Template talk:Did you know/Approved/week-2

This page transcludes a subset of the nominations found on the page of all the approved nominations for the "Did you know" section of the Main Page. It only transcludes the nominations filed under dates of the third-most recent week. The page is intended to allow editors to easily review recent nominations that may not be displaying correctly on the complete page of approved nominations if that page's contents are causing the page to hit the post-expand include size limit.

• ... that Peel's Cut was dug by the grandfather of British prime minister Robert Peel?

• ALT1: ... that the Peel's Cut watercourse in Staffordshire, England, lasted more than 100 years longer than the mill it was excavated to power? Source: As above for date of creation and filling, plus: "Bond End Mill last made cotton in 1849." from: Brook, Fred (1977). The Industrial Archaeology of the British Isles. Batsford. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7134-0924-6.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edmonds (brand)

Dumelow (talk) 17:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I updated the caption in the article to clarify the direction. You need to add the reference to the end of Alt1's sentance. I prefer Alt1 to Alt0. Used Earwig with no issues. Otherwise looked good! dm (talk) 01:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi dm, sorry I missed this while I was away. I have duplicated the ref to the sentence in the article talking about the closure of the mill for ALT1 - Dumelow (talk) 16:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dumelow - thanks for updating. I've cleared all the objections - looks like you're good to go. dm (talk) 05:11, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) has a protruding animal ear?

• ALT1: ... that the God of Amiens (head pictured) seems to have lost his serpent? Source: Mahéo, Noël (1990). "136. Statuette d'une divinité à l'oreille de cervidé". In Viéville, Dominic (ed.). Les collections archéologiques du musée de Picardie. Vol. 1. Amiens: Trois Cailloux. p. 236. ISBN 978-2-402-42576-6.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shunten
• Comment: ALT1 is fun, but you might rightly reject it since it relies on a reconstruction, put forth by Lerat, of the statuette as once holding a serpent and grapes. To my knowledge nobody has rejected this reconstruction (Mahéo and Deonna explicitly concur) but it is just a reconstruction.

Tenpop421 (talk) 23:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• date, length, hook, close paraphrase check, qpq checks out. Image free on Commons. ALT1 would require a bit of rewording, something on the lines of "seems to have lost" etc. --Soman (talk) 22:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edited ALT1 to reflect this. Thanks! Tenpop421 (talk) 23:30, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that novelist Karen Tei Yamashita realized the structure of her novel, I Hotel, by cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes, each representing a year in the book?

• • Reviewed:

Phibeatrice (talk) 01:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi @Phibeatrice: This article, created on 29 October, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral, and presentable. Earwig picked up no copyvio and I didn't see any close paraphrase. QPQ does not need to be done. The hook, which I trimmed a little bit going in, is interesting and cited. The hook might need a little more editing (the phrase "cutting, folding, and writing on ten cardboard cubes" is a little unwieldy, but I'm not sure how to improve it) but, as it is, I think the article is good to go. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that sports broadcaster Carrlyn Bathe started her career as a member of the Los Angeles Kings Ice Crew?

• ALT1: ... that Carrlyn Bathe met her husband after he sent her gear from his clothing brand? Source: [2]
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jopie Roosenburg-Goudriaan

Kimikel (talk) 04:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Will be claiming this for review and hope to get to it soon. Among the two hooks, ALT1 is probably the more unusual or interesting once since it's less reliant on NHL knowledge (and thus specialist knowledge), although I would suggest also putting "sports broadcaster" before her name. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been completed. Both hooks are cited inline and verified (I am accepting the use of Facebook and Twitter as the FB link is the official Kings page and the Twitter link is her own, so meets the guidelines at WP:SPS). As mentioned above, the second hook is the better hook as it's less reliant on familiarity with the NHL or ice hockey. Good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Miracle in Motown was the first of three successful Hail Mary passes in a span of 13 months thrown by Aaron Rodgers?

• Reviewed: Derrick Harden

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall, hook and article meet all criteria for DYK, no reason not to approve. JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that in St Francis of Assisi Church, Notting Hill, John Francis Bentley was baptised in the same font that he himself designed?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rust Red Hills

Cardofk (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks great! Very fun hook. Great article, thank you for writing it! ~Darth Stabro^{Talk/Contribs} 21:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a new soccer team in Boise, Idaho, plans to play at a converted horse racing track? Source: Idaho Press
  • Reviewed: History of Key West

