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Delete: Very minimal coverage now in the article, does not seem to meet notability for athletes. I can't find anything about this person, there are several hits on the name [1], but none seem to be substantial at all. Oaktree b (talk) 00:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Bio stub that was moved from draft despite minimal sourcing. I can’t see any reliable independent sources so bringing here for consensus.. Mccapra (talk) 22:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: All I see is news coverage from Hindi local sources, with no significant coverage sources found. The subject fails to meet GNG. It was moved from the Draft space to the Main space because the draftification was done without consensus. Per WP:DRAFTNO, articles older than 90 days should not be draftified without discussion or consensus. GrabUp - Talk04:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. G3, hoax article with fake references. All LLM output is not slop, but this certainly was! jp×g🗯️10:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A WP:HOAX. From a few quick searches, the word "Gallocentrism" appears to refer only to a focus on France, not "an ethnocentric ideology that places a strong emphasis on the cultural, economical, historical, political and social significance of Gaul". Flounder fillet (talk) 22:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article also contains multiple references that are blatantly made up, including:
Two papers by John Smith in a nonexistent journal:
Smith, John. "Gallocentrism: Rediscovering Gaul in the 19th Century." Journal of European History, vol. 45, no. 2, 2017, pp. 189-210.
Smith, John. "Gaul and Its Legacy: An In-Depth Analysis." Journal of European History, vol. 25, no. 2, 2003, pp. 123-145.
Things published in "20XX" or "Year":
Brown, Emily. Gallocentrism in Contemporary Discourse. Journal of European Studies, vol. 45, no. 2, 20XX, pp. 123-145
Johnson, B. (Year). "Cultural Preservation in Gallo-Speaking Communities." International Journal of Linguistics, vol. A, no. B, pp. C.
Gallocentric Society. (Year). "Manifesto for the Preservation of Gallo Identity."
Speedy deleteWP:CSD#G3 (pure vandalism and blatant hoaxes). Blatant because it is easy to confirm that none of the above-listed sources exist (well, Caesar's commentaries exist, but not published in that way and not about the topic). —David Eppstein (talk) 01:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G3 on the grounds of it amounting to a hoax. It's possibly the creator of the article may have meant well and just doesn't understand that language model text generators regurgitate convincing fabrications, but whether unintentional or not it still amounts to a blatantly hoax topic. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 01:38, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. I agree with all of the above. In addition, I'd like to see the creator banned. Probably one shouldn't take user names too seriously, but in this case Jeaucques, not a normal French name, looks as if it is to be pronounced like "joke". Athel cb (talk) 09:16, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@Russ Woodroofe: Thank you for bringing to light some of these reviews. Now, each work or book should be the primary subject of multiple independent reviews and these 4 reviews are on different books. Can you find one more additional review for any of the book that you found the reviews for? Then I think, it will pass WP:NAUTHOR criteria. Please ping me if you find an additional review and I will reconsider my vote. RangersRus (talk) 02:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not my reading of AUTHOR, but in any case Russ Woodroofe's reviews 1 & 3 above are both of The Origins and Development of the Tablighi-Jamaʿat (1920–2000). A Cross-county Comparative Study. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
NAUTHOR says that a collective body of work should have been the subject of multiple reviews. If it was mainly one work, then I would !vote for a redirect to that work, but I see one book with two reviews, and two other reviewed books. This is just about the minimum that I am looking for in NAUTHOR. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 05:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I see 1 & 3 above reviews are on same book. I will change my vote to weak keep because if we remove the sources on the page that are dead and unreliable then these are the only 4 reviews that remain that can be attributed to the page. RangersRus (talk) 10:07, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteWeak Keep. All sources on the page are unreliable, dead domains, page not found and non-secondary independent. Fails WP:GNG, WP:NAUTHOR and WP:NBIO. The degree of significance of the subject and of role as writer is not enough to warrant a page on the subject. RangersRus (talk) 16:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC) but 4 reliable sources with reviews were found with one work having multiple reviews that makes the author pass WP:NAUTHOR. RangersRus (talk) 10:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Not sure why the rush to delete this. Several of the books look to have healthy citations in GS, and Russ Woodroofe has found multiple reviews. Merely having dead links on the article is not a deletion rationale. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I always make sure to preserve articles and only consider deletion after thorough investigation. I would advise other editors to follow the same approach: take your time, conduct careful research, and then provide your comments. Avoid rushing the process. Thank you--- Jannatulbaqi (talk) 12:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I've evaluated the reviews brought by Russ Woodroofe and agree they are sufficient to meet AUTHOR. Agree it is unclear whether we can count #5. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Meets WP:NAUTHOR. I changed my vote above after reviews shared by Russ Woodroofe. These 4 reviews will be the only reliable sources if we remove all the unreliable and dead links on the page. More reliable sources will be needed to attribute to the BIO of the author and other areas on the page. This is the only reason I am weakly keeping it. RangersRus (talk) 10:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
KeepWithdraw: I am very impressed by the comments and sources provided by 'Professor Russ Woodroofe' and admin 'Espresso Addict'. Therefore, I am withdrawing my nomination. Thank you very much. Jannatulbaqi (talk) 14:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But note that while TheSlumPanda's delete !vote stands, the AfD can't be closed as withdrawn. (A passing administrator might still close as a keep, as I think that a consensus may have emerged.) Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. G3, hoax article with fake references. All LLM output is not slop, but this certainly was! jp×g🗯️10:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G3 on the grounds of it amounting to a blatant hoax. It's possibly the creator of the article may have meant well and just doesn't understand that language model text generators regurgitate convincing fabrications, but whether unintentional or not it still amounts to a blatantly hoax topic. Even the sources that do actually exist did not mention or describe "Italocentrism", and I have removed those citations from the article. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 01:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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At first look, the BLP appears notable. However, by evaluating the coverage, I'm unable to locate any reference that meets GNG. The sources largely rely on tabloid journalism Norwegian publications such as Verdens Gang and Aftenbladet where sources #1, 5, 6, 7, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 19, and 20 are written by the same reporter (Rolf J. Widerøe). The rest of the sources include unreliable Pakistani publications, and spam sources such as source #17 per this which was added as an archived source. Bosecovey (talk) 20:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: This BLP meets the GNG due to the SIGCOV the subject has received. Dismissing all of this coverage as spam doesn't make sense by this newbie account and this appears to be an attempt to whitewash a BLP simply because the subject did not approve of it. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 06:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Saqib I think it fails GNG, apart from the tabloid journalism which is not suitable for BLP that you've largely relied on while creating the article, all of the sources are trivial, non-independent and unreliable and if that were the only criteria it could have been kept even back in 2019. Can you take a look at the rules for trivial, especially routine coverage or those for independence and tell me which of the sources you posted meet those?
