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Reason
Here's an underrepresented subject at FPC: professional wrestling. I was surprised to find this image when I was reading up on this year's Wrestlemania, and joy of all joys, it cleaned up really well. This has EV for both the wrestler (Seth Rollins) and a type of match (Money in the Bank ladder match). All in all, a very encyclopedic image.
Support, this is actually an image I feel can be supported for feature status. It might need some work, but I feel we lean far too much towards the highbrow and this is an FA image in the overall. Thoughts?--Mark Miller (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Quite inclined to agree. Support. Not perfect, but for an underrepresented subject that, by its nature, has difficult lighting, I think it's well over the bar. Adam Cuerden(talk)03:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - per all of the above. It feels a little soft in places, but given the venue, probably difficult to avoid.--Godot13 (talk) 05:44, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality image of an important political, religious figure of 20th century Korea. I know that it doesn't quite meet the size requirements, but I just think that this is such a spectacular image that really captures something of this man's character. Plus, the width is barely under 1500.
Oppose - Date on the file page is wrong (Ham died in 1989; information template says this image was taken in 2008). Several stains. Curved black border, suggests to me this was scanned from a print source (rather than a negative). Also, not sure of the copyright status: source website says "All rights reserved". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:47, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes but that one was placed under the Artwork category, while I'm nominating this one for the Royalty and Nobility category. There are also two images of Elizabeth I in there. Plus, I definitely think that Qianlong was a major enough figure in both Chinese and world history to warrant another image. – Blorgy555 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:08, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose Nice picture, but with almost 60% of the picture being sky (albeit a very pretty sky), I cannot support this on the ground of EV for it's intended subject ie the city... However, not a full Oppose as the clarity and virticals seem to be in order... Maybe fine for a Commons picture (from what I understand of the MO for Commons) but here we are more focused on EV... gazhiley11:29, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Generally agree w/gazhiley. OTOH it's an interesting shot aesthetically and it offers pretty good detail of main gate (if that's what it is). Maybe some cropping? Sca (talk) 12:52, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with the above, but my main reason for the objection is the whole picture seems to be on a slant to the left - use the structure in the middle as your guide - use the top part of the tower, and the various corner decorations as you progress vertically down the buidling... At full res on my machine there's quite a huge lean to the left... There also appears to be a soft focus across elements of the picture I would expect to be sharp with a file this size... Finally, I would have thought the corner tower should be central to the picture - off to the left slightly just makes this seem inbalanced to me... Bags of potential, but unfortunately seems to miss the mark for me... gazhiley11:26, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – Per previous two comments – plus corner-on shots of large rectangular structures tend to exaggerate perspective. Sca (talk) 12:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Agree that the content of the painting is pretty blah, but the quality of the scan is very good and has good EV. Mattximus (talk) 13:33, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Not sure I see the EV; al-Qazwini wasn't the artist, and he isn't depicted. The work mentioned in the caption here gets two lines, and I don't really see this (much later) illustration helping educate the reader. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:30, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose No context about what we are looking at - for all we know this could be actually be looking down from some form of high up viewpoint... Not keen on such a close up picture - would be better taken further back so we can see more of the wall and also floor and ceiling in one shot... For evidence of how this should/could be done, see any of Diliff's pictures... gazhiley11:49, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There is a clear text under the photo in which we can see about what we are looking at, wall and ceiling. This picture is featuring cell and wall together and it is actually artistic. what do you exactly want me to explain about building? I thing your words are sort of split hairs. Alborzagros (talk) 06:51, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
While I can't speak for the rest Alborzagros, my personal issue is that if I saw this on the front page I wouldn't know what it is without reading the description, and therefore there's no "wow" factor that is so often mentioned in this process... And again, it's a bit of an odd composition for the interior of a religious building - especially when you compare it (as I mentioned above) to other FPs of religious buildings... It doesn't attract me to want to look at the article because my brain can't immediately tell what it is, and therefore if it was on the front page of wiki I'd keep scrolling... Not gonna support something that I wouldn't look at if it was on the front page... gazhiley10:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - These, one would assume, are still copyrighted in Iran. As such, they should be hosted locally, with a note that they are not copyrighted in the US as Iran has no copyright relations with the US. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was under the impression that the WMF's position was that we should respect Iranian copyright, even if the US government does not. Josh Milburn (talk) 11:23, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That it is, but that would apply to Commons. The English Wikipedia only requires that images be free in the US. (And yes, this has been a point of contention before). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:25, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – I'd like to see the article on the painting expanded a little more but it is sufficient to scrape through on EV; the scan of this interesting painting is also acceptable. SagaciousPhil - Chat16:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wide panorama adds EV for observatory as it gives an idea on observation conditions and location. Solid resolution, nice lighting. Brandmeistertalk21:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Taken a while for me to vote on this as borderline for me - because of the size of the file means when I try to view it it zooms in so close I can't really see what I'm looking at, and at full zoom out it's just a thin detail-less line... But at this size it's nice enough... And can't really complain at it having 'too much' detail I suppose... gazhiley10:34, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality image of an exemplary painting from a highly significant artist in Chinese history. One of my favorite paintings. I know the image is below the size requirement, but considering that the painting is 27.4 cm × 43.1 cm, I think this requirement should be waived. On my screen, the image actually comes out to be slightly larger than the actual physical painting.
Oppose - Beauty Revealed is 6.7 cm × 8 cm (2.6 in × 3.1 in) but has a resolution of 4,966 × 4,234 px resolution. Sorrow is 44.5 × 27 cm (17.5 × 10.6 in), with a resolution of 2,336 × 3,691 px. Joseph and Potiphar's Wife is 9.1 cm (3.6 in) × 11.4 cm (4.5 in), with a resolution of 4,078 × 3,266 px. More is definitely possible. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Nice painting, but it is below the minimum resolution. If it was destroyed I would support, but since it isn't I'm sure a higher quality scan of this image is possible. Mattximus (talk) 22:49, 25 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality image of an important monument in North Korea. I think that the people bowing to the statues adds to the EV in this case. There is another good image of these statues without any people, but I prefer this one.
