Support Great photo and interesting organism. Suggest playing with caption. Think you can cut "region of North America" (no other continents have a PNW and you have it hyperlinked.) Second sentence is good to be instructing on the veil, but leaves me wondering what the fruit body is. Not sure how to fix, but if you can make a little more self supporting and clear would be upgrade.)TCO (talk) 18:03, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
This image is an essential teaching tool for grounding scientific education. Carl Sagan used it as the cornerstone of the first episode of Cosmos: A Personal Voyage. This is an updated view that is designed for putting cosmology, evolution, and written history in context. In addition to dates of important events, dates for availability for different types of evidence are shown.
Oppose: I like the idea of this kind of diagram, however in its current state I do not think it is high enough quality to be considered:
Technical issues: It is the wrong file type (it should be png or svg), it shows serious jpg compression artefacts and looks like it may have been upsampled.
Description: This needs a carefully worded description to make it absolutely clear how this uses the analogy of the history of the universe lasting a year and the consequential relative timings of various historical events.
Layout: I like the overall structure, but I find the calendar layout as a summary of December unclear. The facts crammed in to December the 31st as times of the day are particularly confusing; I would suggest splitting this to a separate timeline/row one day long. Overall the timeline needs to be clearer and it would be very useful to include the actual times at which these events occurred.
Factual/language errors: There are many phrases which are not entirely scientifically accurate: "First life (bacterial)" is a great oversimplification, the nature of the first life is not known. "Cell nucleation" reads like nucleation is a process a single cell undergoes, it should read "Evolution of the eukaryotic nucleus" or similar. "Dinosaurs at top of food chain" ... and were also in the middle, and near the bottom. "Ape/gibbon split" etc. is sloppy scientific language, it should be "Ape/gibbon divergence" or similar. "Netherlandals and other megafauna die out" suggests netherlandals were megafauna.
If it can be done without damaging clarity, could you add some more non-human-lineage stuff, as well as missing landmarks? I'd suggest, to start:
Eukaryotes
Amphibians
Arthropods
Insects
Flowering plants
Fungi
Possibly mammals' return to the sea (Whales, Dolphins)
...And so on. I understand this is supposed to be a basic metaphor, but covering some of the other well-known lineages would help broaden it a bit, and avoid the common misconception of the tree of life as a ladder. Adam Cuerden(talk)07:30, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose its a little subjective, but dividing "year" up into 12 discrete "months" doesn't seem to make for a good timeline and looses information about the period over which certain events might have taken place. JJ Harrison (talk) 10:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
'Withdrawn as nominatorEfbrazil Much thanks for the feedback! I have updated the photo to png, made the native resolution 1600 * 1200, and included most of the feedback above in the image content. I am planning to resubmit the photo unless more fixes are required. Is there a way to withdraw this submission without deleting the comments? Also, please let me know if there's a good way to get feedback before submission. I'm a newbie here and still figuring out how this all works. Thanks!
Yeah I know about the last one, just figured it would show that the phrase is in actual use. I was looking for the name for the boat as well but couldn't get anything other than the generic motorboat. --Muhammad(talk)12:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. IMO the photo doesn't add any additional value (not already illustrated by other pictures) to the articles mentioned. - d3j4vu(talk)09:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Gives a good overview of the crater, showing the lake, dirt roads and the numerous wildebeests and zebras who appear as dotted trails. Imae has been stable in the article for many months now.
Neutral. As I enjoyed my time there a great deal, and therefore have a soft spot for it. But -- if appropriate -- can the image be sharpened somewhat? Perhaps I'm being overly influenced by the haze on the mountains in the background, but it seems a bit less sharp than what I would hope for in an FP.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:00, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It does have a sense of scale when one views it at full size (road, cars, animals)! But the problem for me is that I'm sure this is a really impressive awe-inspiring place, but this photo doesn't put that across. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Excellent exterior view of the entire temple which is among the landmarks of the Bulgarian capital as well as a very good representation of the Neo-Byzantine architecture and the Bulgarian Romantism in the architecture.
Neutral for now. It's a good photo, just a little uninspiring for me. It seems like a holiday snapshot from the angle at which it was taken. But I do like the kids playing at the entrance! Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. I like the angle and the composition, and the EV is fairly clear, but the technical quality isn't enormous. Nice shot though. J Milburn (talk) 17:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose How do we know they are F-15 pilots? I know they are walking past some, but they could be pilots of any type of plane just had to walk past the F-15's to get back to command centre or wherever... So little or no ev for F-15 and it's a small picture in a small stub for the other article quoted... gazhiley.co.uk23:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Sorry; this is a snapshot of some pilots who happen to be female, which is not the same thing as a high-EV shot illustrating female pilots. Further, this a long way from eye-catching, and the quality is hardly stellar. J Milburn (talk) 17:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
New alternate version with full state names, editable text and named countries]]
Native range of the painted turtle (C. picta) Dark grey for national borders White for state and province borders Dark blue for rivers, only showing those in article
Eastern (C. p. picta)
Midland (C. p. marginata)
Southern (C. p. dorsalis)
Western (C. p. bellii)
Intergrade mixtures (large areas only)
Mix of eastern and midland
Mix of eastern and southern
Mix of midland and western
Reason
From the FPC criteria, this graphic especially demonstrates good use of sources and helpful illustration to an article. More than twenty sources were checked and combined. Also, an issue of readers understanding geography was clarified by showing political boundaries and key rivers along with the species extent. This follows a concern from the FAC. Wiki-linking state names and common rivers is discouraged at FA, would result in huge list-y sections of blue, and really not help the reader as much as a diagram that combines all the info. While the article had already made FA, I'd grown to feel that a first class map would take care of an issue and really help in a picture worth a thousand words manner, to combine a lot of info for the reader.