Could you clarify as well what do you mean by simply because the subject did not approve of it.? Which subject and how do you know that the subject did not approve of it? Bosecovey (talk) 23:53, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikibear47 Could you clarify the levels you're speaking about?
I can't find any reliable source online confirming that the subject of the article has received Hilal-e-Imtiaz, even though there is no limit to the number awarded and Hilal-e-Imtiaz is not considered a significant honor at Wikipedia.
I tend to consider the source that mentioned Hilal-e-Imtiaz (The Express Tribune) a non-independent source and seems like routine covering however it didn't say that he has received the award. Bosecovey (talk) 23:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The use of a tabloid journalism source like Verdens Gang by an experienced editor raises a valid concern; however, the individual still meets the WP:GNG criteria.
@SheriffIsInTown According to Wikipedia:RSP#TabloidsThey often repeat unverified rumors, have questionable fact-checking, and are often unsuitable for information about living people. Some sources are reliable but still do not help with notability, and lack of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject and still fail GNG.
It seems that the reporter writing for Verdens Gang and Aftenbladet, who has covered this topic extensively, has a clear conflict of interest. This shouldn't raise any valid concerns I guess. Bosecovey (talk) 00:11, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Papers that are in tabloid format aren't unusable. Tabloid journalism does not equal tabloid format. I don't know much about VG, but it seems to be widely used both on enwiki and Norwegian wiki. I can't find any obvious concerns about its journalism from a brief search. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This article cites no sources. A Google search for "small castes" reveals no relevant results. I can't find any evidence anywhere that these castes were created by the occupying authorities. On the contrary, many of the castes listed here have their own articles on the wiki, and many of those articles seem to indicate a much more ancient history to those castes. The description of the Teli caste is nonsensical (oil tycoons?) and suggests that the content in this article may have been machine-translated from a non-English source. The one sourcethe article used to cite doesn't mention any of the content in the article. The content of the article is currently being included in AI-summaries for related searches, which is a concern if this information is not true. I challenge the community to either find sources for the content of this article or, if sources cannot be found, to delete it. -- LWGtalk20:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:BEFORE didn't find any sources or discussions that would establish notability. I don't see much that is worth retrieving/merging into a separate article as the article is unsourced... Shazback (talk) 04:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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While I was able to find some coverage of the subject in reliable sources (which I've added to the article), it's not enough to establish notability, and I wasn't able to find anything much more substantial (there are mentions in newspapers). The AllMusic biography ([24]) is very brief, and the AllMusic ([25]) and Exclaim! ([26]) reviews aren't particularly long (both less than 200 words). The other links in the article don't help establish notability, either (and the Punknews.org review isn't a staff review). toweli (talk) 20:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:GNG. I also don't see significant coverage about the particular band members. ~
Delete. Since any basis for notability here would be at least 20 years old, I also ran a ProQuest search to check for older coverage that wouldn't have Googled — and while I got a good number of glancing namechecks of this band's existence, mainly in concert listings and/or coverage of other bands that they toured with, I found absolutely nothing that would constitute WP:GNG-building coverage about this band. But nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to pass GNG on the sourcing: the article was obviously trying for NMUSIC #5, "has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels", but a record label that exists only as a redirect to a larger successor company whose article is still poorly sourced clearly doesn't qualify as important enough to pass that criterion — and NMUSIC explicitly states that passage of its criteria still have to be properly sourced, and nothing in it ever confers any "no sourcing required because notability claim is asserted" freebies, so even if we accepted it as a sufficiently "important" label the article would still have to be better sourced than this anyway. Bearcat (talk) 14:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. SK 2, 3 and probably also 4. Sky News (UK) and The Irish Times are normal newsorgs, no reason given why they should be considered unreliable. No prejudice against speedy renomination should anyone choose to write one that makes sense. (non-admin closure)Alpha3031 (t • c) 09:08, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep - The article needs better sourcing but a simple search in the books section has numerous sources covering several areas of the company in depth. SunnyScion (talk) 04:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: I don't find anything about a dance. This mentions a basket [27]. Tagged for over a decade and no one's worked on it, delete it and be done with it. Oaktree b (talk) 14:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Remedy Drive per nomination. Lacks significant coverage and isn't notable, like the majority of the band's albums. A lot of these articles seem to exist under the premise that Christian outlet Jesus Freak Hideout reviewing the release makes it notable—it doesn't. Ss11207:51, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Remedy Drive per nomination. Lacks significant coverage and isn't notable, like the majority of the band's albums. A lot of these articles seem to exist under the premise that Christian outlet Jesus Freak Hideout reviewing the release makes it notable—it doesn't. Ss11207:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Same issues as the podcast even if it's not quite as bad. Coverage is trivial and routine, there is nothing that meets all 4 criteria (independent, secondary, in-depth, reliable). Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would honestly say that the PinkNews article probably meets all of the criteria. It's clearly independent from Schofield, it's a secondary source for what it's talking about (her relationship with Matt Rife), it's known for being reliable, and it's relatively in-depth about the relationship between them the claims she makes about her relationship with Rife even if most of what it says specifically about her is that she's a YouTuber, hosts the Cancelled podcast, and, according to her, "has an 'outie' vagina". benǝʇᴉɯ02:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I find no independent coverage of this database. It does appear useful, but appears to be too soon to be a notable product. A BEFORE shows it's in use and blurbs about how the tool works, but it's from the tool itself.
