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Hello Arsenal Fan700,I came to know that you are one of the editor of indian football pages and currently you are editing the wiki page of ATK Mohun Bagan FC.

    Currently there is a ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page to change its name.Some are saying ATK Mohun Bagan is a continuation of Mohun Bagan.Some are saying it is a continuation of ATK FC.But we know that ATKMB FC is a very new club and i have 2 interviews of directors of ATK Mohun Bagan Pvt.ltd.
     The first interview is of Utsav Parek where he confirmed that ATK Mohun Bagan Fc is a new club founded in 2020.When a fan asked about inclusion of 1889 in the logo,The exact words of Mr.Parek was
     "The club has been created today then how can we write founded 1889 in the logo,it is legally not correct."
      Here is the link of the interview Dated July 11,Time stamp 26:42

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/738400133657162/

      The second interview is of Debashis Dutta where he also confirmed that ATK Mohun Bagan Fc is a new club founded in 2020.When the interviewer asked him about including 1889 in the logo the exact words of Mr.Dutta was
     "ATK Mohun Bagan is a avatar of Mohun Bagan but the foundation year of ATKMB is not same as Mohun Bagan.1889 is the foundation year of Mohun Bagan not of ATK Mohun Bagan.How can we legally write 1889 in the logo?Mohun Bagan was founded in 1889 but ATK Mohun Bagan has been created in 2020"
     Here is the link of the interview Dated july 15,Time stamp 23:18

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/288622845552479/

    So when the directors are confirming that ATK Mohun Bagan FC is a new club founded in 2020 so there is no point of discussion.My kind request to you to create a new page for ATK Mohun Bagan FC.
    And being an editor if you include this points in the ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page it will be very helpful to establish our point that it is a new club founded in 2020.
                  Thank you
                   [[[User:BarcelonaFan995|BarcelonaFan995]] (talk) 05:14, 20 October 2020 (UTC)]

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      Hello Arsenal Fan700,Thanks for including those interviews of Utasav Parekh and Debashis Dutta in the ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page.
      Here I have another information regarding this matter.whenever we start discussing on ATK Mohun Bagan, the one point Mohun Bagan fans have is that as ATK Mohun Bagan will take part in AFC Cup 2021 a slot which was provided to Mohun Bagan so ATK Mohun Bagan is a continuation of Mohun Bagan but today I have found an article regarding this matter and the article is not from a small media house it was published by [Goal.com],world's largest online football publication.
       Link of the article

https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/explained-three-afc-slots-for-2021-isl-indian-football/1xzum00p0va021r20k40t9ruym

       And there they have clearly said ""as Mohun Bagan have entered into a merger with ATK and will form a new club which will come into effect from june 2020,their AFC cup slot will now be availed by the newly formed ATK Mohun Bagan FC""
       ""If they decides not to take the slot then it will go to the Ileague runners-up.Even if ATK wins the playoff they are likely to take up the slot that Mohun Bagan has earned as it provides them a direct entry into the group stage.""
        So it is very clear from the article that the decision was taken by the management itself which slot to take and which to giveup.so taking the slot of AFC cup group stage which was earned by Mohun Bagan does not mean that ATK Mohun Bagan is a continuation of Mohun Bagan.It was totally upto them which slot they want take as the group stage slot provides a direct entry into the AFC cup ATK Mohun Bagan decided to take that and leftover the AFC cup play off slot which was later provided to Bengaluru FC.
      If you could add this points in the ongoing discussion on Mohun Bagan AC's wiki page it will be very helpful to prove that taking a slot earned by Mohun Bagan does not mean ATK Mohun Bagan a continuation of Mohun Bagan. 
                      Thanks
                      [[[User:BarcelonaFan995|BarcelonaFan995]] (talk) 03:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)]

__________________________________ Hello ArsenalFan700, here i am listing all the sources that prove ATK Mohun Bagan FC is a new club and need a new article on wikipedia. 1.official merger announcement where it is clearly written that they will form a new club.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7YWo5cpkcA/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

2.About section of ATKMB's facebook page claiming it is a new club.

https://m.facebook.com/pg/atkmohunbaganfc/about/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0

3.Interviews of directors and co-owners claiming it is a new club.

https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/288622845552479/ https://www.facebook.com/DigitalMediaIdeas/videos/738400133657162/

4.Goal.com,world's largest online football publication's report on how ATKMB can still play in AFC CUP being a new club.

https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/explained-three-afc-slots-for-2021-isl-indian-football/1xzum00p0va021r20k40t9ruym

5.A reputed media house NEWS18's article on ATKMB have no previous records and have to start from the zero.

http://news18.com/news/sports/indian-super-league-2020-21-to-kick-off-from-november-20-in-goa-2990645.html

6.Transfermarkt.com a reputed football related website having a new page for ATKMB with no previous records claiming its a brand new club.they still have two separate pages one for Mohun Bagan and one for ATK FC.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.in/atk-mohun-bagan-fc/transfers/verein/83266

7.'Hero ISL Champions 2019-20' is embroided on the jersey and training kits of ATKMB.it proves that history of ATK is a integral part of ATKMB.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkNiJcIX0AASZEu?format=jpg&name=large

8.In the official website of Hero ISL ATK FC has been rebranded as ATKMB FC.

https://www.indiansuperleague.com/standings

9.RPSG Group's website where both the logos of ATK FC and Mohun Bagan AC has been removed and replaced with the new logo of ATKMB.if ATKMB is a rebranded version of Mohun Bagan then the logo of ATK FC should have been there as they still have the logo of Rising Pune Supergiant,their IPL team that is currently dissolved.

https://www.rpsg.in/business/rpsgsports

10.And also the Office address of ATKMB is Topsia not Maidan.

  ATKMB does not pick any bid paper they are still using the old bid paper of ATK.
  when players like Roy,Prabir,Edu had signed for the club they termed it as 'extension' and when players like Sahil had signed for the club they termed it as 'new signing'.
       When the club itself claiming that ATKMB is a new club,when the owners and directors are claiming that ATKMB is a new club,when both Indian and foreign media houses are claiming that its a new club why wikipedia still does not have a separate article on ATK Mohun Bagan FC?
     It is my kind request to you that it is the right time to create a new article on ATK Mohun Bagan FC as Hero ISL is going to start in less than a month.
                      Thanks[[[User:BarcelonaFan995|BarcelonaFan995]] (talk) 16:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)]