SounderBruce 22:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article passes for newness and length (although on the shorter side, it passes the 1500 bytes test). Article is sourced and neutral throughout and plagiarism-free. Hook is interesting and cited (reviewing from Europe so blocked from viewing the source within this nomination, but can verify the details from other sources within the article). QPQ done. This one is good to go! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 15:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that there was limited appreciation for Piri Reis' cartography during his own life?
  • Source: Soucek, Svat (2013). "His uniqueness among cartographers and hydrographers of the Renaissance". Cartes & Géomatique. No. 216. pp. 135–144. Arrested by the Ottoman governor of Egypt, Piri Reis was executed in 1553 in compliance with an order issued from the imperial headquarters. The sultan probably never recalled – if in fact he ever noticed it – that the aged mariner had at the time of his enthronement dedicated a book called Kitabı Bahriye to him, and that still earlier he had made a strange map whose mutilated remains lay forgotten in the library of Topkapı Palace. [...] Piri Reis and his work occupy a special place in the framework of the exhibition "L'Age d'or des cartes marines: Quand l'Europe découvrait le monde". They show that although the Ottoman Empire had the potential to participate in the discoveries, its ruling elite spurned the attempt to blaze a trail in this direction made by a representative of a marginal group whose other members too ran into dead ends. [...] Piri Reis ran into a dead end as a cartographer [...]
  • ALT1: ... that Piri Reis transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
    • Source: Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. p. 6. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. Archived from the original on 2022-11-21. Piri assisted in transporting the Muslim and Jewish population in Granada from Spain to North Africa during the time of the reconquista.
  • ALT2: ... that Piri Reis advocated for and took part in Suleiman the Magnificent's 1522 Siege of Rhodes?
    • Source: Soucek, Svatopluk (2004). "Navals Aspects of the Ottoman Conquests of Rhodes, Cyprus and Crete". Studia Islamica (98/99): 222. ISSN 0585-5292. JSTOR 20059216. 6. It was one of these gazi-corsairs, Kemal Reis, who suggested repeatedly to Beyazit II that he embark on conquests of potential bases on Rhodes and the Peloponnese, and offered expert advice on how to do it. This was recorded by Kemal Reis's nephew Piri Reis in his Kitab-i bahriye, a book of sailing directions for the Mediterranean compiled in two versions, the first in 1520 and the second in 1526. Advice on how to conquer Rhodes is included, understandably, only in the first version.
    • İnan, Afet; Yolaç, Leman (trans.) (1954). The Oldest Map of America, Drawn by Piri Reis. Ankara: Türk Tarih Kurumu Basimevi. p. 14. OCLC 2435662. Piri's taking part in the Turkish fleet going to the campaign on Rhodes in 1523 is to be regarded as only natural.
    • Source: The context in the end-of-paragraph source makes the above more clear → Isom-Verhaaren, Christine (2022). The Sultan's fleet: seafarers of the Ottoman empire (First published ed.). London New York Oxford New Delhi Sydney: I.B. Tauris. p. 101. ISBN 978-0-7556-4173-4. Also, Kemal Reis or, in actuality, Piri Reis offered this advice to the sultan clearly noting that any plans would be contingent on the sultan's approval. No plan of conquest would be followed unless the sultan was convinced of its feasibility or benefit to the empire. Kemal or Piri also advised against allowing some individuals to consider themselves too important to be required to bring a bag of dirt to help construct a fortress on Kumburnu. Kemal and/or Piri warned against the pretensions of the elite, who considered themselves superior to the men who would be recruited to implement this plan. The conflict between the administrative elite and seafarers echoes throughout this advice.
  • ALT3: ... that Piri Reis did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
    • Source: McIntosh, Gregory C. (2000a). "The Southern Continent". The Piri Reis Map of 1513. Athens, Georgia: University of Georgia Press. pp. 48–68. ISBN 978-0-82034-359-4. p. 68: When viewed in isolation, the coastline of Terra Australis on the Piri Reis map may superficially appear to resemble the actual coast of Antarctica [...]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Albright
  • Comment: There are some photos of sculptures of Piri Reis (like File:Piri reis.jpg) but so far as I know, no likeness was made during his lifetime. ALT3 summarizes the "Legacy" section, but this may be stretching things too much.

Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 06:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• New GA, very well written and referenced article. Did some minor tweaks, but otherwise it looks fine, QPQ has been done and I see nothing standing in the way of this going forward. From the hooks, ALT3 would be the most interesting, followed in my personal view by ALT1. Question to the nominator, Rjjiii, why not include an image of Piri in the DYK nomination? It would help to ensure greater visibility. Constantine ✍ 19:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cplakidas: the statues, paintings, stamps, currency, and so on with his likeness were all made after his death. If that's not a big deal, I'll add two alternative versions of the preferred hooks below and an image to the DYK.
    • ALT1a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) transported Muslims and Jews from Spain to North Africa during the Granada War?
    • ALT3a: ... that Piri Reis (statue pictured) did not map Antarctica in the sixteenth century?
  • Also, the tweaks are much appreciated, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 02:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Rjjiii: Thanks for a very informative article. Both hooks look good, image is in article, and appropriately licensed. Good to go. Constantine ✍ 17:16, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Mongol princess Al-Altan was rumoured to have poisoned her brother Ögedei Khan?

• ALT1: ... that although the details of Al-Altan's 1246 execution were censored, an unintentional slip in a chronicle reveals who killed her? Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188.
• ALT2: ... that although Eljigidei was originally rewarded for killing the Mongol princess Al-Altan, he was later hunted down and executed in revenge? Source: For his reward, Broadbridge 2018, pp. 187–188; for his death, pp. 220–221.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diaspora Revolt (2nd nomination)

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:52, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The article is new enough (GA passed on 30 October 2024), is long enough (8743 characters of prose), has no copyright violations (per GA review), and is presentable (per GA review and readthrough). The hook is cited to a reliable offline source (accepted in good faith) and interesting. ALT1 is too complicated and ALT2 centers around her executor. QPQ was done. – Editør (talk) 11:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the discovery of a new waltz by Chopin (pictured) has been announced by The New York Times?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/PY Ta 641

Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Note to DYK reviewer: article was moved per talk page discussion ("Title"). I have tried my best to update the templates; there seems to be no need to move this DYK subpage itself. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Updated again due to a second page move, this time without discussion. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• New enough, long enough and well-written. The hook is good and supported by an inline citation to a reliable source (in fact, the rediscovery has been reported quite widely in civilised media). QPQ has been made and copyright tag of the image is fine. There should be no problems. One thing to watch out for before promoting would perhaps be if there are any major updates to the article between the review and the posting, considering it is a bit of a developing story. Nice article, great piece for DYK. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a man stabbed the painting Regulus (pictured) because he disliked the "misty state of the picture"?