Keep it, FactGrid was and is in a way part the official roll out of Wikibase as a common database software. The project was an official collaboration between Wikimedia and the University of Erfurt in 2018, and it is now probably the biggest Wikibase community outside Wikidata. The integration into Germany's National Research Data Infrastructure in 2023 has been the biggest move towards the institutionalization of the database. The platform is now an official recommendation for historical projects to use in Germany. It has projects in Berkeley, Barcelona, Budapest and Paris - with a 1 Million database objects and projects that participate with budgets up to € 900.000 it should no longer be a small website. --Olaf Simons (talk) 08:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah. I was the one who originally WP:BLARed the article, and I admit I probably should have responded to the contesting of the redirection and maybe dropped a note or something, but I've essentially treated it as a contested PROD and did not follow up due to personal reasons. I had more or less forgotten about it by the time I had more time. I do stand by my original assessment, and still believe a redirect is the most appropriate option. While there are some sources, the depth of coverage in independent reliable sources (reliable in a general context) is highly limited, and I do not believe it would be possible to write a standalone article of any length from mostly those sources. In fact, with the state of available sources, I don't believe we would be able to expand much more than maybe 2 or 3 times the current text at University_of_Erfurt#University_projects. While that would be 10% of the current article, I do not believe that would be excessive to the point of being proscribed by WP:DUE, especially if other parts are also expanded. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:36, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: scholarship on the subject (see EL; at least 3 articles in 3 languages), so this looks pretty notable to me, yes. (add: Celís Sánchez, M. Á. (2021). Las humanidades digitales como expresión y estudio del patrimonio digital, Ediciones de la Universidad de Castilla-La Mancha. p 194) -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)19:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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No notable wrestler. Just worked on an independent level. The article has sources, most of them are WP:ROUTINE results, others passing mentions. Looking for sources, he only has passing mentions on a few events 1HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Reviewed in Publishers Weeklyhere, a short paragraph in The New York Timeshere and a paragraph in The Timeshere. They aren't the longest, but this amount should be enough to meet NBOOK. On a side note, if the other books in the series receive similarly low amounts of coverage, it may make more sense to just merge all books into a single article for the entire series. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!06:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I could agree that this much is enough, but with the other books in the series there is the same problem, as you mentioned.
Keep: it seems obvious that reliable sources exist, and should have been located WP:BEFORE this nomination was made. Some books by this author seem to have more extensive discussions, including plot summaries (on the other hand, some predate widespread internet-available sources). But a merger of the rest into a bibliography of this author with say, a paragraph or two on each work, from which individual articles could be split out if there's enough to say about them, as there apparently is for some, is probably a good idea. A publication history and list of reviews doesn't seem like enough to justify a stand-alone article, but if you add a plot summary then there probably is, since that would be too much to cover in a bibliography. P Aculeius (talk) 13:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I have checked this whole Flavia Albia series and the problem is that almost all volumes have the same problem, i.e. the only sources are the publisher's website and the author's website. This does not meet the criteria of WP:BKCRIT. If a proper coverage for every volume cannot be found, then all volumes are not justified to remain.
If sources were so easy to find for this one the others are probably the same, just because the sources aren't in the page right now doesn't mean they don't exist. If a search is conducted in places like ProQuest and none are found then it may be an issue. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge: The author of the article added sources to the references, which can be considered acceptable enough. However, the vast majority of the other volumes in the Flavia Alba book series (which the subject of this article is part of) share the same problem mentioned in my explanation at the top of the discussion. I'm willing to change my position from delete to merge if the author of the page agrees. My reason for merging is based on: https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Wikipedia:Notability_(books)#Merging_to_broader_subjects All volumes could be transferred to the newly created article about the whole Flavia Alba series. Currently, the link to the entire series redirects to the author: https://en.wikipedia.orgview_html.php?sq=Envato&lang=en&q=Flavia_AlbiaMlody1312 (talk)
Every book by this author is likely to be reviewed in solid reliable sources, just as in this example. Merging would lose the opportunity to include the cover images, which are intelligent and interesting images but for copyright reasons can only be included in an article about an individual book. PamD22:38, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per above, there are sources. If someone wants to write an article on the series and merge them, that's an option if we decide it's better that way, but we don't have an article on the series, and it's likely that most of the books fulfill NBOOK PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/Merge : Well, if there are sources, they should be added to every volume by the author of the articles. As long as they are not added, the articles fails WP:BKCRITMlody1312 (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No: notability of a topic depends on the existence of sources, not necessarily their inclusion in the article. PamD22:33, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What I'm trying to say is that as long as you don't include the sources you are talking about in your articles, these articles remain consisting merely of an introductory paragraph (saying what is this, who published it, etc) + a very brief plot description. And this is not a properly written article. Mlody1312 (talk) 22:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mlody1312 "Wikipedia should not have a standalone article about a book if it is not possible [...] to write..." keyword being possible. If you can, given the existing sources, write an article that does not have this problem, it is fine. Unrelated to the state of the article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes because that was the only part that mattered and you had very clearly read the second half. But whatever,
"Wikipedia should not have a standalone article about a book if it is not possible, without including original research or unverifiable content, to write an article on that book that complies with the policy that Wikipedia articles should not be summary-only descriptions of works, contained in criterion 1 of WP:INDISCRIMINATE."
