Template talk:Did you know/Approved/week-2

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1983 Spanish floods

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Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations. Valenciano (talk) 17:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Valenciano article is new enough and long enough; I can verify the fact from the source cited; I am not familiar with Spanish sources but they look to be newspapers or similar so happy to AGF they are reliable; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources. Couple of queries on sourcing: I couldn't see in the source cited where it said 5 people were left missing and there is no source for the 150 billion pesata cost - Dumelow (talk) 16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, looks OK to me. The hook could potentially benefit from a little work to avoid repetition of "Spanish ... Spain ... Spanish" but I don't have a better suggestion at the moment - Dumelow (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mountain Landscape

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Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook is interesting, good to go. Sahaib (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Burrito Express

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Burrito Express in 2024
Burrito Express in 2024
  • ... that the founder of Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, styled himself as the "king of the flying burrito"?
Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: You are burying the lede. Why is Burrito Express called the "king of the flying burrito"? Because they used to run a mail order business that shipped frozen burritos across the U.S. That's your best and most interesting hook. But it's not here. Everything else checks out. Pass ALT0 as first choice, followed by ALT2. I do not support ALT3 as it breaches the bright line of contentiousness, and I don't support ALT1 because "threatened with closure" is too ambiguous and makes it seem like there's a negative component to it when it is just the nature of the business environment during COVID, not the quality of their food. Viriditas (talk) 04:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for reviewing. I'd appreciate it if you could be more specific as to what the shortcomings are so that I may remedy them. Are you asking me to contextualize ALT0 by mentioning the mail order business? I had thought about it, but was worried it would make the hook too long. If you feel this is necessary, however, please let me know and I will provide a modified hook. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm sorry—I totally misread your review. You're right, it slipped my mind to make a hook based on their mail order business. Please give me until tomorrow morning (PDT) and I'll have a new hook ready for you! Thanks again. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Viriditas: Thank you for your patience. Been busy recently! A couple more ALTs for your consideration.
ALT4: ... that Burrito Express' mail order business was so successful, its owner styled himself the "king of the flying burrito"? (Source: [4])
ALT5: ... that Burrito Express began shipping out its burritos by mail because of demand from former customers who had moved away from California? (Source: Ibid.)CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I like ALT4, ALT5, followed by ALT0 and ALT2. I will let the prepper decide. Viriditas (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24 and Viriditas: ALT4's the best one, but the source doesn't really say that the style was because of the company's success. In fact, it doesn't even say that the company's successful, although its gross revenue is high. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: I agree with your assessment. Let's go with ALT5, or combine ALT5 and ALT4 as I originally suggested in my review, without the "so successful" bit. In other words: " ... that Burrito Express began shipping burritos by mail due to demand from former customers who had moved, leading the owner to describe himself as the "king of the flying burrito"? Viriditas (talk) 08:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Issue resolved below, 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC) I don't think the image can be freely licensed by the photographer since the business would own the copyright to the sign. No objections to promoting without an image, Rjjiii (talk) 17:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen DYKs with images that include business signs and logos (such as this, this, and this one). Is it because the image focuses exclusively on the sign? There is another image I added to the article a couple of days ago with the sign off to the side in a wider shot of the restaurant front patio. Would that be acceptable for the DYK? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: the copyright rules in the United States are arbitrarily different for a building that you can go inside of and a free-standing sculpture or sign. Give me a moment, and I'll find some links, Rjjiii (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: Here are some links: on Commons, FoP on Commons, the legal exceptions for buildings, and an explanation about buildings. A photograph that focuses mostly on the building will not have the same issue because you can go inside of the building. The exceptions to copyright law for buildings in public spaces don't apply to 2D signs or to 3D sculptures unless they are integrated into the design of the building. Rjjiii (talk) 20:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. So I'm still confused. According to Commons, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs" are unacceptable as they are almost always copyright protected. Would the Burrito Express sign qualify as such a sign? The information it imparts appears to be generic and, at least to me, not detailed at all. I appreciate your answers and patience. At any rate, I'm happy as long as the DYK runs, with or without photo, but just want clarification for the future. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CurryTime7-24: you might get a more informed answer at Commons, but I imagine the sign's doodle is the kind of "graphic image" that would clearly give it copyright protection. In the US, I think the legal bar is sufficiently creative, which is fairly low. A larger-scale photo like the one in the article where the doodle is just a minor bit is likely fine (De_minimis#Copyright). Rjjiii (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjjiii: Can we use this image instead? Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: yes, I don't see an issue with that one, Rjjiii (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjjiii: Thank you, I've replaced it with the approval of the legendary CurryTime7-24.[5] Can we get your tickmark going forward? Viriditas (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas: yes, and concern struck above, Rjjiii (talk) 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate

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Created by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 30 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting painting, covered well and detailed on fine sources, subscription sources accepted AGF. I am less happy with the hook. My understanding - which of course may be wrong - is not that they found it too modern, but that they thought those who had bought it earlier should have found it too modern, which is a completely different thing. I would prefer to get a bit more info in the hook about the subject than "a 1914 painting" - painter, style, subject, whatever. The title alone didn't prepare me for the beautiful thing I saw, and the hook would not have made me look, - it was your name that hooked me ;) - If you still want that hook, I'll approve it, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: This controversy is covered by the NYT,[6] so I won't go into it too much here other than to say that this subject, American Impressionist Childe Hassam (1859–1935), was called "conservative to the core" by New Yorker art critic Peter Schjeldahl in 2004, and that is the accepted opinion by art historians. To address this slightly further, Hassam embraced an older, antiquated kind of modernism dating to about the 1870s, which represented the art of the generation before him. Ironically by the time the American art world accepted Hassam as status quo, perhaps by the time of the Armory Show of 1913 or thereabouts, the time of the American Impressionists had come and gone. Hassam was on record expressing his extreme displeasure at the ascendancy of the new Cubism, so his conservativsm as an artist was well known. I won't go into Hassam's social conservatism, as there is quite a bit written on that subject, similar to that of Renoir, and it's somewhat separate from his conservative approach to art. The quirky nature of the hook is centered around a 110-year-old painting by an artist who vocally objected to the trajectory of modern art in 1913 and yet was considered "too modern" by Valparaiso University in 2024 based on a specious legal argument that hinges on the definition and interpretation of "conservative" art, a definition that is disputed by art historians and legal experts. I should like to add one final thing: while writing a series of articles about this topic, I found that the legal argument made by Valparaiso University doesn't hold up based on the history of art. It turns out that the techniques and philosophy found in the Hudson River School, attributed to its founder Thomas Cole, which forms the underlying basis of Valparaiso's argument that Hassam's work is too modern to be included in the university collection, are in fact, almost identical to the working technique and philosophy of Childe Hassam. I laughed out loud when I realized this (and I think I woke up my neighbors at 2 AM) because it means Valparaiso's case should never have been approved by the courts. It turns out that Hassam used the same technique that Cole talks about in the 1840s and 1850s. This involves "creating compositions of both representational and imaginative landscapes, where the artist creates a fusion of what is both in the natural world and in the mind on the canvas". Hassam famously did this throughout his career, most notably in the painting Point Lobos, Carmel (1914) to such an extent, that the artist he was working with, Francis McComas (1874-1938), had a fit and complained to his wife about Hassam's conservative, anti-modernist approach, and the incident made its way into the history books. To summarize: I think it's possible you missed the point I was making. With that said, I am open to creating new hooks as always. Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, to respond to the comment in your edit history, no, it's not supposed to be inside baseball, and if it comes off that way, it definitely needs a new hook. I will present others to choose from, but it doesn't look like you'll be around. I can make a request on DYK to have others look. Viriditas (talk) 08:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annie Huggett

