- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was No consensus but discussion on a repurposing needed. Complex discussion, so I'll need to write a little:
- As framed, the question is essentially whether the software is notable on its own, or whether it's its use in cryptocurrency hacking that is notable, or whether it's not notable in either form. Headcount is 10 delete versus 13 keep. The keep camp advocates on the basis of there being substantial sources, but the delete camp has rebutted that most of such sources appear to pertain to the hacking incident more than the software itself which is mentioned in passing (as GNG notes the sources need to discuss the
topic directly and in detail
) and that the only sources about the software are questionable (RoySmith, Hut 8.5 and Masem), and I don't see this argument being contested very well: Some keep !voters are trying to contest this on the grounds that the software is widely used but I don't see any guideline that would establish that this makes a software notable (WP:NSOFTWARE). There are some bare assertions that the sources satisfy GNG either on their own or in combination (the question being: is a very large amount of short/not very significant mentions sufficient to establish GNG notability?) and one barely discussed award (Pigsonthewing).
- A third option proposed by some (e.g Masem and Alfie) is to repurpose the article into being about the hack or about cryptomining in general. Only a few people have disputed this option, mainly on NOTNEWS grounds (Nyttend, Hut 8.5), most of the keep camp hasn't addressed it in detail and of the delete camp other than the aforementioned NOTNEWS point there is little opposition either. As framed the NOTNEWS point really only applies to repurposing the article into being about the hack; it doesn't apply to repurposing it into being about cryptomining but it is not as simple as a move. And to be fair, NOTNEWS seldom carries the day at AfD or so it seems to me, given that it's a very broad policy and difficult to apply to a specific deletion discussion.
- There is also a separate NPOV question as raised by Only in death and Szzuk. As for the NPOV dispute, it seems like a disagreement about how much of the article should cover which aspect, thus an editorial dispute rather than a matter for deletion.
Based on my reading, the delete argument is somewhat more compelling than the keep one but it ain't a slam dunk owing to the little discussed award (NSOFTWARE mentions such as a keep argument, although it's an essay so not a very weighty argument) and the fact that it's not clear if all the sources about the software are unusable (see Icewhiz and Masem). For repurposing, a straightforward repurposing of the article into an article about the hack is problematic owing to the NOTNEWS policy, while repurposing the article into being about cryptomining has been discussed only a little and I don't see any substantial opposition argument. My sense is that we don't have consensus for deleting this altogether but also not for plain keeping without substantial repurposing work, and it's not clear what form that work should take. So I shall close this as no consensus with a recommendation to have a repurposing discussion where NOTNEWS points and such can be hashed out. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:45, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]