User talk:JAF1970/Archive 1

Hmm, I can tell you've got nothing else going on in your life other than "guarding" the Spore page from being anything else than what you want. That's kind of sad. It's all yours. I hope your life gets a little less pathetic and pitiful... seriously, I do. Enjoy your Spore page. --Jonah5678 (talk) 16:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the personal attack. You can go now. JAF1970 (talk) 16:11, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hi JAF1970. I understand your rationale and appreciate your dedication to keeping Wikipedia reliable, but wouldn't you say that the creator of the game discussing development on the Wii is enough reason to note that a Wii version is being developed? Did you read the reference I gave? What benefit is there in waiting until EA lists the game in a release calendar?--Jonah5678 (talk) 18:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. Do you understand what "officially confirmed" means? JAF1970 (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but if your wife called you and told you your house was on fire, would you need to wait and hear about it on the news to be sure? Also, please answer my other two questions: Did you read the reference I gave? What benefit is there in waiting until EA lists the game in a release calendar? --Jonah5678 (talk) 21:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
When are you going to bring Nazis in? By that logic, I should include the Xbox 360, the PS3, the PSP, and iPods because Wright stated he INTENDED to bring Spore to every console system. Little hint: no one is actively working on the Wii version. No manpower. EA dictates that. Period. End of story. Until EA says it, it's just a fantasy of Wright's. One of the rules of Wikipedia: NO SPECULATION. This is not for my page, by the way. Go to the Talk:Spore (video game) page. JAF1970 (talk) 21:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nazis, you're very mature individual. So the answer is "no" and "there is none". A quote from Wright from the article: "I can't say much about [the Wii version] except the fact that the overriding kind of factor ... in terms of looking at what direction that team goes with it, has been to make really good use of the controller" Also, the interviewer says to Wright "A Wii version has already been announced", which Wright does not correct him on. And you seem to be the main roadblock in updating this page, so I thought I'd talk directly to you. --Jonah5678 (talk) 21:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Has the Wii been confirmed? Yes or no? Has EA announced a Wii version? Yes or no? Wright can say what he likes - EA is the one who pays people to develop, and there is no, absolutely NO, manpower devoted to a Wii version. There's as much a chance of a Wii version as 360, PS3, and PSP. And Wright said that. The potential Wii version is mentioned in Development of Spore. End of story. JAF1970 (talk) 22:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
From Gamespot: "EA Games president Frank Gibeau said that Spore is 'already in development' for the newest generation of consoles, 'Wii included.'" The president of EA Games specifically said that a Wii version is being developed. That is the very definition of CONFIRMATION. Will you update the page or should I? --Jonah5678 (talk) 16:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Then why is only the Wii being added? (laugh) Spore is not a forum for fanboys. It's not confirmed, you put it in Development of Spore. End of story. How was the Mac OS X version announced? THAT'S an official announcement by EA. If it's not HERE, it's not official. JAF1970 (talk) 20:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, you said "there is no, absolutely NO, manpower devoted to a Wii version." In fact there is, as stated by the President of EA Games. I'm not a fanboy, I"m someone who's trying to let Wikipedia be used for its intended purpose: to allow access to credible information. You want to dictate how that information is dissipated, but it's not your place. --Jonah5678 (talk) 20:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't. He said 'already in development' - he should have said pre-production. If it ain't officially announced by EA, it's speculation. If it's not HERE, it's not official. JAF1970 (talk) 20:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And how do you know that he should have said "pre-production"? Who are you again? --Jonah5678 (talk) 20:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you keep adding just the Wii, then? If you were sincere, you'd add the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and the PlayStation Portable as well. (chuckle) JAF1970 (talk) 20:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because he specifically mentions the Wii by name, thus confirming it. It's not about "sincerity", it's about accuracy. Could you please remind me who made you the sheriff of Wikipedia? --Jonah5678 (talk) 20:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nice try. Unless the 360, PSP and PS3 are no longer seventh generation consoles. And I'm only keeping Spore nice, clean and efficient. I still don't understand why you don't post it at Development of Spore, where speculation and development goes. Can you not read? Nothing that is unconfirmed is in the main Spore article. Just hard facts. That's why the swimming/flying stuff is there. That's why the release date for a long time was there. For months, you had people posting Amazon's reseller date, and even when EA said "by the Q1", no one was allowed to put that either.
No press release = not official. Ever worked in a corporation? The president of a company can say one thing and the board will vote something else. JAF1970 (talk) 20:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why would the board allow development to proceed on something they had voted against? If it's cancelled, then it will be listed as such when that information becomes available from a reliable source. --Jonah5678 (talk) 20:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why would they state Spring 2008 would be the release date for months... then issue a press release for September 2008? The release date was TBA at Spore (video game) until the press release. Civ Rev was cancelled for the Wii by Firaxis. [1]
Why? Because "CivRev was originally a 360/PS3 project and was in development for over a year before the Wii/DS platforms were added, largely because we saw the success of those platforms and a lot of people (including myself) were very excited about them," said Firaxis programmer Scott Lewis. The result was that the time and effort it would have taken to remake a game built for higher-end hardware from the ground up would simply have been too costly.
Until a Wii release date is even hinted at in a press release, it's speculation. Many a slip between cup and lip. JAF1970 (talk) 20:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]