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  • ... that as a teenager in the 1900s, Annie Huggett organised suffragette meetings at her local pub?
  • Source: "Annie Huggett was born Annie Clara French in Halstead, Essex, in 1892 ... Though Annie was never arrested, she was very much part of the suffragette movement, and organised meetings for the cause in the former George Inn in Barking Broadway – known then as the Three Lamps – when she was just 18." from: Hedges-Stocks, Zoah (21 September 2016). "Post Memories: Women's centre named after Barking suffragette Annie Huggett". Barking and Dagenham Post. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
  • ALT1: ... that at 103 years old, Annie Huggett was the oldest surviving suffragette at the time of her 1996 death? Source: "Annie was proud to be both the country’s oldest surviving suffragette and the longest card-carrying member of the Labour Party. ,,, The Red Flag was sung at Annie’s funeral in 1996 when she was laid to rest in Rippleside Cemetery." from the same source
  • ALT2: ... that because of her republican beliefs, Annie Huggett's family hid from her the telegram sent by Elizabeth II to mark a British person's 100th birthday? Source: "He last saw Annie in May 1992 on her 100th birthday and remembers two cards being pride of place on her mantelpiece – one was from the Labour Party, the other was from Barking Town FC ... He said both were very important to her – but there was one birthday message that certainly wasn’t on display: her message from the Queen. When Gerry asked Annie’s daughter about its whereabouts he was told that they had hidden it for fear of offending her as she was a lifelong and staunch republican." from the same source
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johnny Fripp
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 899 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

David Hilchen

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Created by Yakikaki (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 143 past nominations.

Yakikaki (talk) 15:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life and work, on few but fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the interesting short hook! I have a few wishes for the article: 1) give him an infobox, or it looks as if it was an article about a coat of arms, 2) avoid "would" - everything is now past, 3) bring the refs above the cited sources - no idea why German and others have it differently, but in English, that's normal, 4) formal the one source that's not yet among Cited sources like the others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...though upon reflection, in this case you're right, an infobox makes the coat of arms look less awkward. Added. Thanks again Gerda! Yakikaki (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur France

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  • ... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?
  • Source: ref 5 (url:https://lucas.leeds.ac.uk/article/the-leeds-west-indian-carnival-is-fifty) 'The Carnival in Leeds reached its fiftieth consecutive performance in August 2017, proudly maintaining its original title: The Leeds West Indian Carnival (LWIC). It was the first Caribbean-style street carnival in Europe' .. 'Nevis-born Arthur France ... pulled together the committee that created the early carnivals in Leeds'
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is sourced with inline citations. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no crucial text similarities commenting "violation unlikely". Both hooks are well-formatted and interesting.Their length is within limit. They are accurate with reference given inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 10:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Capaldi

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Capaldi at the 2019 GalaxyCon Richmond
Capaldi at the 2019 GalaxyCon Richmond
Improved to Good Article status by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Light Vessel 93

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Light Vessel 93
Light Vessel 93
  • ... that Light Vessel 93 (pictured) was converted into a photography studio?
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 900 past nominations.

Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Dumelow, nice work on this article. Do you still want to run this as a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, because that nomination has already been reviewed? Epicgenius (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Epicgenius, I am happy for them to run separately. Was just putting the option out there as there is usually a backlog of approved hooks - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All right, then. My previous approval is unchanged. Epicgenius (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)

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Created by Tokisaki Kurumi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 09:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hook is interesting and true,

I made a small copy edit but beyond that the content is fine, earwig has less then 10% overlap. QPQ not need congrats on your first DYK! Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant: Thanks! But it seems the DYK template not working well? ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 18:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick J. Ryan (chaplain)

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Chaplain Ryan, c. 1937
Chaplain Ryan, c. 1937
Improved to Good Article status by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalkContribs 00:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article promoted to GA on 3 November; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, stated in article and supported by citations (I note one source says "almost 10,000" and one says "more than 10,000" so I think you are OK just stating 10,000); a QPQ has been carried out; my only query is on the image: do you have confirmation that it is a work of a US military person, I couldn't see anything in the source? It is likely to be the case but we should confirm - Dumelow (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Howdy Dumelow, the photographer is a historical researcher and I can't imagine where else it would be from other than an official photo; however you're right, it's not 100%, and I don't have the time to try to confirm it this week - probably best to do it without the photo. ~Darth StabroTalkContribs 14:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Darth Stabro, no worries. Happy to approve to run without image - Dumelow (talk) 14:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Codex Monacensis (X 033)

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  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Stephen Walch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Stephen Walch (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Stephen: this article, promoted to GA on November 1, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio or close paraphrase. Hook sourced, short enough, and interesting. QPQ does not need to be done. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Gregory, Caspar René (1900). Textkritik des Neuen Testaments. Vol. 1. Leipzig: J.C. Hinrichs. pp. 82–83.