Also, lack of quality maps (both in look and in content) is a common problem we have on wiki where our content often looks worse than magazine nature articles or certainly than field guides. I hope this map is a step in the right direction.
Support: WP needs more maps like these and I hope an FP will encourage more people to create them, they do require a good deal of effort. It's a good example of how the SVG format encourages reuse if images since the base map was created by someone else. Also, though not visible here, the sources for the information are very well documented and WP:VERIFY needs to apply to images as well as articles.--RDBury (talk) 17:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Some unusual choices: some, but not all, rivers are labeled and/or shown (including several small tributaries of the upper Tennessee River, but not other rivers). Why were those rivers chosen? Two-letter postal abbreviations are used for Canadian provinces and U.S. states, but full names are used for Mexican states. And the countries of Canada, the United States and Mexico are themselves not labeled. Spikebrennan (talk) 01:30, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rivers included are only those described in the article text as noted in caption. Want to stick with this for illustrative connection to the article. We will look at the state and country names concern.TCO (talk) 01:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The position of the Tennessee River is not quite correct. See map here. The confluence of the Tennessee and Ohio rivers is not near the Indiana border, it is farther west. The position of the Columbia River is also not quite correct: the point where the river crosses the US-Canada border should be further east, near the Washington-Idaho border. See this map. Oppose until corrected (but with appreciation for the work done so far-- I just think that the map needs a bit more work before it's ready for FPC).Spikebrennan (talk) 18:14, 23 February 2011 (UTC). Opposition withdrawn in recognition of the additional corrections (but I'd still recommend following the Wikiproject:Maps conventions). Spikebrennan (talk) 14:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question Is it possible to upload a version with modifiable text to Commons? I'm guessing there was one at some stage. This would make it easier for other Wikis to translate and use the map. Makeemlighter (talk) 01:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can tell why you used abbreviations initially; the new version looks crowded, and at least the country names need to be fixed somehow, perhaps by omitting them. —innotata21:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed about looking crowded. Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps/Conventions appears to implicitly recommend that labels be omitted if they're not important. For that matter, the conventions article has specific style recommendations about what colors to use. I also note that the labels for the individual state names are, in the new alt. version, kind of haphazardly oriented (some are true horizontal, some apparently follow the arc of the latitude lines, and some are angled so as to fit into a given state's area-- there's not a clear pattern. I'd recommend doing away with the labels of states (but leaving the state borders), and otherwise following the Wikipedia:Distribution maps and Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps/Conventions/Areas maps conventions to the extent practicable. If the conventions are unsuitable for this map, then by all means let the folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps know as I am sure that the conventions can be improved. Spikebrennan (talk) 22:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Prefer to keep the written out state and province names. I'm glad you made us add them. Think it serves my article better. The purpose of the map was to show the political boundaries and rivers in concert with the species distribution, to support the discussion in article. I agree it is prettier without. But I think better for the reader to have one map, rather than literally two. And the average international reader doesn't know all the state locations (or even average USAian know all the provinces). (I think we can nuke the country names, I will handle that in captions and these are features much more likely to be known.) We will fix Tennessee joining Ohio and also figure out British Columbia better.TCO (talk) 22:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've refined the shape of both the Tennessee and Columbia rivers to be more accurate now. As for the state labels, they are differently angled depending on their size and readabiliy, but I agree it doesn't look great. A possible solution would be to angle them all horizontally but in order to do so they would have to be decreased in size a fair bit, which will make them hard to read, to ensure they fit. Fallschirmjäger✉23:26, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Great quality and highly relevant to the article as the subspecies overlapping is a point of discussion. I'm surprised and delighted that sources exist to show such detail. Credit to Fallschirmjäger's artwork and TCO's research skills. One question arises. What is the biggest size in width this image can be shown on if it's on the front page? Regards, SunCreator(talk)00:37, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Have same question. Actually kinda worried that it might not be Front Page suitable, although I really feel as a diagram, it helps combine info.) One thing we could do for a main page run would be to take all the state and river text out. Also, the caption can be skinnied down to 2 columns rather than 3, by cutting the left hand column. (In article, I really prefer to stay full width as I blather on so much about aspects of geography, that labels are needed. I realize this means people on mobile devices will have to scroll.) P.s. And yes, every individual dot in the SW is sourced and we even looked at different references that disagreed and figured out which were most recent or thorough or the like (and mention disagreements in text or notes in article.)TCO (talk) 01:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edited version is the one in article, now. (Which should say something. ;-)) I appreciate the reviewers in pushing us for the improvement as it has increased EV. We're no longer making people look up province/state names. Also Tennessee River was improved as were all the BC rivers and actually the species boundaries in BC. There is a tension between the most pretty image and the one that is most helpful as a diagram. Given we are full size in the article and have this issue of a heck of a LOT of geography being covered in article text (read it now), think we need the political labels. I've now seen 20+ range maps of C. picta and you can see different traits followed in a field guide (where size is small, and content is really clipped) versus a report like COSEWIC. I think we are a bit closer to COSEWIC in purpose, which also has lots of geographic detail along with species range.TCO (talk) 16:33, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Excellent exterior view of a historic landmark building of the New York City modeled after a Gothic cathedral plan. High resolution as well as free license.
