Talk:The First Fallen

The First Fallen was nominated as a Media and drama good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (October 13, 2024, reviewed version). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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GA Review

Unsuccessful. IntentionallyDense (talk) 20:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:The First Fallen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: GnocchiFan (talk · contribs) 07:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: IntentionallyDense (talk · contribs) 18:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this soon. IntentionallyDense (talk) 18:59, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	See comments below. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	See comments below. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2. Verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	See comments below. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2c. it contains no original research.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	See comments below. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
	7. Overall assessment.	On hold until nominator addresses issues I highlighted. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply] Closing this as a fail since the nominator seems to be inactive. IntentionallyDense (talk) 20:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there no movie poster available to be used here? I'm pretty sure they fall under fair use. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Plot summaries don't need to be cited. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just by reading through your sources I feel like you could have gotten a lot more out of them. For example [1] talks about the director trying to avoid common cliches and stereotypes with HIV and went into more details on the films development than what you provided. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The lead could be expanded and doesn't need refs. IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
who faced AIDS this wording is awkward. I think it would sound better if it just said "those who had AIDS". IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
when in fact those considered heterosexual are the ones most infected. Could this be fact checked with a better source? IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GnocchiFan: Just wanted to ping you to make sure that you're aware I've started the review here. IntentionallyDense (talk) 18:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.