Comment - Copyright wise, the statues are fine (there's FOP in N. Korea). It's a damned shame the quality isn't up to par. Lots of JPG artefacting and posterization. The composition itself is good. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:25, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
What about the other one I linked to in the Reason? I don't think it's as interesting a photo but it's still good. – Blorgy555 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 02:01, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support I agree there's problems, but given North Korea allows so few people in, I think it's worth waiving this one through on rarity grounds. Adam Cuerden(talk)19:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Per Adam. Astounding tableau – tells you all you need to know about DPRK. I like the perspective & stark context of the nominated shot better than the pic at right. Sca (talk) 14:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support - The rareness of this shot does give it some wiggle room, but I'm not convinced that nobody could bring a decent camera into the country. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:38, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support (Full disclosure: I took this photo.) Although I agree with the criticism regarding technical qualities, I'm quite happy with the photo. The restrictions on what kind of camera you can bring keeps softening up, but at the time I took this photo, I used the best camera I dared to bring, based on the rules at the time. Also, you're given very little time to set up your photo, and catching a group bowing to the leader is a matter of pure luck. You can't just wait around for another group to arrive. I also like that it's a small group, because that's the most realistic setting. There are a lot fewer visitors to these sites than most people imagine, except on special occasions. Also, while the other photo shown here is a good one, it shows how the site looked previously (pre-2013), while the nominated photo shows the current look of it. They changed the outfit of Kim Jung-il to the new anorak in 2013, because that's what he usually was wearing, apparently. uspn (talk) 19:51, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, uspn. It's a great shot – almost iconic, to reuse an over-used word. Tells the story better than 1,000 words could. Sca (talk) 23:49, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
We weren't allowed to go any closer to the statues than the bowing people you see in the photo, and only briefly. We were also not allowed to zoom in on the statues. One theory is that although the statues are claimed to be bronze, they are actually just bronze-coloured plastics. Supporting that theory is how quickly they were able to completely remodel/redress one of the statues in 2013. I suppose a good zoom-in on some parts of the statues might disclose that. I did not become aware of this theory until I returned home, and this was on just my second day in the country, so I was not feeling like "stealing" some full-zoom shots of the "seams" of the statue, but it would be interesting if someone else did! uspn (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
USPN, I've got a question: what format were you saving your files as on the camera? Large/fine (not sure of the term used with the DSC-HX100V), or...? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:09, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's a fairly basic camera, but I used the highest resolution available in Fine JPEG mode, which is as much as I can get out of it. It's got more zoom than actually is allowed to bring into North Korea, but I took the chance because the camera looks more "innocent" than a DSLR does. To be granted a tourist visa, you must declare that you are not a "professional photographer" and that you won't bring "professional equipment", but those terms aren't that closely defined. The exception is of course when North Korea specifically invites professionals to come. I think that very few of those who are invited are likely to donate their photos to the Commons, unfortunately. uspn (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Which is the current statue? Compare the two pictures here and the one on the left (our right) has changed... gazhiley10:24, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
By golly, you and Blorgy555 are right – Kim Jong Il got a different coat some time in the intervening two years! (Guess it's more casual-looking, i.e. more proletarian?) Another reason to support this nom. Sca (talk) 14:03, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support While the technical standards could be better, it seems unlikely that we'll get a higher-quality image any time soon and the very strong (but horrific) EV more than makes up for this. A slightly tighter crop might be worth considering. Nick-D (talk) 10:58, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Meh, ok fair enough... Never noticed that being discussed, would have def given my support to change - I hate un-explained votes... Don't see the point in them personally... Opens the door wide to sock voting and false votes... But anyways, that's a conversation for another day... gazhiley07:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I support because it doesn't invite lots of argument (I'm lazy so I tend to follow the tide which doesn't invite lots of argument). But as you tagged me, so here are the reasons for my support: 1) Very rare pic with a free license so I consider one of wikipedia's best work 2) follow relevant req like size, clear in full screen 3) has significant encyclopedic value in the article in which it appears and 4) I like to see this in wikipedia homepage. Godhulii 1985 (talk) 18:27, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Question - Who was the original photographer for these works? Also, I think the photographer missed the focus in the Wilbur Wright image. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:43, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Reply - Fixed attribution. Added an alternate set. Wilber Wright image is soft, but a better portrait is unlikely and the encyclopedic value is high. Excluding scientists and NASA crew, we have very few engineers. These two are prominent. Bammesk (talk) 01:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect to Janke, looking at [5], [6], [7], [8], [9] softness is not a sufficient criteria for opposing historic images. Wilber image is in par with many others, when viewed at the same magnification. Even if it wasn't, softness is not an overriding criteria. As far as the two images being "too different to form a set", after rethinking it, this is an encyclopedia, not a magazine or a photo book. There is no editorial luxury here to redo historic images, so I am withdrawing the "alternate set". The two images are a set in as much as the two subjects are a set. As far as any display related issues, Template CSS image crop allays that. Bammesk (talk) 05:45, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose alt - I'm not happy with the idea of changing a picture away from its natural state in such a way that kills a lot of the visibility of the detail, and crops a large part out. Adam Cuerden(talk)06:55, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This will not fully address Adam's concern, but for the "alternate set" we can replace Wilber's image with one that is cropped as shown (from the "original set"), without manipulation.Bammesk (talk) 01:11, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support in principle, though I wonder why this particular plate was chosen. Stielers is a wonderful cartographic and historical resource, beautifully executed with lavish detail. (I have this one matted & framed as a kind of souvenir of my Baltic adventures.) Sca (talk) 13:52, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and Speedy Close - The issues raised at the last two nominations have yet to be dealt with. If this continues, I'll move for a topic ban or something. This is getting disruptive. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. My main issue with this picture is the unfortunate positioning of microphone shadow on her chin. At first, it is not very obvious (to me at least) what this dark shape even is. 86.152.163.37 (talk) 02:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support for technical difficulty in not just lighting, but also getting a pose that doesn't look odd mid-note... I will be honest though and admit that part of my support is based on being totally mesmorised by this vision of beauty on Saturday while watching... Oh, and I am a Eurovision obsessive... However, enough of my vote is for the technical and EV element of this for me to support with the right intentions! gazhiley14:43, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Question - Does anyone object to me cropping to the border? The empty white space doesn't add anything, and the photograph already has empty space to form a border. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The DoF on the topside of the doll feels pretty good, the bottom feels a bit soft in comparison (particularly where the bottom edge meets the background). Something felt off or incomplete at first- I couldn't initially figure out if the eyes were cut out or blank (even though there is some difference between the two whites). Would a completed-eyes example be more compelling? Or, rather, would it have more or less EV than the blank eyes?--Godot13 (talk) 02:35, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I'd rather have it without the eyes filled in; darumas are received/bought without filled in eyes, and so that would (for my purposes) be their "original" state. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:40, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – Good capture of the aircraft, but I don't see how it adds significantly to the EV of the 10 other shots of A380s taking off or landing at Airbus A380. (That article would be improved by deleting a few of them, IMO. Overkill.) Sca (talk) 13:50, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
From the article: "As of April 2015, Emirates is the largest operator of the type with 59 aircraft in active service"; that's one good piece of EV. Second is the fact that many of the images are very poor. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that there are more photos in the article than necessary. I'm not convinced though, naturally, that this one would be the first that should be removed. In my opinion, it's both relevant (as illustrated by Chris Woodrich) and of higher quality than most other photos in the article. I'm not very familiar with the arguments concerning this on EN:FPC as this is my first nomination, so I'll have to trust your judgement concerning the way this should be held against the nomination. — Julian H.✈ (talk) 10:38, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Samək, please note that instructions above say, "Write Oppose, followed by your reasoning, if you disapprove of the picture." Thanks. Sca (talk) 14:56, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
[Addendum: Amazed I didn't EC with Sca on this]. Why? Per the guidelines, "All objections should be accompanied by a specific rationale that, if addressed, would make you support the image." — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent Clarity, soooo pretty, and I agree the EV is in the branding as much as the aircraft itself... gazhiley15:33, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Okay, I withdraw my oppose above, as it is a good shot technically. If it's promoted here, suggest it be moved up from the bottom of the Airbus A380 page and some of the lesser-quality duplicative pix deleted. Sca (talk) 15:08, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
yeah I get what ur saying - I meant in terms of whoever monitors that page has it a particular way, so if we went in and started to rearrange it would that not tread on toes? Maybe not "authority" so much Sca - maybe "gravitas" ie can we say to whoever runs that page that "we agreed as part of the FP process that this should be moved, therefore it stays moved"... Or maybe I've got a lot to learn about how this site works! haha just too paranoid about causing offence I guess... gazhiley13:47, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if someone disagrees with what you do, that's when you discuss issues with them. In terms of objective technical quality of photos, that shouldn't be a problem. Sca (talk) 14:38, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality, high EV, good condition. During Operation Weserübung (the German World War II invasion of Denmark and Norway in April, 1940), the Faroe Islands were temporarily cut off from the Danish National Bank (their currency issuing institution). At first specially stamped Danish notes were circulated, but in October 1940 new notes were locally printed “on behalf of the National Bank of Denmark.”