• ALT1: ... that the painting Regulus (pictured) depicts a Roman general who was blinded by the sun? Source: * Beaumont, Matthew (2020). "Reason Dazzled: The All-Seeing and the Unseeing in Turner's Regulus". British Art Studies (15). doi:10.17658/issn.2058-5462/issue-15/mbeaumont. ISSN 2058-5462.
• ALT2: ... that J. M. W. Turner repainted Regulus (pictured) by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas? Source: * Cust, Lionel (1895). "The Portraits of J. M. W. Turner, R.A." The Magazine of Art. Open Court Publishing Co. pp. 245–251.
• Reviewed:

CitrusHemlock 13:11, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi CitrusHemlock, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 30 October and far exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable (largely offline) sources; I didn't pick up on any issues with overly close paraphrasing; image is obviously magnificent and PD by virtue of age; no QPQ is required as nominator has only one prior DYK credit; ALT01 is stated in the article and checks out to source cited. I have struck ALT1 as the article states there is doubt that Regulus himself appears in the piece and ALT2 as the article only says that "Gilbert claims" the driving in of the paint was done. Happy to consider alternative hooks if you want to suggest any? - Dumelow (talk) 14:29, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dumelow: Thanks for reviewing the nom so quickly! I was a bit sloppy with the phrasing of the ALTs, the first could probably be rephraised to "...that the painting Regulus is based on a Roman general who was blinded by the sun?" and the second "...that J. M. W. Turner reportedly repainted Regulus by "driving" white paint into the center of the canvas?" Regardless, the stabbing is the most compelling hook in my opinion, but any of them would work well. CitrusHemlock 17:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the 1983 Spanish floods were the most economically damaging in Spain until the 2024 Spanish floods?

• Reviewed: 1931 Barcelona rent strike

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations. Valenciano (talk) 17:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi Valenciano article is new enough and long enough; I can verify the fact from the source cited; I am not familiar with Spanish sources but they look to be newspapers or similar so happy to AGF they are reliable; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources. Couple of queries on sourcing: I couldn't see in the source cited where it said 5 people were left missing and there is no source for the 150 billion pesata cost - Dumelow (talk) 16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Dumelow, I've juggled the references round so that they now match. Valenciano (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, looks OK to me. The hook could potentially benefit from a little work to avoid repetition of "Spanish ... Spain ... Spanish" but I don't have a better suggestion at the moment - Dumelow (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the painting Mountain Landscape is said to defy photographic reproduction, as its immersive depth and luminosity can only be fully experienced in person?
  • Source: Hertzlieb, Gregg (Fall/Winter 2009-2010). "Frederic Edwin Church: Mountain Landscape". Valparaiso Poetry Review. Valparaiso University. XI (1).
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Burrito Express: Template:Did you know nominations/Disputes on Wikipedia; Template:Did you know nominations/It's OK I'm OK

Viriditas (talk) 06:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• General eligibility:
• New enough:
• Long enough:
• Other problems:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook is interesting, good to go. Sahaib (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the founder of Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, styled himself as the "king of the flying burrito"?

• ALT1: ... that when Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, was threatened with closure, longtime customers queued for its food in support? Source: [4]
• ALT2: ... that Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, has burritos on its menu named after Lance Ito and Ross Perot? Source: [5]
• ALT3: ... that Burrito Express in Pasadena, California, serves a burrito named after Ross Perot described as having "a little bit of everything, or you can say it's full of it"? Source: Ibid.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/New World Mall
• Comment: Better image to come tomorrow.

CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: You are burying the lede. Why is Burrito Express called the "king of the flying burrito"? Because they used to run a mail order business that shipped frozen burritos across the U.S. That's your best and most interesting hook. But it's not here. Everything else checks out. Pass ALT0 as first choice, followed by ALT2. I do not support ALT3 as it breaches the bright line of contentiousness, and I don't support ALT1 because "threatened with closure" is too ambiguous and makes it seem like there's a negative component to it when it is just the nature of the business environment during COVID, not the quality of their food. Viriditas (talk) 04:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Thank you for reviewing. I'd appreciate it if you could be more specific as to what the shortcomings are so that I may remedy them. Are you asking me to contextualize ALT0 by mentioning the mail order business? I had thought about it, but was worried it would make the hook too long. If you feel this is necessary, however, please let me know and I will provide a modified hook. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I was just curious about your response. I'm biased towards a hook that doesn't exist, which really doesn't make any kind of sense, so I passed it. Viriditas (talk) 04:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm sorry—I totally misread your review. You're right, it slipped my mind to make a hook based on their mail order business. Please give me until tomorrow morning (PDT) and I'll have a new hook ready for you! Thanks again. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• You really don't have to do that, but if you insist, you are welcome. I'm happy to pass it right now based on the above. Viriditas (talk) 04:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Viriditas: Thank you for your patience. Been busy recently! A couple more ALTs for your consideration.