Apricot dress of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy

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Kennedy in her apricot dress March 1962
Kennedy in her apricot dress March 1962
  • Reviewed: Viriamo
  • Comment: Would appreciate comments from Philafrenzy if possible
Created by Whispyhistory (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 202 past nominations.

Whispyhistory (talk) 18:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting dress, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the hook, but suggest to drop "Bouvier" - she is better known as Jackie Kennedy - and to link zibeline as in the article. - The image is licensed and serves well as illustration of why this colour. For formality, you still have to add (pictured) to the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oscar Goodman (basketball)

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Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 366 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Amer Ghalib

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Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

Sahaib (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 12:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review comments:

  • I don't see the support for the statement "A member of the Democratic Party, he worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States." in the newsweek reference. It should be referenced to the fox news website. I can't read the NY Times reference but AGF.
  • I don't see the support for the statement "Ghalib acknowledged their disagreements on key issues but that he believed that Trump would end the Israel–Hamas war." in the two references given
  • Earwig copyvio detector shows 13.0% - violation unlikely
  • @Sahaib: Overall very good. Just minor sourcing issues listed above. Please fix and I will approve. Dwkaminski (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dwkaminski: sorry about the sources, a lot were added by another user (see history). The Newsweek source states that he was a member of the Democratic Party whilst the New York Times sources the rest. The Newsweek sources states "acknowledging some disagreements with the former president" and in the New York Times it states that "President Biden’s support of Israel and a belief that Mr. Trump will end the conflict in the Middle East." You can view the source in its archived form. Sahaib (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sahaib: All good. approved! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cathedral Cemetery

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  • Source: It was founded in 1849 by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia and is the first catholic cemetery founded in Philadelphia. (guidetophilly.com)
Created by Dwkaminski (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

Dwkaminski (talk) 19:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article exceeds the 1,500-character minimum of readable prose. The information is succinct and informative, written in a neutral tone, with no apparent bias or promotional language. While the article is sourced adequately, it could benefit from a few more inline citations in the "Notable burials" section (Please note that all of the individuals listed can be verified via their respective Wikipedia pages, but citations linking to reliable secondary sources would strengthen the section). I checked for potential plagiarism or close paraphrasing using online tools, and the content seems original. I noticed the DYK submission currently lacks an image, the free image in the article would enhance the article's visual appeal and could engage readers more effectively. A nice read, all three hooks are valid and more or less interesting. For me it's good to go. el.ziade (talkallam) 13:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Radio City Music Hall of the Air

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Created by 4meter4 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 93 past nominations.

4meter4 (talk) 23:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • New article, plenty long, sourced throughout including hook fact, which is interesting enough. AGF as many sources are offline or paywalled. Appears to be written neutrally. Copyvio is "unlikely". QPQ is provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Denizard

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Marie Denizard's publicity image from 1913 French presidential election.
Marie Denizard's publicity image from 1913 French presidential election.
  • ... that Marie Denizard (pictured) was the first woman to stand as a candidate in a French presidential election even though French women did not achieve suffrage until 1944?
  • Reviewed:
Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

MumphingSquirrel (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

The article is quite long and very well written so I can excuse the fact that it is not quite as fresh as it should be. I am more concerned about the fact that I can find almost nothing about this woman via Google, Google Books, or Google Scholar that was not published after the French Wikipedia's article about her. It seems so unlikely that the first woman to stand as a candidate for president of France should be so little known. I was able to find just enough to ascertain that she did indeed exist, but I am still a bit uneasy. MumphingSquirrel, do you have access to the 1910s sources cited in the article? Surtsicna (talk) 19:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Surtsicna thanks for the prompts. I have now added url links to the 1910 docs which are accessible online. Hope this helps confirm her candidacy - she really has been one of the notable women forgotten by history until recently MumphingSquirrel (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful. Thanks. It is quite astonishing that she was so thoroughly forgotten. Perhaps DYK can help change that! Surtsicna (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gail Damerow

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Created by Silver seren (talk) and Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 133 past nominations.