Withdraw--While Commons guidelines indicate that the reproduction of Danish National Banknotes is not allowed, the Danish National Bankdoes permit reproduction under specific circumstances. The size/quality of the present image exceeds what is allowed. Once this FPC is closed, I will nominate the file for deletion. --Godot13 (talk) 20:21, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good quality... Shame about the weather being quite so cloudy, but all details clear so can't see any reason not to support... gazhiley09:51, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't the alt already featured? Anyway, the original image is good, but probably not sufficiently different to justify featuring it when the existing FP is already there and much better. Ðiliff«»(Talk)19:35, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I think the two pictures are different enough to justify featuring it. The existing FP shows the action from which the bird gets its nickname and the new one shows the colors of the feathers and the bill up close and brilliantly. CorinneSD (talk) 03:03, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - But I do think that the scale should be labelled on the image itself. Specifically "1 cm", which I believe is the form taken in most non-English countries anyway. You will see "1 cm" even in China. Mattximus (talk) 18:50, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It may be common, but it's not universal. The Japanese film 5 Centimeters per Second, for instance, was written "秒速5センチメートル" in Kanji. Our article on centimetres in Arabic doesn't use the "CM" abbreviation. Since this is JPG, and the text is not as easily replaceable as in SVG, I decided to avoid using any numbers or text on the image itself. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:34, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, I don't know much about Arabic, but I am eating a Japanese candy right now and the box is written entirely in Kanji, but all the units are in SI, including kcal and g. I'm almost certain they are all tought SI units in school. But you are right, I can't prove it's universal of course. Mattximus (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And the image is not meant solely for the English Wikipedia. Also, we've previously promoted images that didn't have a scale at all; would you rather I did that? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To YT an unlabeled scale poses more of a question than an answer. But whatever – it's your pic. (How about sending me a few salaks ... er, salaki?) Sca (talk) 15:44, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Which would only be a problem if the scale information wasn't in the information template. I don't know what the export laws are like. This blog post suggests nobody's importing them in the US — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:47, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's straightforward to work out what the scale indicates and, as Chris pointed out, it is included in the template, so I don't feel it's necessary. SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC) Clarify - I don't think it's necessary to include the units is what I meant to say ... SagaciousPhil - Chat17:54, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's at all straightforward to work it out. In fact, I think, with no legend, the "dual scale" is downright confusing. I can't envisage any situation, in any language context, where having the scale labelled "1 cm" would be worse than the present unabelled situation. And anyone with even the smallest graphical skills could replace the text if they really wanted to. 81.132.192.73 (talk) 13:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
... and as well as being confusing, the omission of a label on the scale also looks like an error or oversight rather than a deliberate choice. I don't think people would expect such an omission to be done on purpose because it seems so unhelpful. 81.132.192.73 (talk) 01:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Interesting detail. Could be cropped a bit from bottom & top (esp. bottom), as (blurry) white material, though a good backdrop, doesn't add visual info. Sca (talk) 13:29, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Very high technical standard, high resolution image, gives insight into the complexity of cells (this is the network formed by just one of the cell's cytoskeletal proteins) aesthetically pleasing, has scale and metadata.
Question I used to make pictures like these! Yours is much better than my best. I'm just wondering about the colours. Presumably you used a single fluorescent protein, so what exactly are the colours showing? Are the red higher in the z-stack and purple lower? Mattximus (talk) 02:37, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Mattximus: Thanks, yeah I used phalloidin (it would have conjugated to a 488 fluorophore) and took images every 80nm from the bottom to the top to get what the filament distribution is like in the whole cell. To show it in 2D I've depth coded it then merged it so each slice in 'z' is a slightly different colour allowing you to see where abouts the filaments are with regards to the cell height. If you look closely at the full resolution image you'll see that there is posterization in some places, this is intentionally left as thats where one slice ends and the next begins. I took this on an inverted microscope, the orange/red is at the cell base (what was attached to the coverslip) and the purple is at the very top of the cell. Methylated603 (talk) 05:20, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support But please add it to the "Nightmarish chicken monster" article (I'm definitely not eating cheese before I go to bed tonight or that will be chasing me through my dreams) Belle (talk) 14:28, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To a non-bagpipe fan, two-paragraph article implies relative obscurity. (I didn't say "no" EV.) Anyway, not convinced this pic is an improvement on its more closely focused predecessor.Sca (talk) 14:59, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose EV is fine for me (known musical artist, in band outfit, playing the instrument he is known for), but cropped too close - feet are cut off.. Would prefer a full length picture as this is fairly easily able to be re-taken... gazhiley13:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
I took this image following a sunshower that left a nice shine on the whole rock face of this cut, which is too long to be seen in its entirety except from the air. I feel it is a nice image, high resolution, and possibly one of the few I've taken worthy of the FP star.
Comment The image doesn't appear to be as sharp as it could be, particularly in the background. The exposures aren't exactly aligned? Methylated603 (talk) 01:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Endemic to performance venues. (Flash wudda worked.) Guess we could call it a mood shot & go with it. Sca (talk) 20:45, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
At 135mm, from this distance, the photographer would have needed a very strong flash. I doubt the venue would have allowed that. (Also, managing the light for flash in the field is quite difficult, particularly if the lighting changes rapidly). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:15, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Aesthetically I don't think it matters anyway that those elements are not in focus. You could even argue that it adds to the interest of the shot. 81.152.230.168 (talk) 23:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Technical quality is pretty good, but that empty space at the top should probably be trimmed. No idea about the category question. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:49, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I don't know where else to do this, so I'll just do it here. Would it be possible to either a) rename the East Asian art category to something like "East Asian paintings, prints and calligraphy" or "2D East Asian art" or b) move the East Asian works of art in the other Artwork categories into East Asian art? - Blorgy555 (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Aside from technical quality (there appears to be noise or compression artefacts, particularly around the rocket), and the fact that this doesn't show the whole monument (thus harming EV), there may be a copyright issue. Russian FOP only applies to buildings, not sculptures. Does the inclusion of a museum in the base make this a building under Russian law? We don't have any cases for precedence, it appears. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:34, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Pretty, but noisy sky & awkward angle for EV... Copyright issues aside, this would be better taken further back to show whole monument to be able to get a sense of scale... gazhiley07:39, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Very nice quality scan; I"ll admit to not reading all the articles it's in but the article on the painting itself provides good EV. SagaciousPhil - Chat15:51, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality, high EV, high condition. This overprinted 5 Mark note is an example of a briefly issued and rare series of World War I emergency currency. This 1904 German Imperial Treasury note was re-issued in 1916–17 for use by German forces in Iran and denominated in the local qiran, a subunit of the Iranian toman.
Comment - Need a US copyright tag for the banknote itself. (PD-1923). Or you can go with PD-1923-anon instead of the current template and have it apply to both the US and Germany. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:40, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Historical EV – presumably a very rare item. Even without the overprinting (right below), the banknote's Art Nouveau graphics are interesting. Sca (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Probably a controversial nom (it certainly has been at Commons) but I think it's too good to pass up. The image shows intentional camera movement, which, as the name suggests, is when a photographer deliberately moves a camera while taking a picture to have a specific effect. In this case, the photographer (Colin) moved the camera along the vertical plane to achieve an impressionist effect. He discusses the image here.