ALT4: ... that Burrito Express' mail order business was so successful, its owner styled himself the "king of the flying burrito"? (Source: [6])

ALT5: ... that Burrito Express began shipping out its burritos by mail because of demand from former customers who had moved away from California? (Source: Ibid.) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 01:24, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like ALT4, ALT5, followed by ALT0 and ALT2. I will let the prepper decide. Viriditas (talk) 02:20, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24 and Viriditas: ALT4's the best one, but the source doesn't really say that the style was because of the company's success. In fact, it doesn't even say that the company's successful, although its gross revenue is high. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Theleekycauldron: I agree with your assessment. Let's go with ALT5, or combine ALT5 and ALT4 as I originally suggested in my review, without the "so successful" bit. In other words: " ... that Burrito Express began shipping burritos by mail due to demand from former customers who had moved, leading the owner to describe himself as the "king of the flying burrito"? Viriditas (talk) 08:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Issue resolved below, 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC) I don't think the image can be freely licensed by the photographer since the business would own the copyright to the sign. No objections to promoting without an image, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 17:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've seen DYKs with images that include business signs and logos (such as this, this, and this one). Is it because the image focuses exclusively on the sign? There is another image I added to the article a couple of days ago with the sign off to the side in a wider shot of the restaurant front patio. Would that be acceptable for the DYK? —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: the copyright rules in the United States are arbitrarily different for a building that you can go inside of and a free-standing sculpture or sign. Give me a moment, and I'll find some links, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 20:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: Here are some links: on Commons, FoP on Commons, the legal exceptions for buildings, and an explanation about buildings. A photograph that focuses mostly on the building will not have the same issue because you can go inside of the building. The exceptions to copyright law for buildings in public spaces don't apply to 2D signs or to 3D sculptures unless they are integrated into the design of the building. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 20:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. So I'm still confused. According to Commons, "detailed informational and educational noticeboards/signs" are unacceptable as they are almost always copyright protected. Would the Burrito Express sign qualify as such a sign? The information it imparts appears to be generic and, at least to me, not detailed at all. I appreciate your answers and patience. At any rate, I'm happy as long as the DYK runs, with or without photo, but just want clarification for the future. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CurryTime7-24: you might get a more informed answer at Commons, but I imagine the sign's doodle is the kind of "graphic image" that would clearly give it copyright protection. In the US, I think the legal bar is sufficiently creative, which is fairly low. A larger-scale photo like the one in the article where the doodle is just a minor bit is likely fine (De_minimis#Copyright). Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rjjiii: Can we use this image instead? Viriditas (talk) 00:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Viriditas: yes, I don't see an issue with that one, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 00:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Rjjiii: Thank you, I've replaced it with the approval of the legendary CurryTime7-24.[7] Can we get your tickmark going forward? Viriditas (talk) 00:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Viriditas: yes, and concern struck above, Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 01:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that an Indiana university argued in court that The Silver Veil and the Golden Gate, a 1914 painting, was too modern for their art collection in 2024?
  • Source: Aguiar, Annie (July 19, 2024). "To Sell Prized Paintings, a University Proclaims They're Not 'Conservative'". The New York Times. Retrieved November 7, 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sonya Friedman; Template:Did you know nominations/Nikolaus Mollyn

Viriditas (talk) 04:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting painting, covered well and detailed on fine sources, subscription sources accepted AGF. I am less happy with the hook. My understanding - which of course may be wrong - is not that they found it too modern, but that they thought those who had bought it earlier should have found it too modern, which is a completely different thing. I would prefer to get a bit more info in the hook about the subject than "a 1914 painting" - painter, style, subject, whatever. The title alone didn't prepare me for the beautiful thing I saw, and the hook would not have made me look, - it was your name that hooked me ;) - If you still want that hook, I'll approve it, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: This controversy is covered by the NYT,[8] so I won't go into it too much here other than to say that this subject, American Impressionist Childe Hassam (1859–1935), was called "conservative to the core" by New Yorker art critic Peter Schjeldahl in 2004, and that is the accepted opinion by art historians. To address this slightly further, Hassam embraced an older, antiquated kind of modernism dating to about the 1870s, which represented the art of the generation before him. Ironically by the time the American art world accepted Hassam as status quo, perhaps by the time of the Armory Show of 1913 or thereabouts, the time of the American Impressionists had come and gone. Hassam was on record expressing his extreme displeasure at the ascendancy of the new Cubism, so his conservativsm as an artist was well known. I won't go into Hassam's social conservatism, as there is quite a bit written on that subject, similar to that of Renoir, and it's somewhat separate from his conservative approach to art. The quirky nature of the hook is centered around a 110-year-old painting by an artist who vocally objected to the trajectory of modern art in 1913 and yet was considered "too modern" by Valparaiso University in 2024 based on a specious legal argument that hinges on the definition and interpretation of "conservative" art, a definition that is disputed by art historians and legal experts. I should like to add one final thing: while writing a series of articles about this topic, I found that the legal argument made by Valparaiso University doesn't hold up based on the history of art. It turns out that the techniques and philosophy found in the Hudson River School, attributed to its founder Thomas Cole, which forms the underlying basis of Valparaiso's argument that Hassam's work is too modern to be included in the university collection, are in fact, almost identical to the working technique and philosophy of Childe Hassam. I laughed out loud when I realized this (and I think I woke up my neighbors at 2 AM) because it means Valparaiso's case should never have been approved by the courts. It turns out that Hassam used the same technique that Cole talks about in the 1840s and 1850s. This involves "creating compositions of both representational and imaginative landscapes, where the artist creates a fusion of what is both in the natural world and in the mind on the canvas". Hassam famously did this throughout his career, most notably in the painting Point Lobos, Carmel (1914) to such an extent, that the artist he was working with, Francis McComas (1874-1938), had a fit and complained to his wife about Hassam's conservative, anti-modernist approach, and the incident made its way into the history books. To summarize: I think it's possible you missed the point I was making. With that said, I am open to creating new hooks as always. Viriditas (talk) 00:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, to respond to the comment in your edit history, no, it's not supposed to be inside baseball, and if it comes off that way, it definitely needs a new hook. I will present others to choose from, but it doesn't look like you'll be around. I can make a request on DYK to have others look. Viriditas (talk) 08:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that as a teenager in the 1900s, Annie Huggett organised suffragette meetings at her local pub?