SilverserenC 01:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. Overall the article has no copyright problems and both the hooks are mentioned in the article. But the problem is related to how the hooks are mentioned in the article. As I see when it comes to ALT1, it mentions that ' that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet?. However in the article where the hook ('Awards and Honors') is mentioned, it just states 'described by The New York Times as the authoritative book on ice cream'. Hope you can fix this issue by adding more of the ALT1's fact here. The first hook is fine. So just fix the stated issue and after that I can give green light for your article for DYK. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Toadboy123, do you mean the part of the hook on why the book was created? Because that's in the beginning of the Career section, with the source I gave above. SilverserenC 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Silver seren I suggest that you mention the hook also in the 'Awards and Honors' section so that readers can easily notice it when they read the article. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. SilverserenC 22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In that case, then the article is all good to go then. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fukushima nuclear accident

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The Town of Namie (population 21,000) was evacuated as a result of the accident.
The Town of Namie (population 21,000) was evacuated as a result of the accident.
  • ... that residents evacuated in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident were exposed to so little radiation that radiation-induced health effects are likely to be below detectable levels?
  • Source: "Outside the geographical areas most affected by radiation, even in locations within Fuku-

shima prefecture, the predicted risks remain low and no observable increases in cancer

above natural variation in baseline rates are anticipated" page 8: https://iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/78218/9789241505130_eng.pdf;jsessionid=5D2A9C6FCDE7BA3C9686CED940B05E3A?sequence=1
Improved to Good Article status by Czarking0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Czarking0 (talk) 20:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Czarking0: I'll start by addressing WP:DYKNEW. This article last appeared at In the news on 12 April 2011, and the on this day on 11 March 2023. This was over one year ago, so it can go on the main page again.
The article recently became a good article so it is eligible for DYK. Earwig's is not working so i'll assume good faith when it comes to copyvios. QPQ not needed.
I'll review ALT0 (I think it is the most interesting). The hook matches the article.
I'm worried about the source for this hook because it is a preliminary report, which uses predictions of health effects rather than observations. It also doesn't say about the evacuations and also says In the highest dose location ... For leukaemia, the lifetime risks are predicted to increase by up to around 7% over baseline cancer rates in males exposed as infants However, a 2020 source says that No adverse health effects among Fukushima residents have been documented that are directly attributable to radiation exposure from the FDNPS accident. So I'll approve, with caution. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jiangwan Racecourse

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Jiangwan Racecourse
Jiangwan Racecourse
  • ... that the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured) hosted horse races, a golf club, and prisoners of war?
  • Source: Sports facilities: Chen Yangyang (陈洋阳) (5 February 2016). 老上海体育建筑遗存:江湾跑马厅民国时期面貌考 参考网 [Remains of Old Shanghai Sports Buildings: A Study of the Appearance of the Jiangwan Racecourse during the Republic of China Period]. Sports Research (in Chinese). 4. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 3 November 2024 – via Back Issue Magazine Reading Platform and Reference Network.;
POWs: "China Marks Time Till Wu Succeeds or Fails". The China Weekly Review. Shanghai. 1 November 1924. pp. 290–291. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 702 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Chris Woodrich, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 3 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am not familiar with all of the sources (particularly the none-English ones) but happy to AGF that they are all reliable; image looks to be PD (as was in public domain at URAA date); hooks facts are mentioned in the article and check out to source cited, my preference is probably for ALT0 as the connection between the aircraft landing and dismantling the railway is not obvious to the reader; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraprasing in a spotcheck and Earwig doesn't flag up any issues. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