Support I had hoped that, on Commons, the image would be appreciated as more than just an example of ICM. Didn't manage to convince 2/3 but plenty votes in support. On WP, I hope the case is easier since a bluebell wood is a common subject for ICM. In fact it is a bit of a cliché, like photographing an old derelict harbour using a 10-stop ND filter to smooth the waves to milky softness. -- Colin°Talk07:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – This photo would be more informative as a set combined with the same scene without camera movement for comparison. – Editør (talk) 14:48, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a link on the image description page, to a conventional photograph of scene. However, I agree that for discussion of the artistic effect, one doesn't need the standard version in the same way as someone doesn't ask for a colour version of a black and white photo or a classically painted scene vs an impressionist painting. -- Colin°Talk17:38, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. It's kind of funny that this is cruising along with unanimous support here on en FP, which is traditionally known for frowning upon "artsy" photos, when it didn't pass at Commons. And what's even more ironic is that its very artsy-ness is what gives it its EV. -- King of♥♦♣ ♠ 02:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't that surprising to me though. It's cruising because it's encyclopaedic. The Commons crowd, I think, didn't see the usefulness of it. Ðiliff«»(Talk)09:53, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Encyclopedic image that has withstood the test of time. The criticism in the previous nomination did not account for the high encyclopedic value of the image, and this image's longevity is a testament to its quality and instructional value.
User:Crisco 1492 Upon very close inspection, I see what you mean, but I don't think that in any way detracts from the encyclopedic value of this image. If someone puts up a better image (which they haven't in at least seven years) then we can do a D&R later. I think that this image is quite good enough as it is. (: --Pine✉06:25, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I agree with Slaunger about the focus issue at the top - almost blurred. I can't see what we'd ever do about the background tho? It is what it is... gazhiley07:47, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose As per Chris Woodrich, but leaning more towards oppose, as I'd prefer a slightly elevated view to minimise impact of the wall that runs in front of the building - this would also remove the shadow impact to an extent. I'm not saying massively high up, just maybe level with the top of the wall so we can see the extent of it... Standing on a car roof or back of a van would be sufficient... Can be easily re-taken IMO so I lean towards Oppose... gazhiley07:45, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
gazhiley: Thanks for your review. The photo cannot be easily retaken at a viewpoint from a car or van as then you would be further back and the trees surrounding the school would obstruct the view. And obviously a car or van on the football field (which is in a through 2 m down) in front would not be allowed and only worsen the problem. The photo is based on a row of 8 photos in portrait format each taken with three different exposures using an ordinary tripod in its most erected position. If I had gone to extremes and brought a ladder, I would not have had the mechanical stability needed to take such a shot and in order to avoid parallax errors. It is taken at the most optimal possible viewpoint reachable with normal amateur equipment. -- Slaunger (talk) 08:04, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Like Slaunger, I disagree that the photo can easily be retaken from a higher viewpoint. Most photographs of buildings would benefit from an elevated viewpoint but this is rarely possible in practice, short of hiring a cherry picker. It should not be used as a reason to oppose, any more than "would be better if you had Zeiss glass" is a reasonable oppose. gazhiley, standing on a car roof with a tripod, apart from being utterly ridiculous, would lower the wall by about one brick wrt the building behind it. I'm concerned with these reviews that en:FP is merely an armchair photographer forum, where one can find faults and offer ill-considered "advice" rather than somewhere that is concerned with celebrating encyclopaedically excellent images of article subjects. -- Colin°Talk09:20, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Have to agree with Slaunger and Colin. Might be nice to have, but it's not feasible. Slaunger's suggestion at the Commons nomination (come back at a slightly later time) would have probably been best. My Thomas Parr Monument image would have found its way here if I'd been able to wait just half an hour. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:12, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
On the basis that I see your points composition wise Slaunger & Colin, I retract my vote and objection... However, please do not cast any unjust insinuations about this forum and it's inhabitants (although I guess it's aimed firmly in my direction in this particular case)... Personally I like to think that although I cannot afford a good enough camera to take the sort of photographs that appear here, I know enough about what I am talking about to be able to contribute... Please feel free to check my history, and the numerous pictures I have voted on... In more cases than not the points I've raised have been supported by others, and I doubt I hold enough weight around here for that to be based on anything other than that what I'm saying makes sense... I admit that isn't always the case, as this particular nomination shows... But given the annoyance I am currently feeling at this particular insinuation I will withdraw my vote rather than amend it... gazhiley21:01, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
gazhiley, well this example clearly shows you don't necessarily "know enough about what [you are] talking about" and should consider more carefully what you write. How about just judging the image rather than lecturing Slaunger on how to take a better photo. While some advice from experts is useful at times, it is way to easy to end up judging an image by how one thinks it could be improved, rather than simply for what it is. I was hoping more for contrition than annoyance from you, a reaction that suggests you don't quite get how offensive was your ignorant suggestion and comment about how easy such an image is to make. -- Colin°Talk13:30, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
To Clarify, although I agreed with both points of views, the insinuations I referred to were from Colin not Slaunger... Apols to Slaunger that that wasn't clear... gazhiley11:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Outward shadows in all front. Too many trees on side...very wide compo which is not made from the centre make it "leaning". I would crop from both sides to get rid of some trees.--PetarM (talk) 13:47, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
PetarM: Thanks for explaining what you meant. I think I will leave the crop as is, as I find the building would be too crammed if cropped more on the sides leaving it too little space to breathe within the frame. I do not quite understand what you mean with '...which is not made from the centre make it "leaning"' as the composition is perfectly centered, but maybe I misunderstand you. For me the trees are also important as they frame the entire area and help you understand the origin of the shadows in the foreground. With the sun almost directly from behind I get the most even illumination of the subject without too much shadows from the protruding buildings. By taking it in the morning, when this is fulfilled I also get soft, pleasant light. The tradeoff is the shadows in the foreground. If I move close to get rid of the foreground shadows I move down into a two meter depression, which will spoil the view to the inner yard behind the columns. If I crop the shadows I will ruin a nice rule-of-thirds composition vertically. I think that for a neoclassical building where symmetry is an important architectural element it is important to be rigid in the composition. Nevermind, I respect you opinion and view on this, and I do not expect you to further respond to my long and ongoing ramblings over this - for me nearly ideal - representation of the subject. -- Slaunger (talk) 15:57, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Slaunger Why not to respond, if putting minus i feel obligated. OK, sometimes i see ridicilous small angles or unequal distances even at thumb. That will left you techincal drawing for 4 years. Where 1 mm was like 1 cm, and missed degree of angle A LOT. I saw that earlier, but i dont grade all photos. It was very obvious to me its more from left side of centre. When longer lines arent correlated, they seems like to lean. Here is one proof of it...i will erase it after observing it. --PetarM (talk) 20:39, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
PetarM Thanks for taking your time to illustrate the asymmetries in the crop-out you have uploaded and annotated on flickr! You do have a valid observation there. I am just not sure how I could have solved it as the setup is not entirely symmetrical. My main focus was to have the statue between the pillars alligned with the middle of the front door. Had I instead aimed at making the distances you have marked equally large by moving the viewpoint very slightly to the south (left, when facing the facade), the statue would have been very noticeably misaligned relative to the center door. I think more noticeably misaligned that the unequal distances you have annotated. But I agree it is sometimes amazing how ridiculously small misalignments you can spot in thumb when you are trained for it. -- Slaunger (talk) 14:58, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Nothing technically wrong with pic., but (sorry) I too find the viewpoint / composition rather staid and bland. (Perhaps some human presence on the playing field would help?) Also, the brief article devotes only the last two paragraphs to the structure – which seems to be the raison d'être for this particular photo. EV? Sca (talk) 17:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
It shows the interior of Brompton Oratory, a large Neo-Classical Italianate church in London, in high resolution from an aesthetic angle and with a wide angle view to get as much of the interior as possible. I visited this church a number of times previously and was never entirely happy with the photos I took (dull lighting, people moving around, etc), but I'm finally happy with the result of this one.
