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The result was delete. It's rare that I think that I need to overrule a numerical majority (15:6 per the autocount) on the basis of strength of argument, but this is such a case. The "keep" opinions are almost all variations on the theme of "anybody who is among the oldest persons is automatically notable". Howewer, our WP:BIO inclusion guidelines do not provide for an automatic assumption of notability in such cases, as they do e.g. for certain politicians. A search of the guideline talk page archives indicates that there has been repeated discussion about adding such a presumption of notability, but no proposal has ever obtained consensus. That being the case, the very solid community-wide consensus about who is (or not) presumed to be notable by virtue of some personal characteristic cannot be overruled by local consensus at this AfD (see WP:CONLEVEL), and I need to discount almost all "keep" opinions as being at odds with established guidelines. I advise those who wanted to keep this article to start a WP:RFC about whether consensus has changed and certain very old people should now presumed to be notable. Sandstein 07:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)