And note that as proposer of deletion you have already voted, so you should not include another bolded vote: I have unbolded your vote to avoid confusion. PamD22:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mlody1312: I have added 3-4 reviews to each of the volumes you have mentioned, except for the latest one, for which I only found two reviews. They aren't very long, but this amount should be enough to pass WP:BKCRIT. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!05:51, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This article has been deletedtwice, in 2012 and 2014, for being a list article with an impossible-to-define subject that consists largely of original research. As far as I can tell, this current iteration suffers from the same issues, including selection bias toward English-speaking bands (is BTS not a boy band?) and questionable sourcing.
Notably, the sales numbers are pretty universally incidental to the subject of the sourced articles. In addition, the dates of the articles range from 1995 to 2018. While that doesn't totally preclude the article from existing, it's clear to see that these numbers are not an objective current ranking of sales, and the stretch to source implies that reliable rankings of this sort aren't currently out there. At the very least, the current article is drawing conclusions not made by the sources. Thesixthstaff (talk) 18:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. What are we doing here?! All of the issues raised in prior AfDs remain. This list relies entirely on a weakly defined category and original research. Appeals to the existence of a main boy band article and its definition(s) are unconvincing. It's reasonable to have an article on an extremely well attested, if loosely defined, topic. Any concerns about the main article can be discussed on its talk page. Applying original research to create a ranking based on another article is unacceptable. --MYCETEAE 🍄🟫—talk18:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources, with one exception. On ProQuest, there is significant coverage, but it's all from a local newspaper, The Kingston Whig-Standard. The band is also merely mentioned in a few other newspapers. toweli (talk) 18:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Article states nothing about the band that would be "inherently" notable enough to exempt them from having to have more than just purely local hometown coverage. Bearcat (talk) 15:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: So much news coverage, yet no significant coverage was found, failing to meet both GNG and NPOL. If the subject gets elected as an MLA, surely this article can be recreated by anyone. If not, I will create it. However, for now, I believe keeping this article is pointless. We can also consider draftification or redirecting it to relevant targets like NCP (SP) or 2024 Maharashtra Legislative Assembly election. Let’s me know your opinions. GrabUp - Talk18:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• DeleteWP:NPOL – news coverage only comes from his relationship with Sharad Pawar, who is notable in their own right. They also aren't mentioned in Sharad's personal life section. Deuxde (talk) 11:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Subject fail criteria for notability of politician and not notable enough to stand now
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Feels like WP:NOTNEWS to me. While Liam Payne was famous, he wasn't famous to the degree that Elvis Presley, Kurt Cobain or Michael Jackson were that it would feel like having a separate page solely dedicated to his death would be warranted. What seems to me to be a good comparison would be the death of Matthew Perry , which nobody has decided warrants a standalone article. Wikipedia is supposed to be a summary of knowledge, and a lot of the detail in this article feels superflous. At 3,700 words currently, Liam Payne's article is also considerably below the 8,000 word limit where looking to split the article would be warranted, so I would support the selective merging of the content of this article back into that one. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively as the Payne article is not too long to do this. I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but the storied drug-related deaths of Keith Moon and Brian Jones don't have their own articles, heck, not even Elvis. I had a discussion on ITN about the unusualness of accidental deaths of musicians compared to murders, and I'm pretty sure that murder is about the only way that the death of a musician can truly take on a phenomenon of its own away from the artist. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively to Liam Payne, in agreement with the nominator and previous voter. His recent death was indeed tragic for his fans, but this article is unfortunately leaning toward some obsessive and unhealthy trivia. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:07, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge selectively, the impact of Payne's death is defintely palpable but nothing like that of some other major artists who have their own dedicated Death pages (eg David Bowie and Michael Jackson). There is not enough information to warrant an entire article when it equates to what would usually fit in the Death section of any standard celebrity's article. AlienChex (talk) 20:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge While it does make international headlines and a lot of discussion regarding his death, this is not notable enough I believe. Until if more details of the investigation turn up, it'll remain within Liam Payne's article. ROBLOXGamingDavid (talk) 14:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not gonna lie, this is a detailed and very well-written article, probably GA standard. Too bad I'm leaning towards merge and redirect per above. Don't really see a reason to grant a standalone article for now. Maybe if turns out that it was a murder or so like the death of Michael Jackson, until then, it's remains can be preserved. dxneo (talk) 18:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect to Liam Payne#Death - I invite the next editor who is able, to WP:SNOW close this one. Yeah, he was in a super-popular boy band, but there's nothing of substance around allegedly being intoxicated and then falling from a balcony. The death itself, while sad, isn't, probably won't end up being as widely felt as the deaths of the King of Pop or David Bowie. Google didn't crash after Liam Payne died. It's hard to find this event notable beyond the collective public grief as expected from the death of any popular figure. Can't really even condone draftifying. BarntToust12:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This is a procedural nomination by which the venue of the discussion that began at Miscellany for deletion is moved to AfD as the correct venue. At the time of my creating this AfD discussion, I have not expressed any advocacy or opinion on the matter. The MfD discussion is quoted below, including the real nomination and a single !vote:
Only one topic besides primary topic. There needs to be at least two non-primary topics per MOS:DAB.— Preceding unsigned comment added by GilaMonster536 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Weak Delete I suppose.Keep I guess. I dunno. I'm on the borderline because some tiny but non-zero number of readers will be looking for a Eugene Robinson or Jean Robinson I suppose, and that's too many to go into the Bishop's hatnote, so pointing to a disambig page serves them, otherwise they will not find a link to their desired article, possibly. Herostratus (talk) 03:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Gene Robinson (disambiguation)
Changed my mind... to expound... first of all, IMO "Gene E. Robinson" should be moved to "Gene Robinson (entymologist)". That as my opinion as people called him "Gene Robinson" without the E. I think, and I'm not a fan of the middle-initial thing when you could use paranthetical disambiguation which tells what the article is about. But either way, whatever, that is not the question here. The question is, are we going to:
Keep the bishop's hatnote as it is (pointing just to the entymologist).