Support Maybe I would have sacrificed a bit of the field of view to avoid some of the extreme geometrical distortions at the sides, but it is a tradeoff, and I respect your choice. -- Slaunger (talk) 20:27, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's always a trade off, and some people accept the wide angle distortions better than others. I think it's nice to be able to show the full width of the pews, and although I could have cropped some off the top, I think it's all of the glass dome or none at all, and if the latter, it introduces its own compromises in the composition. Sometimes having a fixed width lens is simpler. You simply take a photo with the focal length available to you. With stitching, you have an angle of view limited only by your imagination and the hard limits of rectilinear perspective, so it's harder to decide on the ideal framing. Ðiliff«»(Talk)20:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I see what you mean. It is difficult to see how it could be cropped with a more narrow field of view without making it a 'bad' crop. -- Slaunger (talk) 21:01, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. For those interested, here's a photosphere that I took at the same time from the middle of the church. Gives you the full immersive feel of the church. It's a shame that we don't have a way of viewing these on-Wiki currently. It's something that I'm hoping will change in the near future as I'm uploading a number of them in anticipation of them being useful. Ðiliff«»(Talk)20:44, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, having the capability to show the photosphere like that would be great as it is a much better way to surf this huge field of view. One thing that amazes me in the photosphere is how you can look down and not see a tripod? How did you do that? It is really cool. -- Slaunger (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Magic! ;-) No, it's actually as simple as moving the tripod a metre or or so to the side and tilting the camera down at an angle, pointing at the patch previously occupied by the tripod. You then tell PTGui (or whatever other stitching software if it supports it) to treat that image differently - in other words, to not assume it was taken from the same position. In PTGui, it's called 'viewpoint correction' (do you use PTGui? You need to enable advanced options and then go to the Optimiser tab, the option is there). If the floor is flat, it transforms it geometrically using the control points. The only potential problem with that is that reflections on the floor look rather different from another angle! And you have to mask out the areas that aren't the floor, because you can't transform anything that isn't a two dimensional surface. So I masked out the seating around it. Simple as that really. It's a fiddly job, but the result is worth the trouble. We have anumberofequirectangularimages on Commons (currently unviewable as photospheres though), but very few are done 'professionally' like this one. The tripod remains and looks a bit ugly. The need for significant post-processing work means that it will always be a bit difficult for regular Commons contributors. Ðiliff«»(Talk)21:22, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I like the original upload better [10], it has my support !vote. (and why does everyone add an exclamation mark before !vote ?) Bammesk (talk) 17:09, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support as above. But man, that photosphere is very well done, I wonder if we will have a wikipedia of the future where there exists photospheres of the interiors of famous buildings... I prefer the sphere to the single photograph. Oh well. Mattximus (talk) 02:07, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High resolution, high quality reproduction of a work which is the direct subject of a lengthy Wikipedia article. Obvious EV in illustrating Preparing for a Fancy Dress Ball, and high EV on William Etty (the artist) and Charlotte Williams-Wynn (one of the two subjects).
Looking at print reproductions—including the closeups of picture detail in Art & Controversy—the highlights in the whites appear the same, so it's possible that this is an issue with the actual painting or the photography rather than with digital manipulation. (Or, since this is the "official" York Art Gallery version, it's equally possible that this file is the source of all modern prints.) – iridescent00:08, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Pat's working with the York gallery right now through GLAM (see this for further details) so I'm assuming that he's the photographer in this case, or at the very least has access to the original files (TIF or Raw, I don't know what they're shooting). If it is an issue with the photography itself, hopefully it can be handled. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:22, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This version (and the one printed in Art and Controversy) was created by the Public Catalogue Foundation a few years back for BBC YourPaintings. The digital team here have just resnapped it so we will have .NEF/.TIFF files for the new photography. I should be able to get access to these soon. Would it be better if I gave a link to a dropbox or similar with these files so you guys can do any reworking? PatHadley (talk) 10:54, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, would it be better if I withdrew this? Given the probability that Preparing for a Fancy Dress Ball will be TFA on or near 1 August, this presumably wouldn't run as TFP for some time regardless, to avoid Etty-overload on the main page. – iridescent11:17, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you could withdraw it if you wanted. Pat, I think I'd trust you and the people at York more than myself in this instance. You have access to the painting, so you can tell what it looks like under different lighting conditions. Approximations end up off way too often. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:07, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, can someone who understands FPC close this (not sure if I just hat it or if it needs to be formally closed somewhere). Given that there are four articles on William Etty currently in the DYK queue, and that there are six more of these articles already lined up for their turn at FAC, it's not like the main page is going to suffering from an Etty shortage for a while. – iridescent16:52, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per nom - It looks pretty good to me, and the movie holds up surprisingly well, not a cheesy film as one might expect. Mattximus (talk) 02:02, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Some missing parts of the planet has been retouched. The edges of the sphere were partially pixelated, and it's also corrected. The backround is inlarged, because previous crop was too tight.
Question So what are we doing about this featured pictures? Doesn't make sense to have both. (Alt posted to the right). Mattximus (talk) 02:00, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Photographed here is the damaged service module for the aborted Apollo 13 Lunar Mission, the only one of the 17 total Apollo Project Missions to have been aborted due to a compromised spacecraft during the mission. The damage sustained to the service module prompted fears of possible damage to the heat shield, however the crew was able to successfully land the spacecraft in the Pacific Ocean without incident.
Oppose - Good EV, but I just don't feel like this is one of the best images on Wikipedia. It's super grainy and cropped extremely tight. Kaldari (talk) 03:36, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Alright then, I am apparently going to have to do this myself so if someone could explain to me what needs to be done I'd be happy to attempt to do it. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:51, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support ALT, Oppose original - Yes, it's grainy as all ****, but that's mitigated by the fact that it's an event that only happened once, and will never happen again. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum: I support either version, both have their merits. This corrects my nomination vote to include both versions presented here. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:43, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I find the partial traffic sign a bit distracting; I'm betting on "No Parking" when I should be concentrating on the costume. (It is "No Parking", right?) Belle (talk) 23:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's a no right turn sign. This show was done in the middle of the street (one of the city's main ones) during a car-free day. That has its own EV right there; these celebrations aren't hidden at all. You hear stories of families celebrating Chinese New Year behind closed doors, but this is open and filled with people. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you crop it so we can see the whole traffic sign and some spectators etc. Or does that look (technical term coming up; look away if you are not au fait with photo-editing jargon) "crappy"? Belle (talk) 01:12, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Unfortunate dark gap in background obscures shape of wasp. Also what looks like motion blur in legs & antennae. --Janke | Talk14:58, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – I have to agree with Bruce on this one, since the blossoms in the background 'bleed' into the lower group in the foreground. Sca (talk) 20:57, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
First or very early edition libretto for I Lombardi; an opera revised four years later into a new, French opera (Jérusalem). Early operas by major composers, particularly ones that got pulled apart later to make better operas, thus limiting performances, are a bit hard to get good images for.
