at least that is what the majority of the sources seem to lean towards), or is that too controversial?
• not the first song to feature an Eastern-inspired sound in a rock composition, or even the first Beatles track ... the first Beatles track to do what? I can't think of another Beatles raga rock track before Rubber Soul, and I don't think the string quartet in "Yesterday" counts.

• it was Lennon who began writing the song in February 1965, while on vacation at St. Moritz in the Swiss Alps with his wife, Cynthia Lennon - this needs rewording, as at the moment it implies John began writing the song with Cynthia, which obviously wasn't the case.
• while filming the second Beatles movie, Help!, at Twickenham Film Studios, George Harrison first encountered the sitar, a prominent feature in the song - I don't recall any sitar on the song "Help!", this needs clarifying
• On 25 August 1965, during the Beatles' American tour, Harrison's friend David Crosby of the Byrds discussed in detail his thoughts about Indian classical music - (personal opinion) David Crosby has a tendency to let his ego run away and take credit for anything he possibly can, are we sure Roger McGuinn didn't have a hand in this?
• Can we mention the time signature here? (6/8 I think) Most Beatles songs before this (and, indeed, most rock 'n' roll) were straight 4/4 after all.

• Though the group completely reshaped "Norwegian Wood", it was far from the album version. I don't understand what this means
• Afterwards, the Beatles skipped the rhythm section, and decided to jump to the master take. What does this mean?

That's pretty much it as far as I can see, I'll put the review on hold pending resolution of the above issues. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Ritchie333 Since there are various accounts by John and Paul, I think it is best to just leave it at Lennon-McCartney, and explain the context in the body as is. I clarified the points made and included the time signature. The first point for "Recording" simply means a lot of changes were made to the song, but it did not yet resemble the final version.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The citation to Howlett's book you added needs a page number. I've made some other fixes and once that issue is resolved, we should be there. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ritchie333, done. That was a quick one!TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, it's a pass. Well done. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:23, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]