Have the bishops's hatnote point to the entymologist, to Jean, and to the Eugene disambig page.
Keep the disambig page and have the bishop's hatnote point to just it.
Well... #1 gives the reader no chance to find their article if they are indeed looking for Jean or Eugene (rare but non-zero). #2 is a bit long with three entries, that last two being rare. #3 seems to fit the situation best. It is a matter of opinion, and that is mine. Herostratus (talk) 18:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Already deleted three years ago at a previous AfD. Given the source retrieval dates, and the fact that the same person created the article, it is likely that most of them are the same sources that were already considered previously.
The only main difference (and the reason why this isn't a WP:G4) is the fact that he declared his candidacy for the general election, although that in itself doesn't confer notability. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:59, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Does not meet notability for simply being a candidate. The only coverage is of strictly local matters [28] which aren't enough for notability here. Sources now used are simply confirmation of his activities as a local politician. Oaktree b (talk) 20:37, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Nothing has changed since the previous AfD. Other than the subject being a candidate (again) for the coming general election. In particular, based on the sources, the subject still doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:NPOL. The article is otherwise a recreation of the same title/content that was previously deleted (to the extent that it contains the same ref links - several of which are dead, more than a few of which only mention the subject in passing, and at least one of which doesn't appear to mention the subject at all). Guliolopez (talk) 10:37, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As always, the notability test at WP:NPOL is holding a notable office, not just running for one — so he doesn't qualify for an article just for being a candidate in an upcoming Dail election, and the local level of political office is not "inherently" notable at all, so being a councillor for a municipal district is not an automatic inclusion pass either. Municipal councillors don't get articles for existing, they get articles when they can be credibly demonstrated as special cases of markedly greater notability than the norm for that level of significance. But the referencing here is extremely overdependent on primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and purely run of the mill local coverage of the type that every municipal councillor in every municipality is routinely expected to receive, not demonstrating any credible evidence that he would be more special than other municipal councillors. Obviously no prejudice against recreation on or after election day if he wins the Dail seat, but there's no basis for permanent notability here yet as of today. Bearcat (talk) 17:07, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:BLP of a composer and record producer, not properly sourced as having a strong claim to passing WP:NMUSIC. As always, musicians are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and must meet certain specific criteria to qualify for inclusion -- but the only notability claim being attempted here is that his work exists, and the article is referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability -- mainly his work metaverifying its own existence on the self-published websites of organizations or companies that were directly affiliated with it, but also IMDb -- there's not even one piece of WP:GNG-worthy coverage about him in an independent third-party source shown at all, and absolutely nothing reliable or GNG-worthy turned up on a Google search either. Also, I strongly suspect conflict of interest, as the article was first created by a WP:SPA who created this as their first-ever Wikipedia edit and then disappeared until coming back four years later to "update" it, and has never edited any other pages on Wikipedia at all. As his career goes back more than a decade, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better access than I've got to archives of British media coverage that might not have Googled can find more than I was able to, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Appears to be a rail point on a now-abandoned C&O line. A county history doesn't mention it, and there's nothing significant there. Mangoe (talk) 15:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best coverage I could find on the town was [29], but that alone isn't sufficient for notability. Maybe could be merged to an article on the rail line, but not sure how those are typically written. Other clippings: [30]. Not totally sure there aren't better sources, so this is a provisional delete. Elli (talk | contribs) 17:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I found the name "Janney" as local landowners in some early 1900s plat maps, but see no evidence that there was ever a settlement there. ╠╣uw[talk]14:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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No refs on the page for many years. I'm not seeing much which would appear to show that the topic meets the inclusion criteria. JMWt (talk) 15:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
also to add - the account of the creator of the page was indefinitely blocked with the reason that it appeared to be a bot which was rapidly creating articles. JMWt (talk) 15:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The BLP was created in the main namespace and later draftified by Maliner. The creator then submitted it for review, but later unilaterally moved the BLP back to the main namespace, to avoid AFC review process. So I feel compelled to take this to AFD so the community can decide whether it should remain or be deleted. IMO, it fails both GNG and NAUTHOR, as none of the works are notable enough. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: Although I couldn't find sources providing significant coverage as per WP:SIGCOV, I did come across some sources that support the subject's notability, though not conclusively. These include 1, 2, 3, 4, and mentioned featured in BCC Urdu's poetic collection here. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
weak keep: The Dawn source is fine, I imagine there would be more in the several native languages mentioned. I found this [31] and [32], which seem fine. I couldn't find any reviews in Gscholar or Jstor. Oaktree b (talk) 20:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oaktree b, Whether it's critical or not isn't the point. What matters is if the source being used to establish GNG is RS and in this case, it isn't. It's just a column written by an unknown freelancer, which might be suitable for the BLP itself but does not adequately support the case for GNG. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:10, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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None of the references provide anything close to in-depth, independent, secondary coverage about Farley. Yes he has appeard on TV and has written for or been quoted in newspapers, but that's not what WP:NBIO calls for. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:12, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am the subject of this article and absolutely appreciate the importance of adhering to Wikipedia’s standards for verifiability, notability, and neutrality.