Support - Nothing to fault it on technically (since "not blurry or containing stray body parts" is the limit of my my technical expertise). Not very exciting though; I'd prefer a car chase or high-stakes baccarat game, or better still, monkey jockeys in top hats racing leopards down the Champs Elysée. See what you can do next time. Belle (talk) 23:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just the ticket; it's even got a monkey (I think) in a hat and glasses in a car on a tightrope. What are you waiting for? Belle (talk) 13:08, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Quesiton What is your opinion of promoting a photograph of a performer (or any celebrity for that matter) during a period in their career that is most popular/successful? For some reason I feel the EV is decreased since this particular picture is taken well after his prime. As an extreme example: which Elvis photo would you promote quality being the same, 1957 film Jailhouse Rock Elvis, or 1977 fat drugged Elvis? Mattximus (talk) 02:35, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
But we do have an FP of Elvis somewhat past his prime: File:Elvis-nixon.jpg. Although Gabriel is not in Genesis anymore, he is still active as a solo artist: the year this image was taken, he released a solo album. There's still EV for an image showing him as he is now. If we get a good free image of him in the 70s, that can be a second FP. It's not unprecedented (we have two different FPs of Louis Armstrong, for instance). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:19, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This diagram is not at all comprehensible to me. I know it is a complex technical subject, but I feel more could be done to explain to non-specialists what is being depicted. On a small technical point, the alignment and spacing of the pale yellow boxes is messy. 81.152.230.168 (talk) 20:54, 9 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Even as someone who did not major in biology, I thought it was pretty easy to understand. It's a rough sketch of the physical positions of where certain genes are located along the chromosome. These positions can be determined by analyzing how frequently two different alleles are inherited at the same time. More attention needs to be paid to the presentation though: as 81.152.320.168 said, the alignment and spacing of the pale yellow boxes are messy. And perhaps the caption could be a little less jargony. dllu(t,c)08:17, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional support, not sure whether the background is natural or fake/post-processed. Unfortunate clipped head, but given historical uniqueness, looks ok. Brandmeistertalk12:22, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – (nit) – Caption at Jim Morrison terms it a "promotional photo of Jim Morrison in 1967," not '68. (Looks like they used another pic from the shoot for this album cover 40 years later.) Sca (talk) 13:57, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright law at the time just required publication, not first publication. It would have been the copyright holder's responsibility to ensure that the work was published with a notice. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:52, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Although this may not be the most technically competent portrait, it is contemporary to this empress, the quality of the scan is good, and the EV is high for the article.
Comment As this was probably painted when she was a widow, I understand the gloominess, but it's still a very dark image - even after playing around with my monitor's settings a lot, I'm struggling to see the outline of her head and shoulders. I'd prefer a version with better contrast here (like this image of an inferior copy), but I understand that might affect the authenticity of the image. (The original image shows burnt-out highlights on the uprights of the frame, and pitch-black shadows on the horizontals, so I guess the scan already used a fairly tight dynamic range - it is, I concede, a naturally dark image.) Smurrayinchester09:43, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, they definitely tried to get as much dynamic range as possible. I am personally quite uncomfortable with digitally editing the image any further. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Important image even if the painting isn't the most exciting ever (though the artist has tried to jazz it up a bit: look at the motion lines as her arms spin round) Belle (talk) 14:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Another very early image of a notable opera. Wanted to celebrate Viva-Verdi's work here with as many opera images as possible (provided they're encyclopedic, good images). This is a notable illustration from an early vocal score. Took quite a bit of cleanup: File:Giuseppe_Verdi,_Giovanna_d'Arco,_Vocal_Score.jpg is the original.
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Reason
Footage of the Address from the Brandenburg Gate at the Berlin Wall June 12, 1987, by Ronald Wilson Reagan, in which Reagan issued his challenge to then Soviet General Secretary Mikhail Gorbachev to "Tear down this wall!"
jpeg version supplied preference is for the higher quality TIF file, but also support jpg version as per requests below Gnangarra06:10, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It might be my screen, but I can't see a massive difference, so I'm happy for my support to go to both/either... gazhiley10:20, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Crisco 1492: can you please explain what downsampling and bandwidth issues, this is a scanned file not a digital photograph scanning is typically done as tif as its a lossless format unlike jpg. Gnangarra07:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I know perfectly well how scans are usually done. The problem is with the Wiki software itself. JPGs get extra sharpening when they are downsampled for articles/commons, whereas (last I checked) PNG and TIF do not (see Commons:File types). The file size also affects, to the best of my knowledge, the bandwidth necessary to download a page. I may be mistaken on this; if Adam or someone else who is more up to date than me could confirm, that would be great. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
the image is clear here, on the article page and one the commons page, I do note that the file has been adjusted on commons 3 times since upload to fix a tif issue given that if it was an issue someone would have made a jpg image, but we should still be presenting the best image format as the FP not a lossy format converted from it..... Gnangarra09:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a very bad idea to assume that someone would fix such an issue; not everyone thinks of everything. As for TIFF, the page I linked above states explicitly "[TIFF is] an archival format, and should never be used for images intended to be displayed." Help:Files#Uploading_files also lists it as supported, but doesn't include it in a list of recommended types. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have a TIFF copy; far from it. I'm just saying that, for article use, we should have JPG; this is supported by documentation on Commons and the English Wikipedia. Sadly, as such I must oppose for now. The technical quality is acceptable for me, but the format is an issue, particularly for users opening articles on low bandwidths (From Commons: "thumbnails are generated in the same format as the original image and are always in 24-bit color ... This means that scaling PNG images produces fairly large files even if the original image contained a palette, or was in grayscale format"; this presumably applies to TIFF as well) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - in view of the extreme rarity of inside photos while it was still operating, very strong support for the actual usage, rather than any technical issues which seem irrelevent in that context.JarrahTree09:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support JPG version only; very technically well done. Any restoration work (not that much is necessary) can be done using the archival TIF. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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King's College London Chapel Interior
The interior facing the altar
The interior facing the organ
Reason
The two images of this interesting Grade 1 listed building (the highest level of heritage listing in England) show the interior from opposite ends and are very high resolution, aesthetic and architecturally corrected. It is the work of George Gilbert Scott, one of Britain's most renown Gothic Revival architects and extremely prolific. His article is worth a read if nothing else.
Comment – Personally, I'd prefer one shot or the other. My choice would be the altar-facing one, due in part to the windows. (I wonder what made the short-lived original chapel, mentioned in the article, so unpopular.) Sca (talk) 18:21, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm okay with the idea of one and not the other being featured if one is not up to scratch, but they are clearly useful together as a set because they illustrate opposing views of the interior. The two of them together shows what one cannot. As for the reason for the original chapel, I have no idea, but it didn't last long. Just 25 years. That's not even long in today's disposable world! Ðiliff«»(Talk)18:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Quality set, and I agree that we should show both - the view is different enough that they are both valuable pictures... gazhiley11:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can you do anything about the strange skewing of the chandeliers in the foreground? I can't abide a wonky light fitting. Belle (talk) 00:33, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately not. This is just the effect of perspective in a wide angle photo. Some objects look more strange than others but they are all affected by it. A photographer only has two choices, a less wide view showing less of the interior and less distortions, or a wider view that has more distortions. Ðiliff«»(Talk)07:45, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - though I think you could have have commissioned identical light fittings that were skewed the opposite way to the perspective, installed them, taken the picture in which the effect of perspective would have been to render them looking normal, then uninstalled your specially commissioned ones and and reinstalled the old ones; it shows a lack of commitment or imagination that you didn't think of this without prompting, but I'm prepared to overlook it this once just because I don't want to stand out from the herd by opposing. Belle (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Disappointing that this particular comb lacks more refined & thus interesting 50/50 division into thin and thicker teeth. (I use the thin ones for combing eyebrows.) Sca (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality and encyclopedic photo that is "among Wikipedia's best work". The photo hasn't been in the articles for 7 days but I believe that the high quality makes it eligible for bypassing the 7 day guideline. The image size is 15,006 × 7,503 pixels.