Oppose the large area of snow in the foreground is distracting - I'd suggest retaking this photo once it melts (preferably at a time when the buildings behind the hall are also in the sun, if this is possible). Nick-D (talk) 07:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
An uncommon resident down here. I believe this image meets the criteria. Probably the last Tasmanian bird from me for quite a while. Fear not though - I've probably got over 75 birds from Thailand to nominate over the next while. Whilst the JAFBP "problem" will get worse, they will counter systemic bias in some sense since we don't have much coverage from South East Asia.
you were quite far away then, considering you have an effective 1100mm. And sorry to bring up the downsampling issue _again_, but Cephas shows pretty well on Commons that one can upload large quality pics of birds. Why not you ? Sad to see the most skilled wiki photographers downsampling most of the time. - Blieusong (talk) 09:43, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
17.5 meters according to exif - but there was still a great deal of empty frame. I was informed about this bird by text message. I managed to gradually close my distance crawling in the mud and rain over about 30 minutes as it was feeding along the edge Lauderdale canal outlet. Since it was starting to get dark the bird decided to rest for the night. I managed to close another five meters or so before it showed signs of agitation - if I'd gone any closer it would have just flown away. Getting closer would really require waiting for the bird behind cover at high tide and getting lucky. Cephas does show that it is possible, and the more that do so the better. Downsampling isn't about quality - ultimately I don't quite feel comfortable with giving everything away. I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that my upload behaviour is ignominious though. On the bright side I don't downsample as much as I used to - usually it is about 75% size now instead of 50%. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(never noticed EXIF had distance..) I can understand your think twice when it comes to give high resolutions pictures to Wiki, and I've already come across several abusive use of my own pics (and they're not as near as good as yours...). There are pros and cons. On the cons side, what about if contributions to the articles were crippled the same way ? But don't get me wrong, I'm happy you keep contributing. - Blieusong (talk) 22:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose A crop still wouldn't bring the composition up to par, in my opinion. It would have helped if the picture was taken about five feet to the right. Image quality is a bit lacking as well. Jujutaculartalk23:30, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
They displayed some diurnal activity, mainly just sitting on the rocks near their chicks but yeah I did see them flying a little. Perhaps the article should be reworded to improve clarity in this area. Benjamint04:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
An evocative and colorful picture of the city. Its serene tone gives another side to the stories about the current unrest in Libya, while giving a glimpse into the aging architecture and cramped conditions in the city. What it lacks in resolution it makes up for in tone and clarity.
No, it does not make it up in tone and clarity (has the name of a photoshop slider now become an official FPC criterion?). If by tone you mean saturated, then I wonder where the encyclopedic value is. The depicted part of town looks random and could be any north african or middle eastern city. There is nothing particularly special in the frame, and to study "normal" cityscape the resolution is nowhere near good enough. And, sorry, but the filename is not ok either. --Dschwen04:58, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Size is sufficient for me, though Dschwen does make some good points. JJ Harrison (talk)
Oppose Size is insufficient. Image quality is poor - there are blown out highlights, lens flare (in the bottom right), and image noise in the darker areas. Furthermore, there are JPG artifacts and aliasing (e.g. in the green building on the left). Upon close examination there are random splotches of green and magenta. Filename suggests that image has been aggressively downsampled from the original; and even this was poorly done, as evidenced by the aliasing. Moreover, Dschwen raises good points about encyclopedic value. Purpy Pupple (talk) 03:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support: As per Jujutacular's suggestion, the portrait now has a good home in the Ronald Reagan article. I've updated the nomination for that. The FP we already have of Reagan is one of those ubiquitous formal White House portraits, stood in front of the flag, trying to look natural and down to earth but serious and purposeful, blah blah. This is so much better (even quality wise), and we get something of his personality as a younger man. Don't see why there isn't scope for both being FPs, as his presidency did not define him nor his career(s). Maedin\talk22:52, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't think this satisfies criterion 5 ("Adds value to an article and helps readers to understand an article"). In an article as heavily illustrated as Ronald Reagan, this picture just doesn't add much. He's already 63 in this picture (and governor of California), so it's not exactly showing a different part of his life. Restoration looks pretty good, though. Makeemlighter (talk) 02:34, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
It has good contrast, accurate exposure and neutral colour balance (well at least that is what the image histogram strongly suggests). It meets the pixel criteria. Its probably the most photogenic of what's left of Sir George Staunton's work in Staunton Country Park (The Shell House is heavily shaded and damaged, the Chinese bridge has been reduced to it's bare structure and the lake has been altered). It adds value to the article in that it shows the structure and gives some idea of what the park would have been like before William Henry Stone got his hands on it and the trees became somewhat overgrown. The only editing done is a slight rotation and crop.
It doesn't really feel like it has strong EV at the moment. This is more of a reflection on the article (which really focuses on the park itself) than the image. What about creating an article for the Beacon itself? JJ Harrison (talk) 10:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
The Indian Army is the 2nd largest army in the world and one of the oldest also. The army has seen action in World War-I, World War-II,Anglo-Afgan Wars,Sino-Indian War,Indo Pak Wars,Kargil War and numerous other conflicts.