I am consistently consulted and featured on national and local American television networks; global television outlets; radio stations; in newspapers; magazines; and on podcasts on all aspects of modern manners and contemporary, societal etiquette. I began this work in 2000 and for more than two decades now, my name, likeness and commentary appear with regular frequency in outlets that are broadcast to millions of viewers and listeners.
I only learned of this deletion discussion after being approached by several external parties offering paid services to influence the outcome. I have ignored those emails, choosing instead to engage with the community here, according to Wikipedia’s established guidelines.
For those who have legitimate concerns about the page as it stands, I do hope the community can offer further specific guidance on how the article can be improved—and what my role in that improvement would correctly be.
In my research for how to weigh in appropriately on this discussion, one of the things that has impressed me most is the community’s sincere focus on being respectful of others. In that spirit, I truly appreciate your consideration and welcome your assistance to bolster the page in ways you deem necessary.
I would like to support keeping this article as I think it's likely you're notable since you have appeared many times in print and broadcast media. However, in the searches for sources I've done, I've found only articles that quote you. These articles have minimal biographical coverage of you (at most just a sentence or two). On that basis, I cannot support retaining the article yet. The topic needs to pass Wikipedia's "general notability guideline", which says:
A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
Are there any independent reliable sources that provide significant biographical coverage about you? Sources that largely quote you do not count. Please read the guideline Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. This essay is also useful as it provides a good summary of what sources will contribute to notability. See also my contribution at another deletion discussion for an example of how I supported keeping another biography.
As the article's subject, you are best placed to locate reliable sources that have profiled you. If you can find at least two independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of you (and are not just interviews), then I will support keeping this article. If no such sources can be found, the Wikipedia policy-based outcome is deletion of this article. My hope is sources can found. Thank you very much for your help! Cunard (talk) 09:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete unless substantive independent coverage is found, in which case I'll reconsider my vote. Based on a google translate review of the sources identified above:
I'm all in on the message that people should be capable of doing native language searches, but what turns up has to qualify for notability and in my opinion none of these sources meet the requirements of SIRS. Oblivy (talk) 01:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment: Did this show actually air at all? The article appears to have been uncited since it was created in 2005 and a brief search for verifiability turned up nothing. Let'srun (talk) 18:31, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!07:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep or Merge — Several RS articles written about tornadic research this year: [44][45][46][47][48][49][50][51][52][53][54][55][56][57][58][59][60][61][62][63][64][65][66][67]. Several lists are similar to this one including 2024 in climate change. Key to note, this article is a split from a parent article, History of tornado research. The 2024 article is nearly half the size of the parent article. So no matter what, deletion should never have been proposed, given it is a split-off article from the parent article…a merge proposal would have been better either into the parent history article or Tornadoes of 2024, which has a research section linking to this article as the “main”. That said, I think it has clearly enough RS and peer-reviewed secondary sources to back up notability. If consensus was falling more in line with a merge or deletion, I would support a merge over deletion. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page)06:01, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This article looks like someone typed "tornado" into Web of Science, with "2024" as the publication year, and wrote a brief summary of the abstract of every single paper that came up. Completely indiscriminate collection of routine, incremental research findings that nowhere is discussed in the aggregate as a particularly notable topic. As for it being spun off from History of tornado research, it never should have been put in that article in the first place. Wikipedia is supposed to summarize the world's knowledge, not archive the world's press releases and abstracts. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:18, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Relisting. There are very different opinions on what should happen with this article and its content so I'm giving this discussion more time in hopes of achieving a clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!05:33, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to History of tornado research. This article meets at least two criteria for WP:LISTCRUFT (#1 and #2). At best, it can be trimmed and some of the information merged into the other article. Keeping it would invite an article for 2025 and 2026 and 2027 ad infinitum. Such articles are not needed as WP:STANDALONE - expanding the original article will be enough. DesiMoore (talk) 15:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: There still isn't a clear outcome from this discussion as of yet. I'm relisting this for perhaps more input into this discussion and a more clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ TailsWx05:05, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to History of tornado research - I don't think the subject meets WP:GNG on its own. That is, we would need significant, independent coverage of tornado research in 2024. However, it's a perfectly valid page split; it should be merged back to History of tornado research where, if after considerations of WP:DUE (focusing on secondary coverage of research rather than primary research results), it could be split again in the future. Suriname0 (talk) 19:37, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Draftify. Closing this as Draftify as this is the consensus but Ldm1954 is correct, if an interested editor doesn't take this article on as a project, this article will just end up being deleted in 6 months. LizRead!Talk!04:48, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify per above discussion. It’s potentially notable, but until someone fixes both (1) the sources and (2) the poor quality writing, it’s not ready for prime time. Bearian (talk) 03:23, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment since this article was created in 2012 by an editor who has done nothing since, I think just draftifying is problematic. To @Pjjim, SerenityFF43, and PragyaanRover: can one or more of you volunteer to fix this if it is converted to a draft? Ldm1954 (talk) 11:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. I cannot find any reliable, published sources documenting the existence of this game. The best I can find is a random TV Tropes article (as you probably know, TV Tropes has far less strict policies on "notability" than Wikipedia).
Delete, the article was published before too the same day but I moved it to a draft as it had no sources and to give the creator of the article time to establish if it has potential merit, however I haven't seen any other sources confirming its a game notable of having a page and as he re-published it I simply don't see any arguments for keeping this article. BastianMAT (talk) 07:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Save. There are certainly sources that prove existence of this game.