Oppose The flash makes it look like it has been surprised sneaking out of a nightclub; if only it had little leafy hands to throw up in shock. Belle (talk) 00:20, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The photographer really needs to clean his DSLR sensor. It's extremely dirty. As for the image itself, I'm not convinced though. It has some EV in showing the kit of a 'rescue swimmer' but it seems designed to be a bit of a propaganda portrait more than really being that useful for the article. An image showing someone in action would be more useful. If the article was about her as a notable person, it might have more EV, but otherwise it's a bit limited. The lighting is also quite poor (overexposed sky and underexposed black kit) and the WB seems off. It could be because of the light through the clouds, but it seems too pink-tinted for me. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In case of swimming, however, you wouldn't be able to see the entire suit and swimfins (she would be half-submerged), so I think EV is still here in its own right. As for WB and pink tint, it looks correctable, if this is indeed so. Brandmeistertalk
I wasn't saying swimming specifically, they could be preparing to dive or anything that shows some aspect of what they do, rather than posing melodramatically in front of a helicopter. That's what I mean. If it was just a problem the WB tint, I'd offer to correct it myself, but it's more than just that IMO. Ðiliff«»(Talk)12:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Agree with Diliff from an EV point of view... To illustrate a rescue swimmer, it would be best if he/she could at least be swimming, if not actually rescue swimming. Otherwise this is just a person in a wetsuit... gazhiley11:21, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Failing an action shot, I'd like at least to see her feet to check if she has webbed toes or little outboard motors on her heels. Also, is that somebody drowning in the background that she's ignoring? Belle (talk) 00:15, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I would support, but there's lots of marks and hairs either on the canvas or the lens and there's a line running down her face. While you are on this theme, is there a FPable image of this belle anywhere? I'd like that. Belle (talk) 23:44, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know, sorry; Hafs gave me it. Lenoir's works are in museums all over France and some are in private hands (so helpful, Belle, so helpful). Belle (talk) 00:20, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As for this painting: withdraw - Seems they digitized a slide they'd made a while ago. Not only are there spots and hairs, but also fingerprints. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose too small for the FP size criterion (I'm sure it would would make a nice FP if we could get a bigger, better shot of it). Belle (talk) 09:14, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality image, high EV, rare in this very high condition. Struck during the last three months of 1689, Alexander VIII was only Pope for roughly 15 months until his death in 1691. Second nomination, the first nomination was unopposed but fell one short of passing.
Question is this file used in any pages? That is a prerequisite for featured picture status. It is also under the minimum resolution (1500px) Mattximus (talk) 21:45, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Its now in 2 artciles. Mattximus; photo is full size, just croped so because its panel, very wide compare to height. When they put 1500px limit they probably didnt think on that. --PetarM (talk) 04:36, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Owing to the aspect ratio, I think we can allow a small exception for size issues (but yes, there were discussions). This is still 5.79 megapixels. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:48, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - though I reckon I could definitely do that with a single sheet; I can make a fortune-teller, how much more complicated can it be? Belle (talk) 00:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
A film reel documenting the launch of the Space Shuttle Challenger and the destruction of the vehicle less than two minutes into the intended flight. This would be the only time in the history of the Space Shuttle Program that a shuttle craft would be lost en route to space, and served a similar role for NASA's Space Shuttle Program that the loss of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge for civil engineering in that both have become widely studied examples engineering failures.
My terrible internet connection won't play this unless I give it 12 hours to download, but is this the best resolution video available? (although, if you do find a better resolution, I definitely won't be able to watch it; nice one, Belle, ask for something that you can't use). Belle (talk) 09:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's the highest resolution in the source (side note: we should definitely note that this is an edited version of source video; a lot of the commemorative information was removed). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:38, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Video from the tracking camera E-207 shot during the liftoff of Challenger (STS-51-L) which captured the SRB plume piercing the external tank. Playback speed is 50% real-time. This angle places a greater degree of emphasis on the SRB plume which set into motion the failure of the tank that would cause the loss of the shuttle and tank less than two minutes into the launch.
I think I'll have to Oppose on the basis that some footage seems to have been removed which makes it less than useful for its stated purpose. Belle (talk) 09:29, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Question Is it my eyes or is there a stiching error? Left hand side, level with the white windows of the greenish building the building seems to be sticking out - almost curved... Is that actually how it looks? Or diff angled pictures stuck together? gazhiley10:23, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Was gonna say is it just me but I guess it isn't. Background buildings appear to show distorted perspective. Sca (talk) 13:27, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As it appears from other responses above that it isn't my eyes, I Oppose due to stitching and perspective issues... gazhiley13:42, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'll rework from scratch. There is no stitching involved, this is a single image. Perhaps the attempt at perspective correction is too aggressive?-Godot13 (talk) 14:05, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment re "stitching" error: Leaf backs are very high resolution; something this size is nothing for such a camera. There can't be any stitching errors if there's been no stitching. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:36, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - gazhiley,Sca,PetarM, Chris Woodrich - I have reworked the image from the raw file and over-written the present file. The raw/original file is also attached as an other version. As Chris mentioned, there is no stitching in this image. The Leaf Aptus-II is an 80MP medium format digital back. Vertical perspective has been centered on the lamp posts in the foreground and background. Very few things are straight in old Jaffa and unfortunately I can't alter the composition at this point. I hope this is better (or at least explains the image).--Godot13 (talk) 03:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Can't speak to this technically, but there still seems to be something squiffy about the perspective – as if the roof on the round-cornered bldg. in bg is a bit too high. (And it's 6:30 a.m., so it's not me who's squiffy.) Sca (talk) 12:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Better, yes, but not best, as the advertisers used to say. Now the tower itself seems to have a bit of lean to it – or is it just my skewed vision? (Maybe a slight bit of counterclockwise rotation would help?) Sca (talk) 21:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that the tower itself isn't actually straight. Try comparing the straight lines on the tower and the nearby, more modern building. If one is vertical, the other leans very slightly CW. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:32, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice photo with high illustrative value and good quality. I was not sure if it falls within the guidelines, because it's only 400 px in length, but on the other hand it's a long panorama type of photo. What's your opinion?
I was not sure about that when I nominated, and the nomination was kind of asking if this height resultion is a definite no. Speedy close it is then. Tomer T (talk) 09:04, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure it is actiony and all that and bravo to the photographer for not getting any motion blur (obviously remembered to turn the knob to the "man running" picture), but I don't like the aesthetics of it; he looks a bit contorted like his hips are dislocated and he only has one arm (with which he is trying to tie his shoelace). Belle (talk) 15:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Excellent shot of excellent technique - right foot is perfectly positioned, eyes on the ball, and the back lift shows that this is going to be a rocket of a shot if he connects correctly.... As regards the EV of this player, well it's clearly him, doing what he does, and looking like he's doing it well... Ticks the boxes for me... gazhiley10:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you don't need all the mountains to say "mountains." Suggest a more tightly framed composition (from closer vantage point) with less sky and valley floor.
This shot (see below) from the Pyrenees isn't necessarily a prize winner, but it has more of a central focus (and even it has more foreground than necessary). Sca (talk) 22:03, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean, and thanks for explaining this to me (like I said, I'm a noob at FP), but if you did that with the La Platas you'd only get one or two peaks in the frame, but it has 18 peaks over 12,000 feet (3,700 m). Would a tight crop suffice, or would the image quality suffer too much? RO(talk)22:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
May I suggest a panorama so that all peaks could be fitted in while being much closer? Easy for me to say though of course, not saying it's neccessarily possible... gazhiley10:08, 18 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try some different stuff next week. I think you might be right if this picture is only about the La Platas, but the Mancos Valley is also prominently featured. Would it still be too far back if the title was Mancos Valley with the La Plata Mountains? RO(talk)22:34, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
It's difficult to capture such a huge field of vision without resorting to panorama or some other special view / lens. (Consult the experts; I'm outta touch with current technology.) Sca (talk) 14:46, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support I've always liked this (I suppose buying it for almost $300 million would prove that, but it could just be an investment) Belle (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
It looks a bit messy in composition but this was the best vantage I could get of one of shia Islam's holiest sites. Good quality, EV and rare given that it's from Iraq.