St John the Evangelist Church, Islington

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Front of St John's Church, Islington
Front of St John's Church, Islington
  • Source: Historic England. "Islington – St John the Evangelist". Taking Stock. Quote: "Pugin castigated the Romanesque Revival building as ‘the most original combination of modern deformity that has been executed for some time past’. In response, the design was defended by Joseph Hansom in The Builder."
  • Joseph Hansom. 1 April 1843. "The Present State of Ecclesiastical Architecture in England". The Builder Volume 1, page 98. Quote: "This church, so far from exhibiting the adoption of true Catholic principles, which we have had so much pleasure in describing at Masbro’, is certainly the most original combination of modern deformity that has been erected for some time past for the sacred purpose of a Catholic church," and, "And now, we tell our readers that this new church of Islington, which Mr. Scoles has built, and which Mr. Pugin insists he ought not to have built, and which he has done no little damage to by his strictures, depriving it of the contribution of many whose purses yield more to dictation in such matters than to reason or to judgment; this church of Mr. Scoles is withal a fine and noble church."
  • Denis Evinson, Catholic Churches of London, Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 1998, page 140. Quote: "Scoles's neo-Norman design was severely castigated by Pugin in The Dublin review, in which he called for a rebuilding of Islington's mediaeval Gothic church. Joseph Hansom, however, powerfully defended Scoles's church in the pages of The Builder, of which he was then editor, pointing out that Catholicism had other 'beautiful forms, styles and adaptations in store for us."
Created by Cardofk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Cardofk (talk) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Cardofk, nice work on this article. Review follows: article created 3 November and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources (though I usually avoid British Listed Buildings as it is a mirror of the Historic England listing; I didn't pick up on any paraphrasing issues; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is freely licensed; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, very good point, thanks for spotting it, I really should have linked to the Reformation at the beginning. Will do. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Robertson

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Moved to mainspace by SafariScribe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 20:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Robertson entertains her doctors". UCT News. 4 May 2010. Retrieved 3 November 2024.

Abu Sulayman Da'ud

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  • Source: "Abu Sulayman worked for the king for a while, even treating his son Baldwin's leprosy..." Zimo p. 158 "He also engaged Abul’Khair, Abu Sulayman’s brother, to teach the boy to ride ... with his knees alone." Hamilton p. 28
  • ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
  • ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Czarodziejski okręt
  • Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.
Created by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 185 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: New article with 2380 characters, well-sourced with inline citations. I reviewed all cited sources for verification; all sources are accessible. No issues with copyvio or tone. All hooks are interesting, well-researched, and properly cited. Thank you for writing about Abu Sulayman, an exceptional figure whose life bridged cultural and religious divides. As an Arab Christian, I appreciate how this article highlights the contributions of Eastern Christians, and Arabs in general in medicine and science. el.ziade (talkallam) 10:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Big Motor

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Created by FossilDS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

FossilDS (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Interesting, copyvio free, long enough, recently created, reliable source. Both are passable but the first is far more interesting (and the second is cited into a different source in text).
However, one issue. I am worried this article is slightly NPOV, in that it has almost no content except the controversies. While their scandals are a key part of the notability I have concerns with running on the front page an article that is only scandal when they do seem to have been otherwise notable, with little historical context or other information on their activities. For comparison, the Japanese article looks more balanced on this front. I don't think anything has to be removed, but maybe add more that isn't scandal? I have no issues otherwise. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PARAKANYAA:, thank you for the review! I do also agree that the article leans a bit too heavily on the controversies, but almost all Japanese-language sources and all English-languages sources basically only talk about the scandals, so it was a bit difficult finding stuff unrelated to it. I've reorganized the article a bit and added more info from the Japanese article, I hope it's at least somewhat sufficient. I'm also happy with nominating the first DYK instead of ALT1.FossilDS (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new changes address my issue. Good to go! PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kang Ju-hyeok

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Kang Ju-hyeok
Kang Ju-hyeok
  • ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the youngest player to debut in FC Seoul history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old?
Created by Explicit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

plicit 13:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Carlyle Hotel

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The Carlyle Hotel
The Carlyle Hotel
5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 683 past nominations.

Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Certainly updated recently, with a 114k-character expansion, so new enough, and long enough. It is well-sourced and not too closely paraphrased. The hooks are short and interesting. I would go for ALT1, for me it's the most interesting/surprising, but I'm happy with all of them (and who's knows what other hooks are in store). And QPQ has been done. If there is a problem, I cannot find it. Thank you. Cardofk (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael O'Kane

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Moved to mainspace by Ergo Sum (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 107 past nominations.

Ergo Sum 03:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Anthony F. Ciampi

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Anthony F. Ciampi
Anthony F. Ciampi
Improved to Good Article status by Ergo Sum (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 108 past nominations.

Ergo Sum 17:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Either hook works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Standard-winged nightjar

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Standard-winged nightjar
Standard-winged nightjar
  • ... that during breeding season, the male standard-winged nightjar (pictured) grows a wing ornament over twice the length of its body?
Improved to Good Article status by Reconrabbit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Reconrabbit 22:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is fine in every respect (long enough, well-written and recently enough promoted to GA), and the hook is good, but it is not backed up by the wording in the article. In the article it simply says that the standards are "much longer" than the body, now "twice the length". There should also be an inline citation supporting the claim directly after the sentence in which it is made. It's a small fix, after which the article should be ready for DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I believe that the length given of a broad secondary flight feather[4] on each wing elongated to up to 53.5 centimetres makes sense to describe as "twice the length of its body" since earlier the bird's length is given as this medium-sized (20–23 centimetres (7.9–9.1 in) long) nightjar and 53.5÷2=26.75 > 23 cm. Though since it's "up to" I could see justifying adding "that can be" after "wing ornament" in the hook. Additionally the quote in the source describes the bird's body as "21-22 cm" and immediately after gives a minimum length of 45 cm with the standards. I could change it to say directly in the article "over twice the length" instead of just "much longer" though. Reconrabbit 00:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I wasn't arguing that the facts were not in the article or not supported by the inline citations. DYK used to have a rule, though, which stated "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." However I see now that the rules have changed and become more flexible, and I can therefore happily drop this minor objection and give the green light to the article. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yoon Do-young

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Yoon Do-young
Yoon Do-young
Created by Explicit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

plicit 12:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to. Both articles new enough, long enough. Hook fact is cited in the flag article. AGF on Korean sources. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hikari Kodama

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  • ... that because she went to a high school with strict rules, Hikari Kodama would wear wigs while making public performances? Source: [8] ("はい。中学3年生の冬に初めてオーディションを受けて、そこから3年ほど事務所に所属しました。でも、校則が厳しい高校に通っていたので、表立った芸能活動ができなかったんですよ。なので、その頃はカツラを被ったりしながらライブをしてました(笑)。先生たちに気付かれないように。")
Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Great work! -Bogger (talk) 14:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Susan Finnegan

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  • ... that Susan Finnegan was the first female head of the arachnids section at the Natural History Museum, London, but had to resign her job in order to marry?
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 10:17, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The sources say she left on marrying but not that that was the policy. You might want to consider citing this in reference to the marriage ban policy in British museums.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 22:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

History of education in Wales (1870–1939)

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  • Source: *Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (page 99)
  • James, Deborah (November 2001). "'Teaching girls': intermediate schools and career opportunities for girls in the East Glamorgan valleys of Wales, 1896—1914". History of Education. 30 (6): 513–526. doi:10.1080/00467600110072114. ISSN 0046-760X. (pages 519–520)
  • Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (pages 41, 47, 49)
  • ALT1: ... that 38% of Welsh university students in 1900 were woman? Source: Jenkins, Beth (2016). "Women's professional employment in Wales 1880-1939" (PDF). Cardiff University. (page 48)
  • ALT2: ... that the songs taught to Welsh Schoolchildren in the late 19th century included Let English boys their duty do and Hurrah for England? Source: Johnes, Martin (2024). Welsh Not: Elementary Education and the Anglicisation of Nineteenth-Century Wales (PDF). University of Wales Press. ISBN 9781837721818. (pages 352–354)
  • ALT3: ... that 1930s Welsh schoolchildren were more likely to go to secondary school than their counterparts in England? Source: Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (pages 128–129)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eurovision Song Contest 2000
Improved to Good Article status by Llewee (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Llewee (talk) 23:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Nice work on this Llewee! Brought to GA on November 5, obviously long enough, very well-written, neutral, decorated with correctly-licensed images. I feel strongly that ALT1 is the most interesting fact here. ALT0 makes me wonder who felt that way—educators? Women? ALT2 doesn't do much for me, and ALT3 is alright. Great work! Zanahary 17:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Paora