For example official page of the creator, Sushi Yuushi Toro: https://ci-en.dlsite.com/creator/6414 which is publishing games under the name "Eeny Meeny Miny Moe?" or "Iniminimanimo?" as the google translator suggests.
There are also multiply links to his games and social media.
Hi. Please take a look at WP:GNG and submit the best THREE sources for us to consider. Some of the ones that you've presented above don't seem reliable, looking at just the domain names (e.g. "blog" in url). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! Very well, I believe these three are the most reliable.
No, these aren't the sort of sources Wikipedia deems usable for proving notable. We want sources from professional publications, not blogging websites where anyone can join and write. Retails listings don't help either. Think more like content from staff writers at your IGNs and your GameSpot websites. WP:VG/S has many good examples. Sergecross73msg me11:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zxcvbnm I think @OMGMLGPROGAMER is a bit of an overenthusiastic fan...which is, honestly, fine, but I also think they are intending to building an encyclopedia.
Indeed, I'd gladly contribute to the Wikipedia by making an article about something I know too well. Even though this is not my article, I feel quite passionate about it. Feeling that this article will be deleted, I'll try to create my own about this subject, even though it will be quite challenging without references to the YouTube as it seems, hmm... but at least I have a little idea of what to do. Thank you very much! OMGMLGPROGAMER (talk) 16:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OMGMLGPROGAMER, you're encouraged to write articles better than the any that have been deleted. But I encourage you to create and improve them in Draft space and submit themt to WP:AFC for review by an experienced editor. Too many new content creators put their articles directly into the main space where they are then subject to deletion discussions like this one. User and Draft space can be a safe space to work out the kinks in a newly formed article. LizRead!Talk!01:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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It's a horrific thing to contemplate that a road accident killing 55 anywhere in the world wouldn't be notable. We've got little to go on, there are news reports but little ongoing coverage. That said, I don't read Arabic, it seems likely that there would be sustained non-English coverage. I'm going to say unsure in that I would hope that there was more than I'm seeing. JMWt (talk) 09:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete – (Revised vote) – Borderline in my opinion. I've found some "detailed" coverage dating back to 2008 plus one in 2013, however, the lack of actual sustainedcontinued coverage post-2009, and the lack of demonstrable lasting effects are enough for me to vote delete, albeit a weak one. As WP:EVENTCRIT#4 says, routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event also lacks. Sources found:[1][2][3][4]Aviationwikiflight (talk) 10:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
References
^"كارثة جديدة تتعرض لها مصر" [A new disaster is facing Egypt]. Al Fajr (in Arabic). Turess. 17 December 2008. Archived from the original on 25 July 2013. Retrieved 19 October 2024.
Just out of interest, what work would you suggest (or, indeed, perform yourself)? Did you look at any available sources or evaluate the current sourcing of the article? Would you recommend any sources to add to it? And if so, what sources would you recommend for consideration? Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
•Keep As said above by @SirBrahms Article does need some work, but 55 fatalities is notable and should stay as an article even if there are no reliable or good sources. I'm sure this article could be saved and increased to a good grade if we put in some work. @ThebiguglyalienLolzer3k17:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The quality of sourcing for a single event with no enduring influence does not address WP:LASTING "An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable." and therefore we have a report of a single incident which is where we fail WP:NOTNEWS. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of traffic collisions (2000–present) per WP:ATD and WP:CHEAP. The notability has been established above and I would have definitely supported a keep if the article was long enough. It isn't. In it's CURRENT form this is an unjustified SPINOFF. We do not need an article on each accident. Only if these are notable enough (✅) and we happen to write enough on the accident (❌). No objection to draftication, if someone wants to work on this later. Do ping me if expanded before this AfD ends! gidonb (talk) 04:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete The statement "Takala was elected chairman of Minnesota's Pine County Republicans at the age of 18. He was re-elected in 2009 with 60% of the vote, and again in 2011" looks promising except that it is without citation. Subject does not meet the notability of a politician and it fails WP:GNGTesleemah (talk) 13:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The notability test for politicians is holding a notable political office, not just standing as an unsuccessful candidate for one, so there's no basis for notability as a politician here — and the notability test for journalists is not passed by referencing their journalism career to sources where they're the bylined author of coverage about other things, it's passed by referencing their journalism career to sources where they're the subject of coverage and analysis written by other people. (And even worse, most of the "journalism" sourcing isn't even leading me to articles he wrote, either: it's leading me to either photographs of politicians who aren't Rudy Takala or articles written by somebody else, not articles by or about Rudy Takala.) So there's no basis for notability as a journalist shown here either. Bearcat (talk) 17:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I suppose... Either way is fine really. I think our de facto standard for films is "it exists (or did)". There are a number of film articles that have less than info than this in them I think. And the director is bluelinked... on the other hand, it looks like he shouldn't be. And it is only 52 minutes... not a short film, but is that long enough for a feature film? If it had a serious release in a serious number of commercial theaters I would probably change my mind. But there's no indication of that, and it seems doubtful. Herostratus (talk) 03:19, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per WP:NACADEMIC. This article establishes him as the only oncologist at the Uganda Cancer Institute in 2004. And is now director of the UVRI. Both of which have close relationships with other high standing research institutions (e.g. World Health Org). I would say this falls under WP:NACADEMIC#C5. He also received a lifetime recognition award at a scientific conference giving support to other NACADEMIC points. He also has decent citations on papers based on a quick glance, particularly for someone working in a smaller country. I'll see what else I can pull up for sources. Cyanochic (talk) 03:26, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I'm generally in agreement that the head of a research institute is the equivalent of a professorship. I think one has to consider the context of Uganda and the bias it would show if a page on a senior scientist/academic was removed simply because they worked their