Template:Did you know nominations/Madwoman (book)

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

• ... that Madwoman is Shara McCullum's fourth published work of poetry?

Created by Benjamin Fincher (talk). Self-nominated at 22:28, 16 February 2020 (UTC).

• I have read the article and feel that it is interesting. It surpasses the 1,500 characters requirement and was expanded at least five folds (13 February) within seven days before the nomination (16 February). The article has a neutral tone and is informative, and I do not see any copyright issues. There are few formatting that can be polished, however, and the hook may present more interesting information, such as being a book that has 55 poems in English and Jamaican languages. Maybe a little formatting and an ALT hook and this nomination will be ready to go.--Karto1 (talk) 14:06, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

@Karto1: Please be specific about what formatting you believe is in need of work. Also, please feel free to offer an ALT hook yourself,if you would like to do so. The nominator needs to be notified on their talk page. I just did so, as per instructions at the top of this template. — Maile (talk) 03:00, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

• Maile66, a couple of things--but first of all, thank you for the comment here; without out, this nomination might just go unnoticed. I think the Wikipedia party is over for User:Benjamin Fincher now that their grade is in. I think User:Grlucas, the instructor, might have an ongoing interest, and we need to think about their annual performance evaluation and merit raise. Anyway, I am not happy with the review by User:Karto1 at all--and given that they have less than 200 edits on Wikipedia and claim "advanced" in English, that's maybe not surprising (Karto, this was a "new" article, moved into article space on 13 February, so there is no relevance to "five fold" expansion).

  Because the article has issues; they can be fixed, but they will have to be before this gets to the front page. Citations are not clean/clear/complete, there is a lot of clunky writing, the difference between opinion and fact is blurred because things aren't properly attributed, etc. I think this is an important subject and I think there's an interesting hook here, either in the language or in the motherhood references, so give me a little while and I'll ping you, OK? Drmies (talk) 15:17, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

@Drmies: OK. Fix it, ping me, and I'll do a review for you. — Maile (talk) 15:30, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

• ALT1: "...in the collection Madwoman, Jamaican-American poet uses both English and Patwa, a creole she heard while growing up but never saw in writing? [1]
  • Maile66, this isn't great, and I'm not 100% pleased with the article, but I think it's good enough and for now it'll have to do. Thanks for looking at it. Drmies (talk) 15:59, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

• Review by Maile

QPQ

• No QPQ required - no previous nominiations

Eligibility

• Article moved from Draft space by Benjamin Fincher on February 13, 2020 at 2933 characters (472 words) "readable prose size"

Sourcing

• Every paragraph is sourced

Hook

• Striking original hook as not very hooky, in favor of ALT1 by Drmies
• ALT 1 hook is 140 characters, stated in the article, and sourced (as linked above) at the end of the sentence where stated

Images

• No image used in nomination

Copyvio check

• Earwig tool is working as of this review, and shows no areas of concern
• Labs dup detector run on specific source for the hook, and shows no areas of concern
• Visual spot check of the article seems to be OK.

Comment

• This article would work for Women's History Month, if a promoter wanted to do that.