The "historical significance" the image carries clearly overweights the so called "quality". This image shows the symbol of "50th (INDEPENDENT) PARACHUTE BRIGADE (INDIA)" and below are three units of this brigade that participated in Kargil War. The units of brigade has seen action in World War-I, World War-II, Indo Pak Wars,Kargil War and numerous other conflicts. The units of this Brigade were the back bone of British Army and saw action in middle east from British side.
But i'm sorry to write that such a significant army is also one of the most "under-written" and "under-photographed" armies on wikimedia,wikipedia and other wiki projects.There is not a single image that is comparible to this one; not just on wikipedia but on the whole internet also. This is not just a rare image but it is rarest of the rarest image of one of the bravest brigades in the world.
Though this image is not of too good quality, but it is not the quality alone that make a picture featured one......it is the "historical significance".
This image represent the strength of 1.1 BILLION INDIANS and thus must be a "featured picture"
Oppose I'd suggest withdrawing this nomination as this photo is low quality and doesn't meet the featured picture criteria (as it's out of focus and the logos are at an angle). These logos may also be covered by copyright. Nick-D (talk) 07:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt they're covered by Copyright: India has fairly short copyright terms, in particular, 60 for governmental works (which includes the military) so they'd have to have changed significantly since WWII. (Section 28A here). I presume they haven't, as that would make this image worthless for the intended purpose. Adam Cuerden(talk)07:50, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
According to Parachute Regiment (India), two of the units whose badges are depicted (6 Para and 7 Para) were formed in the early 1960s, so their logos are potentially not PD (though, to complicate things, the badge may be generic across all the battalions of the Indian Parachute Regiment and so pre-date the formation of these units) The main issue here, however, is the poor quality of this image. Nick-D (talk) 10:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Naturally, but it's worth considering the point, as, bad quality as the image is, it's still useful to at least some of the articles it's in. (Not convinced about Kargil War.). Adam Cuerden(talk)14:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per comments above. The subject matter is perfectly worthy of a featured-picture-quality image, but this isn't it. Here and here are examples of a FP-quality insignia. Spikebrennan (talk) 00:58, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good EV, especially for its colours. The Marine Iguana article suggests that only males are brightly coloured, and only during the mating season. It would be good to include this information in the caption. --Avenue (talk) 22:04, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is definitely some ambiguity, my understanding is that the iguanas found on Espanola are brightly colored all year round because of the concentrated pigments in their diet. Perhaps clarity in this area could be improved in the article Benjamint01:10, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose. Good quality, but some weak attributes at full screen. It's tough to get a proper amount of detail on all the white objects. Also composition, I think it would be more effective with only one or two people in the shot. ˉˉanetode╦╩18:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'd love to support the edit, but the colour/quality appears degraded from the original, as a kind of posterisation, I suppose, particularly noticeable on the prominent blue of the foreground wings. Did you make the adjustments from raw? Can you fix it? Maedin\talk22:00, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. 700mm and only 1/500th ... a lot better than what I've managed from boats. Did you have to take a whole heap of shots to get this sharp one? Benjamint11:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Probably 4/5 were sharp and a similar proportion for the kingfisher in calmer water (1/250th). The IS/Tripod probably helped, and the swell was not huge. The movement made it more difficult to keep the camera on target, but it was still considerably easier than trying to photograph seals in ~2.5m swell, 400mm f5.6 and a small boat at home was. JJ Harrison (talk) 05:06, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I was going to oppose based on the "distracting background", but I think seeing another bird there tells me something... J Milburn (talk) 00:08, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Cool panning shot of a racing greyhound at full extension. Good isolation of the subject on the track (hopefully that doesn't mean he was lagging behind? ^^). Promoted on Commons in January.
Oppose. Stitching errors visible at the top of the archway on the left tower. The temporary fence and dumpster are a little unsightly- are they always there? Is this the optimal time of day to shoot this subject, given the way that shadows are cast on the building? Spikebrennan (talk) 00:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK I'm working on a version with better stitching and sky, but the dumpster isn't so bad, IMHO, may even add EV, as the article mentions it was renovated... ... Also the shadows emphasise the architechture. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:43, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I really want to support this impressive shot. Cloning the dumpster would improve the picture, but the shadows are one of the best parts of the photo. Nergaal (talk) 23:03, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw I spent the whole day restitching, and fixing the sky and stitch errors, and forgot to save it and my laptop crashed. I'll do it again later. I'll be back! Aaadddaaammm (talk) 09:00, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK uploading a new version with restitching (and stitch errors "fixed"), better sky, a little bit of perspective correction and slightly altered colours. I'm not good enough to clone out the dumpster :( Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:18, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'd love to support this- a gorgeous pic of an interesting subject- but I am concerned about EV. Is there any chance some sourced discussion of the monument could be added to Otto Piene? If it is, this would get my support straight away. J Milburn (talk) 21:28, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've incorporated information about the memorial in the article about Otto Piene. Is that now in your taste? --kaʁstn12:50, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is absolutely no sense of scale at thumbnail size. When you view at full size, you realise (from steps and concrete cubes - which my brain assumes are about the the size as similar blocks it's seen) that it's quite big. I was a bit suprised. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 18:15, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