• ALT1: ... that at 103 years old, Annie Huggett was the oldest surviving suffragette at the time of her 1996 death? Source: "Annie was proud to be both the country’s oldest surviving suffragette and the longest card-carrying member of the Labour Party. ,,, The Red Flag was sung at Annie’s funeral in 1996 when she was laid to rest in Rippleside Cemetery." from the same source
• ALT2: ... that because of her republican beliefs, Annie Huggett's family hid from her the telegram sent by Elizabeth II to mark a British person's 100th birthday? Source: "He last saw Annie in May 1992 on her 100th birthday and remembers two cards being pride of place on her mantelpiece – one was from the Labour Party, the other was from Barking Town FC ... He said both were very important to her – but there was one birthday message that certainly wasn’t on display: her message from the Queen. When Gerry asked Annie’s daughter about its whereabouts he was told that they had hidden it for fear of offending her as she was a lifelong and staunch republican." from the same source
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johnny Fripp

Dumelow (talk) 08:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Reviewing... New enough, long enough, reads well. Will go through rest soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 08:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ... No copyvio issues. QPQ provided. Hooks all good and are in article and sources. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that David Hilchen played a key role in the establishment of Renaissance humanism in the area of the present-day Baltic states? Source: Viiding 2024, p. 119-120
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Valse in A minor (Chopin)

Yakikaki (talk) 15:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting life and work, on few but fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the interesting short hook! I have a few wishes for the article: 1) give him an infobox, or it looks as if it was an article about a coat of arms, 2) avoid "would" - everything is now past, 3) bring the refs above the cited sources - no idea why German and others have it differently, but in English, that's normal, 4) formal the one source that's not yet among Cited sources like the others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

...though upon reflection, in this case you're right, an infobox makes the coat of arms look less awkward. Added. Thanks again Gerda! Yakikaki (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?

• ALT1: ... that when Arthur France founded the Leeds West Indian Carnival in 1967, it was the first Caribbean carnival in Europe? Source: same source
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Trilobite Wilderness

Chaiten1 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is sourced with inline citations. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no crucial text similarities commenting "violation unlikely". Both hooks are well-formatted and interesting.Their length is within limit. They are accurate with reference given inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee 10:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Doctor Who star Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of the series as a child?

• ALT1: ... that Twelfth Doctor actor Peter Capaldi (pictured) was a fan of Doctor Who as child? Source: https://ew.com/article/2014/08/01/once-upon-time-lord/
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dune (Kenshi Yonezu song)

Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 01:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Might be interesting to note Capaldi's age when he played the Doctor, then! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Light Vessel 93 (pictured) was converted into a photography studio?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Al-Shaykh Badr
• Comment: Could run as a double-hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, if desired

Dumelow (talk) 16:07, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Dumelow, nice work on this article. Do you still want to run this as a double hook with Template:Did you know nominations/Light Vessel 95, because that nomination has already been reviewed? Epicgenius (talk) 01:20, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Epicgenius, I am happy for them to run separately. Was just putting the option out there as there is usually a backlog of approved hooks - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All right, then. My previous approval is unchanged. Epicgenius (talk) 14:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" composed by Kenshi Yonezu has a music video that was viewed over one million times over the span of less than a week on the Japanese video-sharing site NicoNico?

• ALT1: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" written by Kenshi Yonezu for Hatsune Miku's 10th anniversary features lyrics about the demise of life? Source: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2017/10/31/music/kenshi-yonezu-hopes-fireworks-new-album-bootleg/
• ALT2: ... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" worked by Kenshi Yonezu is much slower compared to many other Vocaloid songs, at only 95 BPM? Source: https://natalie.mu/music/pp/hachi_ryo/page/3
• Reviewed:

ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 09:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hook is interesting and true,

I made a small copy edit but beyond that the content is fine, earwig has less then 10% overlap. QPQ not need congrats on your first DYK! Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OlifanofmrTennant: Thanks! But it seems the DYK template not working well? ときさき くるみ ^{not because they are easy, but because they are hard} 18:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that after the liberation of Rome, U.S. Army chaplain Patrick Ryan celebrated a Mass of Thanksgiving in the Church of Santa Maria degli Angeli e dei Martiri for 10,000 people?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Biasiny-Rivera

~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 00:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article promoted to GA on 3 November; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, stated in article and supported by citations (I note one source says "almost 10,000" and one says "more than 10,000" so I think you are OK just stating 10,000); a QPQ has been carried out; my only query is on the image: do you have confirmation that it is a work of a US military person, I couldn't see anything in the source? It is likely to be the case but we should confirm - Dumelow (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Howdy Dumelow, the photographer is a historical researcher and I can't imagine where else it would be from other than an official photo; however you're right, it's not 100%, and I don't have the time to try to confirm it this week - probably best to do it without the photo. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 14:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Darth Stabro, no worries. Happy to approve to run without image - Dumelow (talk) 14:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that a manuscript of the New Testament was bound with the books in the wrong order, to which a scholar decried "[he] has messed everything up"?

• Reviewed:

Stephen Walch (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi Stephen: this article, promoted to GA on November 1, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio or close paraphrase. Hook sourced, short enough, and interesting. QPQ does not need to be done. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the apricot dress of Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy, made in silk zibeline, kept its shape in India's hot temperature?