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Paora having a snack
Paora having a snack
  • ... that following public backlash over Paora the kiwi (pictured) being mistreated, Zoo Miami stated, "We have offended the nation of New Zealand"?
Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hook interesting, article new and long enough with adequate referencing. Hook fact cited inline and verified in the relevant source. QPQ is done. Earwig gives a fairly high number but that is due to attributed quotes which are relevant to the article. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Panamitsu, have you thought of asking Zoo Miami whether they'd like to donate a free photo to Wikipedia? Maybe as part of their ongoing redemption? I do remember that their publicity officer was rather onto it. And on a different front, I encouraged User:Paora to review this article as that seemed rather appropriate. But obviously, he's missed the boat. Schwede66 07:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Schwede66: Haha yes it certainly would've been funny if Paora reviewed this nomination. As for the image, I haven't thought of that, although it sounds like a good idea. I prefer not to ask organisations for images so I won't be doing it myself. You are welcome to do it if you wish, although I do realise that you will be more focussed on other projects that are more meaningful to you. ―Panamitsu (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sure, no problems. I've managed to track down an email address for the zoo's communications director, Ron Magill. I've flicked him an email. Let's see what comes back. Can I suggest that prep promoters sit tight for a few days to see whether the zoo would like to make a photo available? Panamitsu, maybe you'd enjoy giving Magill's bio a bit of a tidy up – it could certainly do with one. Schwede66 08:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Catholic Spirit

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5x expanded by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

~Darth StabroTalkContribs 20:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Eurovision Song Contest 1975

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Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: 4 interesting hooks. (AGF for ALT1) -Bogger (talk) 17:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tin mining in Indonesia

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Former tin mining pit in Belitung
Former tin mining pit in Belitung
Moved to mainspace by Juxlos (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 233 past nominations.

Juxlos (talk) 04:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 18:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreement between Armenia and Azerbaijan respecting the District of Zanghezour

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Ruins of the Armenian quarter of Shusha after its destruction by the Azerbaijani army in March 1920.
Ruins of the Armenian quarter of Shusha after its destruction by the Azerbaijani army in March 1920.
  • Source: Saparov, Arsène (2014). From conflict to autonomy in the Caucasus: the Soviet Union and the making of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno Karabakh. Routledge.
  • Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Olympian (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Olympian loquere 00:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not required. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 18:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Thriley and Olympian: This is a really interesting subject. I have several concerns for WP:DYKCOMPLETE and WP:NPOV before promotion:
      • Until World War I, the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire controlled the Caucasus, and both collapsed during the war. At least some mention of this would help readers unfamiliar with the region understand the situation better. Right now, I only see this hinted at with "attaining independence from Russia".
      • Regarding "In 1920, the region [Zangezur] was invaded by units of the Red Army" why is this in the background, when it discusses events events after the agreement is signed?
      • Regarding "In March 1920, the local Armenians revolted with the support of Armenia" the same as above, why include this in the background section?
      • Saparov (2014) mentions militias in Nagorno-Karabakh throughout this conflict, I don't see these mentioned in the Wikipedia article. So when it says "the local Armenians", is this referring a widespread uprising or an ongoing military conflict with those militia groups?
      • The article quotes a historian saying the agreement was "basically a declaration of intent". Can this article expand on that? What is a declaration of intent? Do historians find evidence that either side intended to build any kind of long-term diplomatic relationship from this? The "Aftermath" section seems to imply the opposite.
      • Does the Red Army invasion of Azerbaijan render this agreement moot? It occurs just weeks after the final line of the "Aftermath" section.
    • Rjjiii (talk) 01:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]