career in Uganda. JMWt (talk) 19:32, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I agree with the analysis of JMWt & Cyanochic. Also, even excluding a couple of heavily coauthored Marburg papers where I doubt Katongole-Mbidde was a major contributor, GS citations[68] look healthy with top citations 265,234, and five more above 100. (Some of these date back to the 1970s and early 1980s when citation frequency was much lower.) ETA He also publishes as "Edward Mbidde" and "EK Mbidde". ETA2. I've also found several sources on WL which refer to him being quoted as the expert on HIV clinical trials in Uganda by David Satcher & Harold Varmus in a well-known NEJM opinion paper of 1997 which I don't think is free to access (Varmus H, Satchef D. Ethical complexities of conducting research in developing countries. N Engl J Med. 1997;337:1003-1005). Espresso Addict (talk) 07:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Interview from 1996 with a couple of sentences of bio: [69] which confirms he's director of the Uganda Cancer Institute, calls him "one of Uganda’s foremost AIDS researchers", "chair of the research subcommittee of the Uganda National AIDS Committee" and an "international authority on HIV vaccine research". Espresso Addict (talk) 09:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Articles like Bikku Bitti have used peakbagger and summitpost blogs as a source, so what's the difference with this article? Any highest point of a sovereign nation should have its article on Wikipedia or at least be mentioned. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 11:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes people like Eric or Ginge are the only source of information on peaks like this. Allowing one highpointer's firsthand information (like Ginge on Bikku Bitti) but not allowing Eric's on Felo Barkere seems strange and inconsistent by WP policy. Also, peakbagger has extensively been used as a source for minor mountains (which Felo Barkere would fall under), so what is the sudden change against this? Also, peaks promoted to the main database on peakbagger are looked over and verified by administrators, so some "child sitting on his dad's shoulder" won't be messing up the measurement by 5-6 feet on a peak in the main database as much of the data comes from professionally done surveys. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 11:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing up Bikku Bitti. I've cleared out totally unacceptable low quality diary/blog, which appears to have been added over a decade ago. As you look at different articles, you will sometimes find articles written over a decade ago that is chock full of complete trash and ad articles that look like a press release written entirely off of company site. On less lower traffic article that sort of things tend to happen. When you find contents written based on personal website, first see if the site cites a reliable source that meets WP:RS standards. If it does, replace it with that source. If not, I personally encourage removing contents based on some anecdotal evidence. Pruning low quality information is part of improving Wikipedia. If there's trash all over both sides of the road and someone cleans up one side, you can go ahead and clean the other side. Graywalls (talk) 03:39, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and by delete I probably mean redirect somewhere. I think I'm very permissive when it comes to geographical place names, but I don't see anything here which passes WP:NGEO's permissive rule of provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. The only other Wikipedia which even mentions it that I could find is Czech, which calls it "nameless hill." It's clearly more than a hill, but I can't find anything to add to the article. SportingFlyerT·C00:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Could you point us to just one reliably published secondary source linking the term "Felo Barkere" to Senegal or Baunez Ridge? I did find Worldatlas linking Baunez Ridge to Senegal as the highest point. Without a reliable source linking "Felo Barkere" to these, it would be inappropriate to re-direct this to Senegal, as it is to re-direct this to say... elephant or zebra. Graywalls (talk) 04:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: to allow time to find a RS to justify the redirect Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, StarMississippi01:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. CIA Factbook [70] says the highest point in Senegal is unamed so conflicting with "Felo Barkere". Barkere is apparently a village in Guinea so it's questionable the peak has this name in Senegal. This website just calls it "Senegal High Point" [71] and is 10 metres higher than stated in the article. Agree with the nominator's comments and reasoning. As it stands there's basically a single source for this name, so notability not established and it would be wrong to redirect to the Geography of Senegal page under this article's title. So, unless further reliable sources found to back up Felo Barkere, I'm inclined to delete. Rupples (talk) 03:51, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I'm not seeing a way to WP:V so it doesn't feel like there is an ATD. Maybe sources exist in a format we can't access, so this might change in the future and the page can be resurrected. JMWt (talk) 19:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. If an editor wants to work on this article in Draft space, contact me or ask at WP:REFUND. Know that you will have to submit the article to WP:AFC for an editorial review. LizRead!Talk!23:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify or Delete: The sections Products, Awards and accolades, Services and Community contribution definitely have to be either rewritten (to avoid promotional material) or deleted outright. The rest of the article can be kept (especially if it can be unorphaned). Regards, SirBrahms (talk) 08:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest trying to remove material that could be considered promotional first, and then making efforts to link this article in relevant pages (unorphan). I hope this helps set you on the right track to improving it. Regards, SirBrahms (talk) 20:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draft - I'm not seeing enough here to meet the GNG, although it might be close if there was more time to draft and improve with better sources. JMWt (talk) 19:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy keep. I take the nominator arguing to Keep this article as an informal withdrawal. Since there are no editors arguing to Delete, I'm closing this AFD discussion. LizRead!Talk!23:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The CricInfo reference has links to 24 articles in which he is tagged. I've not looked at any of them to see if there's a tonne of detail or not, but this would be a good starting point. It's certainly fair to argue that sources exist, and that more are likely to exist offline and not in English Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The articles are game logs and contain only passing mentions like "Opening bowler Fahad Masood snapped up 4 for 40" or "followed by key strikes from Fahad Masood." The fact that a player participated in a match and appeared in the match logs doesn't make the player notable. However, the achievements posted by Gheus above, do (my opinion). I added the information to the page and now I vote to keep. Warmonger123 (talk) 15:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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