• Reviewed: Viriamo
• Comment: Would appreciate comments from Philafrenzy if possible

Whispyhistory (talk) 18:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Interesting dress, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the hook, but suggest to drop "Bouvier" - she is better known as Jackie Kennedy - and to link zibeline as in the article. - The image is licensed and serves well as illustration of why this colour. For formality, you still have to add (pictured) to the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT0a: ... that the apricot dress of Jacqueline Kennedy (pictured), made in silk zibeline, kept its shape in India's hot temperature? Whispyhistory (talk) 17:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ALT0a preferred --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I believe that the image could be cropped a bit for this purpose, but even if not, she stands out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Obviously should be cropped. Also, why not:
  • Alt1 ... that the apricot dress (pictured) that Jacqueline Kennedy wore on her 1962 tour of India was copied for a Barbie doll costume? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you... sounds good too. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The pic should not be cropped too much, - still sky and ground and some people looking pale in comparison. In ALlt1, I believe that pictured should come after India, because not only the dress is pictured but that dress worn in India.

    I approve Alt1 as well, but think the original is more focused, and told me something I was happy to learn. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Oscar Goodman is New Zealand's only global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree since 2002?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest Prestwich

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Democrat mayor Amer Ghalib endorsed Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mountain Landscape

Sahaib (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• I will take this review. Dwkaminski (talk) 12:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 12:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review comments:

• I don't see the support for the statement "A member of the Democratic Party, he worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States." in the newsweek reference. It should be referenced to the fox news website. I can't read the NY Times reference but AGF.
• I don't see the support for the statement "Ghalib acknowledged their disagreements on key issues but that he believed that Trump would end the Israel–Hamas war." in the two references given
• Earwig copyvio detector shows 13.0% - violation unlikely
• @Sahaib: Overall very good. Just minor sourcing issues listed above. Please fix and I will approve. Dwkaminski (talk) 13:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dwkaminski: sorry about the sources, a lot were added by another user (see history). The Newsweek source states that he was a member of the Democratic Party whilst the New York Times sources the rest. The Newsweek sources states "acknowledging some disagreements with the former president" and in the New York Times it states that "President Biden’s support of Israel and a belief that Mr. Trump will end the conflict in the Middle East." You can view the source in its archived form. Sahaib (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sahaib: All good. approved! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:10, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Personally I'm not sure this is interesting enough for DYK. We saw plenty of people cross party lines to endorse Biden or Harris, and I don't believe those would be interesting enough for DYK either. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Hey man im josh: I have added some alt hooks. Sahaib (talk) 17:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The alt hooks are much more interesting than what was originally proposed, which seemed relatively run of the mill. Thanks for the additions @Sahaib:. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Cathedral Cemetery was the first Catholic cemetery established in Philadelphia?

• ALT1: ... that over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry are interred at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia? Source: The cemetery contains the burial of over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, a volunteer regiment of Irish immigrants that fought at the Battle of Gettysburg and other major battles of the American Civil War. (Keels - page 97)
• ALT2: ... that the funds from the sale of burial lots at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia were used for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul? Source: The cemetery was named Cathedral Cemetery since funds raised by the sale of burial lots were intended for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul. (Keels - page 91)
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Amer Ghalib

Dwkaminski (talk) 19:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article exceeds the 1,500-character minimum of readable prose. The information is succinct and informative, written in a neutral tone, with no apparent bias or promotional language. While the article is sourced adequately, it could benefit from a few more inline citations in the "Notable burials" section (Please note that all of the individuals listed can be verified via their respective Wikipedia pages, but citations linking to reliable secondary sources would strengthen the section). I checked for potential plagiarism or close paraphrasing using online tools, and the content seems original. I noticed the DYK submission currently lacks an image, the free image in the article would enhance the article's visual appeal and could engage readers more effectively. A nice read, all three hooks are valid and more or less interesting. For me it's good to go. el.ziade (talkallam) 13:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the radio program Radio City Music Hall of the Air employed approximately 10,000 musicians during the first eight years of its broadcast history?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marina Kondratyeva2

4meter4 (talk) 23:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• New article, plenty long, sourced throughout including hook fact, which is interesting enough. AGF as many sources are offline or paywalled. Appears to be written neutrally. Copyvio is "unlikely". QPQ is provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:15, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Marie Denizard (pictured) was the first woman to stand as a candidate in a French presidential election even though French women did not achieve suffrage until 1944?

• Reviewed:

MumphingSquirrel (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• ALT1 ... that Marie Denizard (pictured) stood as a candidate in a French presidential election in 1913 even though French women did not achieve suffrage until 1944? same sources as ALT, a slight rephrasing. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article is quite long and very well written so I can excuse the fact that it is not quite as fresh as it should be. I am more concerned about the fact that I can find almost nothing about this woman via Google, Google Books, or Google Scholar that was not published after the French Wikipedia's article about her. It seems so unlikely that the first woman to stand as a candidate for president of France should be so little known. I was able to find just enough to ascertain that she did indeed exist, but I am still a bit uneasy. MumphingSquirrel, do you have access to the 1910s sources cited in the article? Surtsicna (talk) 19:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Surtsicna thanks for the prompts. I have now added url links to the 1910 docs which are accessible online. Hope this helps confirm her candidacy - she really has been one of the notable women forgotten by history until recently MumphingSquirrel (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful. Thanks. It is quite astonishing that she was so thoroughly forgotten. Perhaps DYK can help change that! Surtsicna (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that farmer, teacher, and author Gail Damerow was described by Grist magazine as "poultry's Cesar Millan"?

