User talk:Ntnon

Hello there Ntnon, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit How to edit a page and experiment at the sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages see the naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out the help pages or add a question to the village pump. Cheers! -- Rotem Dan 21:53 31 May 2003 (UTC)


Hi Ntnon, and welcome again. You are very likely to get in touch with some other Wikipedians very soon for the picture you just uploaded for People Like Us. Copyright problems, you know. Good idea to write about the series. Looking forward to reading your contributions, --KF 15:08 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Erg. Copyright I thought would bo OK on that.. seeing as how the BBC website said it was OK to use it in promotional repects or something... Hmm.

Not quite, the promotional context is very narrowly defined on the site. But even if it was allowed, we strongly prefer public domain or FDL images, see Wikipedia:Image use policy. No harm done, I'll remove the image right away. --Eloquence 22:12 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Ah nuts. I presume you're sure..?! I did think quite hard about it... but I can't find any other public domain images, and I thought this would easily be covered by the disclaimers on the BBC site - http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/peoplelikeus/peoplephoto.htm - 'may be used for publicity purposes..' (Although that would explain why the picture keeps vanishing...!)


OK.. how about this.. Can I upload a logo for DC Comics...? Or anything that will promote the parties involved...?


Unfortunately, the part "may only be reproduced in a newspaper, magazine or on-air for publicity purposes in connection with the showing of the program as licensed by BBC Worldwide Americas, Inc. They may not be reproduced at any other time for any other purpose without a license from BBC Worldwide Americas, Inc. " pretty much kills it for us. Wikipedia is an educational resource that does not fulfill the above definition (it is neither newspaper, magazine nor on-air, and it is not "for publicity purposes"). You may of course try sending the BBC our Wikipedia:Boilerplate request for permission, but it is unlikely that they will agree. In cases like these, the only remaining course of action is fair use, but we try to limit this to very important images of high educational value.
Logos are even thornier, because that gets us into trademark territory as well. I would advise strongly against uploading them. See Wikipedia:Copyrights for further discussion. --Eloquence 22:34 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Righty-ho! I'll e-mail the BBC, then... and cross my fingers. You'd think that any publicity would be a good thing, really...

(What about TV stills? Fully creditted things..?!) :o) Oh, and track-listings, or transcriptions of sketches..? Presumably the former, not the latter..?


I knew it. And Eloquence seems to be one of the tough guys around here. Good luck to you anyway. --KF 23:03 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)


Please use "Show preview" before saving a page. This way, if there is a problem the page will not be saved. You will be able to fix it without spamming Recent Changes and the page's history. Your constant saves to Watchmen are getting annoying; if you use "Show preview" there will be no issue. -- goatasaur

Sorry. I thought I'd got round that by going 'Back' rather than 'Edit', using the browser not the page... Hmm.. oh well. I couldn't any conclusive pages that told me how to resize pictures, so I had to guess a bit, but in future, I'll try and use 'Preview', thanks.