Oppose I don't really have a problem with it being in context among the buildings, traffic and cables, but the scaffolding on the rear right-hand minaret kills it for me. Belle (talk) 11:43, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support Got to support it after it made the effort to dress up smart with its bow tie. I do prefer the image of the world's most miserable orchestra that appears in the angklung article, but this shows the instrument well. Belle (talk) 01:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I quite agree with Mr Gilbert Pangyarihan, that is 100% "Bersertifikat intergalaksi!" (I really must learn some Indonesian, though I suspect that phrase will do for most situations). Belle (talk) 01:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Intergalactic certification does sound fun. They've got Indonesian actors planned for Star Wars VII, so we've got to have some Aldraanian angklung. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:21, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support - nice and clear and more exciting than the opera pamphlets but still no top-hatted monkeys on camelback; booooo, down with Cuerden. Belle (talk) 01:10, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Nice image for a century-old pic. Lengthy and extremely well-documented article. An interesting life story. Sca (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
On copyright grounds, no less, when I documented, with evidence, that it was published as a carte de visite in 1908, and that Danish copyright doesn't even consider publication for photos anyway. Sometimes I wonder why I bother...Edit: Sorry, was annoyed at the time. Adam Cuerden(talk)11:16, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fingers crossed this image is restored; I did see the discussion you had with Chris about the copyright so was surprised when I noticed the removal. I think this image is far superior and does an FA full justice. SagaciousPhil - Chat11:41, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High resolution image of a very small extinct creature. There is a scale which hopefully explains the lack of sharpness when zoomed in. The special reason this is selected is that it is a holotype, which means this is the only fossil of this creature on earth, so it can only look like this.
Quite honestly, that's about the point where I'd start downsampling. At least 60% of the current size. The extra pixels aren't hiding any detail. Also, the size isn't the reason for the lack of sharpness. The photographer setting the camera to F/20 is. If he'd focus stacked with a wider aperture, we'd have better sharpness at full size. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:38, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Overall it's a good representation, but I think the lines on the paper / whatever he used as the background need to go. I've provided an edit here. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:42, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
The image helps make a technical article more accessible (WP:TECHNICAL) and the main subject (Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which covers six articles) more understandable, despite the fact that the graphic is not used in the other articles. Therefore, I believe this graphic has a very high encyclopedic value. It is not an artistically outstanding work, but it is simple, has good composition, and does not contain chartjunk (eg. no overly-detailed graphics, or unnecessary words like "Not to scale").
Rendering issue has been fixed! NOTE: Mediawiki does not render the image preview correctly! In other words, when you view the file page of Wikipedia or Commons, the PNG image preview does not look right and so the PNG version is used in the article. However, if you click the image preview and view the actual SVG file, it renders correctly (the same as the PNG image displays)!!! I started to write this nomination for the PNG file, but then decided to nominate the SVG version because I realized the file was ok and that is what is being nominated. If the Mediawiki rendering is a problem, then I am not opposed to the PNG file being the candidate (if it is possible to discuss two different versions of the file in one nomination).
SVG version (nominee show at right, but not rendered correctly by Mediawiki)
PNG version (used in article, but inferior file type for this type of graphic)
Comment The problem with the SVG is that you are using non-free fonts that Mediawiki does not support. Use the Commons:SVG Check tool to check out your graphic, open your SVG in a text editor, and make the corrections suggested by the tool. After fixing and adjusting your line lengths, your problem with overlap should be gone. Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 23:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Aside from Stigmatella's point, there's the fact that the version promoted as FP must also be the one used in the article. Otherwise said FP will have no encyclopedic value (what value can it have if it's already been replaced?) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:49, 19 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a an old list of approved SVG fonts for Wikimedia and a current unformatted list of available fonts. Arial is not a font available for SVG rendering. If you absolutely must use a font that is installed on your computer but not on the server, you can convert the text to a path. That bloats the file size and makes it harder to modify the text, but you're assured that, except for browser issues, the downloaded SVG will render properly on different computers. Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 15:30, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Non-vectorised fonts in SVGs are notoriously problematic. When I look at the SVG version in IE or Chrome, I see a serif font with messy alignment. 109.152.146.250 (talk) 23:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Why would the text not be aligned? All the text elements are center-aligned, so any font issues wouldn't impact the alignment of the text. Arial is a sans-serif font and no other font is specified in the file, so there's no reason why the text would be in serif font. Furthermore, Arial is one of the most common fonts used and is supported my nearly all OSs and browsers. The issue with Mediawiki support only affects the rendering of the PNG preview, not the svg file itself. Nonetheless, I have changed the file from "font-family:Arial" to "font-family: Liberation Sans, Arial, sans-serif" per the instructions at commons:Help:SVG#Fallback fonts. AHeneen (talk) 01:56, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Check that "Time slot for reply" is centred. I still see a serif font in both IE and Chrome, even though I have Arial installed. Whether it's browser issues or something else, fonts in SVGs always seem to be a pain in the a**e. You can never be confident that another user will see the same as you. 86.152.161.192 (talk) 20:48, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That was the only one that wasn't center-aligned. Fixed. There's no reason why you should see a serif font. As mentioned above, all the text elements have been changed to "font-family: Liberation Sans, Arial, sans-serif". AHeneen (talk) 04:58, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
weak oppose does look over slightly exposed but its ok... the problem I have is the curved lines of the background draw the eye away from the subject. Gnangarra02:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is a bit of reflectoporn in his glasses at the highest resolution (maybe not porn, but we live in hope of CSI enhancement technology revealing a naked photographer as the cause of Mr Gentry's wry smile). Belle (talk) 00:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
The last of this particular type of image for now - Rigoletto will probably reappear in a couple weeks after being one short of quorum during a lull in activity, and there's a couple more monochrome opera images in the queue - but they're fairly different than the ones we've been seeing (for instance, one shows named performers in a lithograph). Anyway, this is another very early edition of Verdi's operas, with a pretty decent image with high EV (it appears Verdi took an interest in how his scores were illustrated) that fills a gap in the opera's page very well - only illustration of Act III. Not that I have a source saying it's Act III, but, seriously, it's Act III, the one - and the only one - that takes place in a bedroom, and has a scene with three characters who.. well, do that scene. By the way, this was annoyingly difficult to fix up - had some very obtrusive bright yellow markings on it that took ages to get rid of, as they intersected text and such. There's one bit I didn't restore - the Fr. on the middle right. This is because, looking at other images from early Ricordi editions, that Fr. should be followed by a number, and I found two Ricordi Traviata scores, and each had a different number there. That's a sign that you should leave it be, with the evidence of damage. Adam Cuerden(talk)12:31, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Brandmeister: Heh. Aye, I've been doing a lot of opera, but, as I said a while back, we recently lost a major operatic contributor. I would like to honour his memory rather fully. But I'll switch it up a bit for a moment. Adam Cuerden(talk)19:00, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Agreed. I kind of hate when things like modernization - even when they work well - become the only option that anyone takes, throwing out the traditional approach. Especially when the production doesn't manage to work in the modernized elements to fit the lyrics. La boheme suffers from this very badly, particularly when the modernization isn't thought through very well, just done because everyone's doing it. Adam Cuerden(talk)15:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Adam Cuerden: I'm a traditionalist when it comes to my opera productions, but I tend to agree; I find too many directors are unwilling to look beyond the surface when directing much of anything. And I loathe modernization for the sake of modernization; rarely have I seen an updating that worked well. Twice, perhaps, in all my years of opera-going...and one of those was a televised production. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa.15:55, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Although this is a very good shot of most of a snowy owl, I'd like to see the tail in a featured pic.(not just the tail; that would definitely be an oppose) Belle (talk) 00:23, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is some grain that I thought it was noise at first, but at an ISO of 200 it doesn't seem likely. Maybe it has been over-sharpened a bit? --Ebertakis (talk) 20:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I don't think we need to see the tail to appreciate the finely detailed pristine plummage shown in this shot. There is a pic of one with tail at Snowy owl. (And DYK they even have them in Sweden?)Sca (talk) 13:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]