• ALT1: ... that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet? Source: "The scoop on ice cream" - The Knoxville News-Sentinel
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boxheim Documents

Silverseren^C 01:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. Overall the article has no copyright problems and both the hooks are mentioned in the article. But the problem is related to how the hooks are mentioned in the article. As I see when it comes to ALT1, it mentions that ' that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet?. However in the article where the hook ('Awards and Honors') is mentioned, it just states 'described by The New York Times as the authoritative book on ice cream'. Hope you can fix this issue by adding more of the ALT1's fact here. The first hook is fine. So just fix the stated issue and after that I can give green light for your article for DYK. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Toadboy123, do you mean the part of the hook on why the book was created? Because that's in the beginning of the Career section, with the source I gave above. Silverseren^C 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Silver seren I suggest that you mention the hook also in the 'Awards and Honors' section so that readers can easily notice it when they read the article. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:13, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. Silverseren^C 22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  In that case, then the article is all good to go then. - Toadboy123 (talk) 13:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that residents evacuated in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident were exposed to so little radiation that radiation-induced health effects are likely to be below detectable levels?

• • ALT1: ... that during the Fukushima nuclear accident officials were told not to use the phrase "core meltdown" in order to conceal the meltdown until they officially recognized it two months after the accident? Source: " Tepco asked a third-party panel to investigate the matter and the panel released a report on 16 June saying the company’s then-president, Masataka Shimizu, had instructed officials not to use the words "core meltdown"." https://www.neimagazine.com/news/tepco-concealed-core-meltdowns-during-fukushima-accident-4931915/
  • ALT2: ... that the Fukushima nuclear accident was foreseeable and preventable? Source: "The accident "cannot be regarded as a natural disaster," the panel's chairman, Tokyo University professor emeritus Kiyoshi Kurokawa, wrote in the report. "It was a profoundly manmade disaster -- that could and should have been foreseen and prevented. And its effects could have been mitigated by a more effective human response."" https://www.smh.com.au/world/fukushima-nuclear-accident--manmade-not-natural--disaster-20120705-21jrl.html
  • Reviewed:

Czarking0 (talk) 20:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• @Czarking0: I'll start by addressing WP:DYKNEW. This article last appeared at In the news on 12 April 2011, and the on this day on 11 March 2023. This was over one year ago, so it can go on the main page again.

The article recently became a good article so it is eligible for DYK. Earwig's is not working so i'll assume good faith when it comes to copyvios. QPQ not needed.

I'll review ALT0 (I think it is the most interesting). The hook matches the article.

I'm worried about the source for this hook because it is a preliminary report, which uses predictions of health effects rather than observations. It also doesn't say about the evacuations and also says In the highest dose location ... For leukaemia, the lifetime risks are predicted to increase by up to around 7% over baseline cancer rates in males exposed as infants However, a 2020 source says that No adverse health effects among Fukushima residents have been documented that are directly attributable to radiation exposure from the FDNPS accident. So I'll approve, with caution. ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured) hosted horse races, a golf club, and prisoners of war?

• • ALT1: ... that British forces severed a Chinese railway line after an aircraft was forced to land at the Jiangwan Racecourse (pictured)? Source: "Firm Action by British Military in Shanghai". The North-China Herald. Shanghai. 20 August 1927. pp. 309–310. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin Franklin Shumard

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi Chris Woodrich, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 3 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am not familiar with all of the sources (particularly the none-English ones) but happy to AGF that they are all reliable; image looks to be PD (as was in public domain at URAA date); hooks facts are mentioned in the article and check out to source cited, my preference is probably for ALT0 as the connection between the aircraft landing and dismantling the railway is not obvious to the reader; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraprasing in a spotcheck and Earwig doesn't flag up any issues. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Augustus Pugin called St John the Evangelist Church, Islington a "deformity", which was refuted by Joseph Hansom?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Carlyle Hotel

Cardofk (talk) 21:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Hi Cardofk, nice work on this article. Review follows: article created 3 November and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources (though I usually avoid British Listed Buildings as it is a mirror of the Historic England listing; I didn't pick up on any paraphrasing issues; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is freely licensed; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, very good point, thanks for spotting it, I really should have linked to the Reformation at the beginning. Will do. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Mary Robertson was the first woman to receive a Doctor of Science in Medicine from the University of Cape Town? Source: ^[1]
  • Reviewed:

Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• article is new enough, long enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is not required. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Arab physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud was recruited by the Latin king of Jerusalem to treat a disabled boy prince, while Abu Sulayman's son taught the prince to ride a horse using only his knees?

• ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
• ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Czarodziejski okręt
• Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.

Surtsicna (talk) 18:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New article with 2380 characters, well-sourced with inline citations. I reviewed all cited sources for verification; all sources are accessible. No issues with copyvio or tone. All hooks are interesting, well-researched, and properly cited. Thank you for writing about Abu Sulayman, an exceptional figure whose life bridged cultural and religious divides. As an Arab Christian, I appreciate how this article highlights the contributions of Eastern Christians, and Arabs in general in medicine and science. el.ziade (talkallam) 10:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that as part of an insurance fraud scheme, Big Motor employees hit cars with socks stuffed with golf balls?

• ALT1: ... that Tokyo police raided Big Motor's headquarters as part of an investigation about tree killing? Source: 13 at Bigmotor Referred to Prosecutors over Roadside Trees, The Japan News - "Bigmotor officials told Jiji Press in September last year that the company cut down trees and sprayed herbicides...The Tokyo police raided Bigmotor’s headquarters and nine outlets in September last year over the dead trees."
• Reviewed:

FossilDS (talk) 19:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Interesting, copyvio free, long enough, recently created, reliable source. Both are passable but the first is far more interesting (and the second is cited into a different source in text).