it's difficult and almost impossible to add a size comparison in the darkness which should have been seen at the thumb size next to a 30 metres high monument. At day it's much easier, see File:Halde Rheinpreußen, Grubenlampe, III retouched.jpg, but the special thing (the wow) with the illumination can just be seen at night. So I think there's nothing I can change. --kaʁstn21:47, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose It's absolutely not impossible to have a size comparison in this photo, there just isn't one. That said it is an amazing photo, with real wow factor, but it's almost misleading at thumbnail size (I had no idea of how big it was). Sorry! Aaadddaaammm (talk) 16:55, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Like the EV(multiple articles). IANAP but wonder if some cropping games might make it more stunning. TCO (talk) 20:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Regarding the EV, I hate to be a contrarian, but the locomotive is rather small. The image is large. Would a crop, perhaps, improve EV? Spikebrennan (talk) 20:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think a crop would spoil the composition. At the moment, the locomotive has good lead room, and the blue sky at top gives context/scale. Cropping would also reduce some of the EV—the picture is in use in Nordland Line, so the scenery is an important element, too. Maedin\talk21:10, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment For identification, it'd be nice if the leaves were a bit more in focus, though I know this is a popular way of setting out Flower FPs. Adam Cuerden(talk)10:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
it's the framing of the original image - the space above in the original version is of pure black, which indicates this is part of the medium used for digitisation (kodachrome slide or else). regards, Peter Weis (talk) 07:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support: The original should have been promoted imo (see Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Donald Pleasence). I can see some of the fixes in the edit, nothing most people would notice without a microscope. The tightness of the crop was noted in the previous discussion and making it tighter has made it worse. Honestly though, I think people are getting too wrapped up in the technical details. Most of the actor photos we get are random snaps at a convention or award ceremony, while this is a professionally done portrait with very high EV since it conveys something of the type of roles he was known for. I would hope that we'd be trying to encourage more contributions like this rather than worrying about cropping and whether there was a barely visible bit of lint on the negative.--RDBury (talk) 09:45, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'm not a big fan of the crop, but this is an excellent portrait anyway. The restoration has fixed up a lot more than "a barely visible bit of lint". The flaws were pretty glaring at full size. I'm glad the original was not promoted, as I don't believe we should promote images with significant defects than we can reasonably fix. I'd hope that maintaining high technical standards will encourage useful contributions like Peter's restoration of this image. --Avenue (talk) 10:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support; this is a very well-done portrait; as RDB says, the technical issues are not that big a deal. If Peter is right that this is the crop of the actual negative, than OK. Chick Bowen21:18, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support very nice shot with very high EV. I'd go as far as to say say that this and the two other bird shots nominated at the same time are reminiscent of shots by Fir which hopefully will be taken as high praise. Cat-five - talk20:18, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question: is this a significant moment in the race or just a representative snippet? The article is somewhat ambiguous; it mentions Shepard running off the planks but doesn't make clear whether the time lost was significant or whether it contributed to his eventually breaking down. Chick Bowen20:29, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm the major contributor to 1906 French Grand Prix. It would be very hard to say whether Shepard lost time as a result of running off, as he retired soon afterwards. Whether it contributed to his retirement... maybe. The wheels were fragile things and running off the road certainly wouldn't have helped. But I can say the video is a very useful addition to the article, which was unique in its use of plank roads (which were essentially a failure). Apterygial09:36, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Yeah, it's good for its age, but it's not good compared to what is available today. This same show was being offered until very recently, so I don't really see why we should promote something that is comparatively low quality.J Milburn (talk) 11:41, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
comment the Marineland was shut in 1987, I wouldnt exactly call 24 years ago very recent, digital photography wasnt exactly prolific in 87 in fact first consumer cameras werent on the market until 88. Gnangarra05:22, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Unless these dolphins are no longer kept in captivity. The image may be somewhat dated, but the subject is most likely not, making a modern photo possible and desirable. Jujutaculartalk17:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
This is the new updated Image I first took in 1995. It has wonderful light & color, and has been posted on the Wikipedia page for this structure as the main image for this Temple, located in Bangkok Thailand for over 2 years. First posted on: 21:21, 7 December 2009.
Support as nominator --WPPilot 00:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Oppose Flowers in the front distract from the subject, the angle is horrible, and the top of the Buddha is cut off of the shot just to name the top three reasons that come to mind. Cat-five - talk20:14, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I wish that the photo was taken from a straight-on angle rather than from the side. This angle just doesn't show as much. -- mcshadyplTC03:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Having been to Bangkok and visited a few of these reclining Buddhas, I just want to point out to folks here that many of these places have just enough space in the building for you to move around the Buddha. It is impossible to get a shot of the full length from the middle using a normal lense. You can only do it from the sides. Having said that, the flowers spoils this shot for me. SMasters (talk) 06:57, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That first picture looks like a painting. Unless they tore down the walls, I'm not sure how it's possible to get the shots required for the stitching. – SMasters (talk) 03:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The first does look like something that's not a photo eh. But yea, not really FP quality composition. Sorry, another oppose from me. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 18:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator Comment: I took this picture on a weekend, a few weeks ago and the place had not less then 400 people in it at the time the shot was taken. The flowers cover a flaw in the arm of the Buddha that you can see in the original version of this same photo that I took in 1995, just look at the pictures history. --WPPilot 03:47, 9 March 2011 (UTC) (WPPilot)
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Reason
A quality panorama showing how the venue was utilized for the occasion (I mean, who really puts a motor race in a football stadium?). Also has some EV in the Wembley Stadium article. Might benefit from some cropping on the sides to remove a few distracting elements, we'll see what reviewers think.
