Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lloyd Greif

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. This was a tough one to close, and I expect this will be a contentious decision.

Numerically, this is very close. But, I find the arguments on the delete side to be much stronger. The major proponent of keeping is the article's creator and main contributor. More to the point, the arguments seen to center around how much money he has and that he's got a school named after him. I don't find those arguments convincing as I reviewed our major policy statements (WP:N, WP:GNG, etc). The best arguments show good sources. In this case, that's an article in the LA Times (which certainly is a major, reliable, newspaper) but other participants rejected that article as a good source. There were a large number of other sources identified, but other discussants didn't agree on the quality.

As a somewhat administrative note, I should mention that this AfD was very hard to read, largely due to Zigzig20s's combative style. Just make your points and move on. It's not useful to respond to every single statement, and mostly it just makes life hard on whoever has to read it all when it comes time to close the discussion. Looking at your contribution history, I see that you make 100's of edits per day, and spend many hours editing. That's great (really, we need more people with your level of dedication to the project), but please understand that sheer volume of text isn't what counts in an AfD. And please don't confuse editorial review with harassment.

-- RoySmith (talk) 11:38, 3 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]