However, one issue. I am worried this article is slightly NPOV, in that it has almost no content except the controversies. While their scandals are a key part of the notability I have concerns with running on the front page an article that is only scandal when they do seem to have been otherwise notable, with little historical context or other information on their activities. For comparison, the Japanese article looks more balanced on this front. I don't think anything has to be removed, but maybe add more that isn't scandal? I have no issues otherwise. PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PARAKANYAA:, thank you for the review! I do also agree that the article leans a bit too heavily on the controversies, but almost all Japanese-language sources and all English-languages sources basically only talk about the scandals, so it was a bit difficult finding stuff unrelated to it. I've reorganized the article a bit and added more info from the Japanese article, I hope it's at least somewhat sufficient. I'm also happy with nominating the first DYK instead of ALT1.FossilDS (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The new changes address my issue. Good to go! PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the youngest player to debut in FC Seoul history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old?

• ALT1: ... that footballer Kang Ju-hyeok (pictured) became the third youngest player to debut in K League history at 17 years, 9 months, and 6 days old? Source: https://www.fourfourtwo.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=55320
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Glomp

✗plicit 13:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Article looks good and hook is interesting. Approving with good faith because I cannot speak Korean, although Google Translate verifies the hook. ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that the Carlyle Hotel had to be sold just two years after its completion? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times.
  • ALT1: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, which had to be sold just two years after its completion, later became the "White House of Manhattan"? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 28, 2001). "Streetscapes/The Carlyle Hotel, 76th Street and Madison Avenue; Art Deco Tower Where President Kennedy Stayed". The New York Times; Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times
  • ALT2: ... that a Carlyle Hotel staffer once lent his own bow tie to Laurence Olivier for a dinner? Source: Agovino, Theresa (November 21, 1988). "Secrets of Carlyle's Success". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 4, no. 47. p. 3.
  • ALT3: ... that during the construction of the Carlyle Hotel, the pipes in its bathrooms were changed after its developer's son visited two nearby construction sites? Source: Brenner, Marie (December 19, 1983). "The Inside Story of the Carlyle". New York Magazine. New York Media, LLC. p. 31.
  • ALT4: ... that the Carlyle Hotel, once known as the "White House of Manhattan", has also hosted royalty? Source: Talese, Gay (February 7, 1964). "Madison Avenue: A Street of Presidents and Poise". The New York Times; Birmingham, Stephen (March 1, 1992). "New York is Full of Luxury Hotels, but There's Nothing Else Quite Like the Fabled Carlyle-remarkably Comfortable, Distinctively Stylish and Very Discreet". Los Angeles Times. p. 26
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wuhan trolleybus route 1
  • Comment: I will probably come up with more hooks later.

Epicgenius (talk) 01:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Certainly updated recently, with a 114k-character expansion, so new enough, and long enough. It is well-sourced and not too closely paraphrased. The hooks are short and interesting. I would go for ALT1, for me it's the most interesting/surprising, but I'm happy with all of them (and who's knows what other hooks are in store). And QPQ has been done. If there is a problem, I cannot find it. Thank you. Cardofk (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Michael O'Kane never received approval to begin constructing a building for the College of the Holy Cross?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charles de Gaulle's trip to South America

Ergo Sum 03:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Not a review - but the current version of ALT0 doesn't seem very clear: is the word 'before' needed? @Ergo Sum: Chaiten1 (talk) 11:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Chaiten1: That was a typo. I've fixed it. Ergo Sum 16:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• This is a newly created article, which is well written, well sourced and has no copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, a good length, and checks out with the source (verified in google books); the hook is appropriately referenced in the article. QPQ has been done. Nice work! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) rebuilt the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852?

• ALT1: ... that Anthony F. Ciampi (pictured) fought his superiors to rebuild the College of the Holy Cross after it was destroyed by fire in 1852? Source: Kuzniewski, Anthony J. (1999). Thy Honored Name: A History of the College of the Holy Cross, 1843-1994. Washington, D.C.: Catholic University of America Press. pp. 81–82. ISBN 9780813209111. Archived from the original on December 15, 2018. Retrieved December 15, 2018 – via Google Books.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nocturna (band)

Ergo Sum 17:05, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Either hook works. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that during breeding season, the male standard-winged nightjar (pictured) grows a wing ornament over twice the length of its body?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Harvey Tuckett

Reconrabbit 22:33, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

• The article is fine in every respect (long enough, well-written and recently enough promoted to GA), and the hook is good, but it is not backed up by the wording in the article. In the article it simply says that the standards are "much longer" than the body, now "twice the length". There should also be an inline citation supporting the claim directly after the sentence in which it is made. It's a small fix, after which the article should be ready for DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I believe that the length given of a broad secondary flight feather[4] on each wing elongated to up to 53.5 centimetres makes sense to describe as "twice the length of its body" since earlier the bird's length is given as this medium-sized (20–23 centimetres (7.9–9.1 in) long) nightjar and 53.5÷2=26.75 > 23 cm. Though since it's "up to" I could see justifying adding "that can be" after "wing ornament" in the hook. Additionally the quote in the source describes the bird's body as "21-22 cm" and immediately after gives a minimum length of 45 cm with the standards. I could change it to say directly in the article "over twice the length" instead of just "much longer" though. Reconrabbit 00:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I wasn't arguing that the facts were not in the article or not supported by the inline citations. DYK used to have a rule, though, which stated "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." However I see now that the rules have changed and become more flexible, and I can therefore happily drop this minor objection and give the green light to the article. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ... that Yoon Do-young (pictured) scored his debut goal for Daejeon Hana Citizen 50 seconds into its match against Gwangju FC?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Song Zhenzhong

✗plicit 12:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to. Both articles new enough, long enough. Hook fact is cited in the flag article. AGF on Korean sources. FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 16:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]