Support It has wow. I wondered about cropping, but really the stadium and spectators are part of the event too. I can't see any obvious stitching errors. It might benefit from a noise reduction in the sky. JJ Harrison (talk) 07:06, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that the stadium is important to the composition and the EV. The parts I thought about cropping were the person in white at right and the video screen at the left. Cowtowner (talk) 18:13, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This file is quite large. It might benefit from a scaled reduction in file size, which might help increase the sharpness visually. – SMasters (talk) 06:25, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Eastern painted turtle C. p. picta
Midland painted turtle C. p. marginata
Southern painted turtle C. p. dorsalis
Western painted turtle C. p. bellii
Reason
What's special about this image is the content and composition. This species of turtle is the most written about species (over 2000 science papers) and has been widely described in field guides, review articles, etc. I never find a really good way of understanding the subspecies descriptions though.
To differentiate the eastern and southern, the top view is most important. For the midland and western, you need to see the bottom shell view.
I collected the individual shots piece meal: three were special donations that I wrote to obtain, three I hunted down around the web, and then two were in article already. Jack Merridew started the composite view and then RexxS did quite a lot of work to crop, flip, etc. so all the images made sense. The 3/4 views for the top shell are deliberate (as straight top down, tends to lose discernability of the images given how the shells curve). Although we lack a scale in images, the sizes are "about right" in that southern subspecies is known as the smallest, then eastern, then midland, then western.
In a perfect world, I would go into the field collect all four specimens from heart of range territories, and use a light table and just shoot them all against some blank background. But I still think it's kind of an advance as is. Although the individual images are far from perfect, I just thought this was a concept to share for other article work (and it does make our painted turtle article more powerfully illustrated than the non-Wiki competition).
Also hoping that FP crew can push it further if it is short of star material (but somehow could get there). And Jack and RexxS are on content-creator strike and I hope this makes them smile and love teh Wiki.
I'm definitely nominating the whole thing as one schematic. Like you might have a drawing that shows evolution of man from a fish or whatever (iow, with multiple parts to it). I agree with the comments on the non-specialness of these as individual pictures, but my whole point was to show a concept. Anyhow...even if no star, I hope that sharing an idea sparks more things from others. All for teh good of teh Wiki.TCO (talk) 00:46, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I think J Milburn has been more dismissive of the format than deserved. This butterfly scale magnification series is a good example of how we've dealt with this type of set nomination before. FPC certainly can recognise the collection—however, I have to agree that pretty much all of the photos included here are too far below the FP mark individually. The image with the thumb, for example, particularly ruins it for me. I like the concept and think it would be feature-able, but the individual images need to be generally more consistent and have better quality and composition first. Maedin\talk21:40, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you. It's not good enough for FP. But I still felt it was a real advance over general practice on the wiki and over anything else I've seen on the painted turtle off-wiki. I'd like to let it run it's course, so at least I can have a positive influence on our articles (these teensy nugget of an idea that I have in terms of more analytical imagery). Plus I totally heart you for saying something kind.TCO (talk) 22:00, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, ^^ And I heart you for doing something different and putting the work into it. It's just the kind of super-informative, high-value content that we like . . . just, ya know, we're fussy, too, :pMaedin\talk22:19, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I actually have an eastern bottom shell view that does not have a thumb (more like the others). The problem is that the specimen has iron oxide staining of the plastron (something a percentage of specimens get depending on where they live) which discolors it. The issue is it ruins the classical "look" of the plastron. So I really need to go with the more helpful view of the animal, even if there is the darned thumb. I feel like I busted my ass so much to get what we even had so far. If it were just a matter of that one, I might try to go get another (although it really was a significant feat to somehow assemble all 8 cells with free licence pics).TCO (talk) 01:13, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just thinking out loud, but what if we had one of the photo jocks here, photoshop the pic? Would it be possible to fix the thumb? We could also go ahead and make the backgrounds all the same (maybe that plain white)? Or gravel? What's best? Should we try it for the top? Not trying to push a rope, but just thinking...01:39, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Photoshopping that image to remove the thumb would be too drastic, and would probably be considered innapropriate digital manipulation as far as FPC goes. In my opinion, showing all of them in natural habitats would be optimal (the top four are all pretty well composed IMO). But yea, none of them are up to par in terms of image quality. Jujutaculartalk04:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Just to clarify what I meant- this set as it stands now is worthy of recognition, but FPC is not the place to give it. I appreciate that sets have been and can be featured, and I appreciate that a similar set with stronger images could well pass, but I was meaning that, at this time, this set would not pass. J Milburn (talk) 15:13, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Despite the fact I had to crop it a ton (25 meters and a small bird, just about a 100% crop), I think this is one of my favourites. It was a shy bird and decided to disappear quickly, even at this distance.
Support very nice shot with very high EV. I'd go as far as to say say that this and the two other bird shots nominated at the same time are reminiscent of shots by Fir which hopefully will be taken as high praise. Cat-five - talk20:17, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Passable quality and given the crop percentage, I'd say pretty good. Some minor artifacts(?) on the tail- could you fix those? --Muhammad(talk)14:57, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think a technical photo of the camera without the casing would have much more EV. This picture doesn't really tell us anything - there's no sense of scale or position, either. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:53, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per above. This photo would be more interesting (at least to me) if the whole height of the camera was shown and possibly flashing at a speeding car or something. SpencerT♦C03:15, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As for as I can tell, the only completely blown pixels are near the top about a quarter of the way across, on a small round cloud. (Is there an easy way to check this with The Gimp?) Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator Comment. I have gone back the the files from this shoot and edited the original to suit the taste and coments above. --WPPilot 03:25, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Support as nominator --WPPilot 22:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
Oppose I can't find anything here that explicitly identifies Napa County or Napa Valley. It could be any vineyard anywhere in the world. It isn't even clear that this is morningtime. Anyway, surely Napa Valley AVA would be the main article for the nomination rather than the article for the county? Image needs a better caption both here and in the articles. Matthewedwards : Chat 04:32, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Not really the sort of useful image we would normally feature IMO, and there are a number of distracting elements (is that a cell phone tower? Some sort of radio tower anyway). It's not great compositionally IMO. Ðiliff«»(Talk)09:57, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is a little bit darker but I intentionally waited for the moment when there is no direct sunlight. I would like to avoid the strong contrast caused of the nearby high-rise buildings which throw a shade on the front elevation. --MrPanyGoff (talk) 09:29, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support There is some slight oversharpening visible around the edges of the bird. Image size is acceptable, but not particularly large. There is some vignetting. Bird's right wing (left in image) appears to have some chroma noise. Otherwise, it is an okay image and encyclopedic value is very strong especially with the female and juvenile to compare with. I suggest rotating this picture to look consistent compared with the pic of the female and the juvenile. Purpy Pupple (talk) 01:16, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(only replying to this one for the sake of clarity) I know we normally follow that rule but which passage is it in the criteria that actually states that? I would argue that it would be outweighed in this case anyway: we have three images which collectively have pretty high EV but would clutter the article if placed outside. If that's not mitigating I don't know what is. Placed them below the gallery with larger thumbnails, anybody have a better idea to integrate them into the article? Benjamint22:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've put this image in Frigatebird. I think many would be more likely to see these in flight than when landed. For birds, I'd argue that if a good field guide would picture something, then the EV is most likely good. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:06, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support I would move that this and the female image be promoted as a set. I think that this is an example where the two images complement each other in such a way that they have enhanced EV together. Cowtowner (talk) 18:25, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support as nominator --WPPilot 04:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Comment. I assume the brighter area in the sky and the water towards the right is a reflection from a window? It does detract from the aesthetics a bit... Ðiliff«»(Talk)09:45, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Removing the spot is a huge step in the right direction, but I'm not crazy about the washed out colours and lack of sharpness. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The whole image looks fuzzy, i'm assuming this was a helicoper shot, and as JJ Harrison and Adam said the washed out and long range look doesn't do the subject area justice. Cat-five - talk18:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support; lighting is nice. It might have more EV in the "crane" section of Container ship, since it shows the cranes better than the one that's there (though currently it's next to a paragraph about cranes anyway, further up). Chick Bowen23:33, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Clears the bar for this kind of image. I'd rather see it in Vehicles>Water if it is promoted though (we already have a few ship pictures like this there) Cowtowner (talk) 18:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
It's quite unusual to have a good "moving" shot of a car that's in focus, especially one as nice as this (you can even read the brake calipers). Has good encyclopedic value, showing the whole car in profile without shadows and without anything to distract alongside it. The image is used to illustrate the article about the car in the infobox. I don't think we have many car featured pictures, and it gained support at its peer review.
The uploader hasn't edited since 2009, but there is a "Will Ainsworth" on Flickr who is likely the uploader ([1]). I sent them a message there, hopefully they will drop by. My guess is that this was taken from another car. Jujutaculartalk13:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Second try (and not happy with the first nomination). I think it deserves the FP status for the excellent image quality and encyclopaedic value, showing the features of the breed and the characteristic resting posture. Maybe it is now time to have a featured cat.
Support - beautiful cat, beautiful picture, very clear and hard to capture given that cats never ever stay still for very long! --Thanks, Hadseys23:54, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good EV and quality. If I have no idea what a tabby cat is, and I open an encyclopedia, this is what I would want to see. – SMasters (talk) 07:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose good quality, good colors, but the composition isn't featured. The cat just sits the in middle of picture, the background is ugly. I miss something special, or maybe using of rule of thirds or the golden cut. That's just a common pet photo to me. --kaʁstn17:10, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Great perspective and the ONLY photo of the entire city. I fly a route that takes me down over Laguna and then up the ridge to get this perspective. Few people ever see this view of Laguna Beach. One of my personal favorite photos.
Split answer. If you look at the meta tags you can see that this picture was taken with a 15mm fisheye lens. The 15mm has no distortion at centerline, so what you see is for the most part the curviture of the earth. I was at about 3000 feet ASL (above sea level) and you do see the curve in the horizion when you get above the haze and see things from that perspective. The fact that it is just ABOVE centerline makes me think that it is both the earth as well as the lens that we see here, but more the earth then lens distortion for sure.
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Reason
Just a superb picture. It is of high standard and resolution and looks absolutely incredible. The subject (the bridge) is of great historical significance
Great picture; not very high resolution by current standards (particularly since the subject takes up a rather small percentage of the frame). It appears that an FP regular asked George quite a while ago if he was willing to upload a higher-resolution version and he responded by suggesting a different one. Chick Bowen22:29, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose low resolution and low EV - the image is concentrated on the shoreline, not the bridge, and the sky and water conditions seem highly unusual. Nick-D (talk) 03:53, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - although visually interesting, it's not very high resolution and the subject (the bridge) itself isn't the main focus of the picture - for an encyclopedia, we should be able to find out from the picture that the bridge is actually red! Also, the yellow sky looks a little oversaturated in post-production. Bobtalk10:39, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Last week there was a nomination of a photograph of Tripoli, which did not have sufficient quality to get very far, but I thought it was a worthwhile thing to try to do.[Addendum--I now realized I had my Tripolis mixed up.] This photo not only illustrates its subject better than any modern photographs of the tower on the web, it also shows the quality and precision of the work of the American Colony photographic division (I found an archeologist talking about the value of that work for archeology, and cited her in the American Colony article). I've cropped it, adjusted the levels slightly, and cloned out a lot of scratches, dust, and other damage, but all the cloning I've done is in the sky and ground; the building is untouched. The people in the image give a sense of scale; the composition (which I think is aesthetically quite good) shows the integration of the site into the modern infrastructure.
I agree it would be nice, but there isn't really any there--if you look at the original (linked as a tif from the image page) you can see I cropped probably less than 10 pixels below the border of the negative (and the shade of that bit of sky is off, which is common at the edge of the frame with a view camera like they used). Chick Bowen22:58, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Has Ev as its the lead image. It is a valued and quality image on Commons. It was nominated before but didnt pass by one vote, here is the old nomination Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/HMCS St. John's (FFH 340). A edited version was created after the nomination so i put the original and edited incase of any preference.
Support edited: lovely picture, crisp with a lot of details, big EV. The edit's colours are slightly brighter so I'd prefer that, but the original isn't bad either. -- gtdp(T)/(C)06:58, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support edit: Very nice and edit is an improvement. Had intended to support on the last nomination but it finished before I got a chance. Maedin\talk21:14, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'll play devils advocate and note that the ship is in need of a paint job. Navy ships get painted almost as often as sailors get haircuts, and this boat is about due. The composition is also less than spectacular. A shot of the ship underway or parked in a more aesthetically pleasing harbor would make for a more eye-catching image.Shroomydan (talk) 06:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hate WP:NPA specifically since I can't respond to comments like the above with what's actually deserved so I'll leave it to say that although I am by policy forbidden from calling you stupid this is one of the stupidest ocmments (note I'm criticizing the content of the comment not the commentor) I've ever seen on here. You hedge your bets by criticizing the composition so people will be less likely to criticize your comment, but seriously the paint job? There have been plenty of FP's of everything under the sun with new paint jobs, old paint jobs, rust, mold, slime, grease, hell even stuff on fire on occasion, Although it can't be required I'd honestly suggest you take a look at the archives to see other things that have been nominated and featured before commenting again.</rant> Cat-five - talk18:51, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
<formatting note> I split off my support to make it more clear and separate it from my comment above, hopefully that won't break anything but wanted to note it just in case. Cat-five - talk19:08, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment From what I can tell from the article, this ship is still in service. That means there will be future opportunities to photograph it. Having served in the navy for six years, I know that rust stains like those appearing on the bow in this picture can develop after a month or two at sea. Navy ships are painted several times a year. They can be painted at sea, by guys hanging over the side. We always painted my ship before pulling into a port where dignitaries were scheduled to visit the ship, so as to look good for a photo op. This is a good picture with fine EV, but the prominent rust stains on the bow detract from its beauty. The red thing in the background also draws my attention to those rust stains, and the industrial port setting provides a less than attractive background. If you look through the archives of featured ships, Cat-five, you will not see another modern navy ship displaying so much rust.Shroomydan (talk) 21:31, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are two pictures of contemporary warships at FP, neither of which have any hull visible which could show (or not) any rust! Of the civilian ships, at least one - File:Container Ship.jpg, passed this month - is visibly "tired", but others are much more polished. I'm not sure there's really much to go on here in terms of comparable images.
In general terms, I don't think the rust detracts from the image - whilst it is mildly unsightly and probably would be painted over later in the general run of things, it's "real", it's normal, and it shows the ship in a realistic day-to-day manner. Were the ship visibly half-way through being repainted, or if there were large scrapes down one side, for example, it would be reasonable to object that we're showing it in an unusually unfavourable light, but I don't really feel routine rusting reaches this point. Shimgray | talk | 16:28, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If it detracts at all I definitely think it doesn't detract to the point where this isn't FP worthy and just because the ship is still in service and will eventually be repainted doesn't mean that there will be features chances to get a shot that is overall this good of it in the future. Especially considering that others have commented but none have agreed enough to oppose as well, the oppose vote above seems specious, except in cases where there's a notable defect in the subject that detracts from it's EV quality of the subject has never really been considered relevant to FPC's when the quality of the image has been high, the size has been right, and the general EV has been unquestionable and especially on the last one I question the sincerity of anyone who would say that the EV is hurt by a little rust on the boat. Cat-five - talk19:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agree that the rust should not be taken too seriously. See the featured picture criteria: "A featured picture is not always required to be aesthetically pleasing" and "A picture's encyclopedic value is given priority over its artistic value." Jujutaculartalk19:38, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I went a little further with image clean-up in the article and left just three of the most useful/representative in the gallery. Would love to support this lovely picture, but have some EV concerns, due to the black of the wing feathers not being very well illustrated—hardly at all, really. Maedin\talk20:25, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose/but because: I agree with Jó Kritika; it could use some colour. It now looks like the last bird saved in the New Orleans oil disaster. For now I will oppose, but with just a final touch, I possibly will support it. Ρόμπστερ 1983☞Life's short, talk fast ☜22:50, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Very pretty bird, and a lovely composition. There's what looks to be a flaw to the right of the tail- could it perhaps be 'shopped out? J Milburn (talk) 15:23, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To the closer, I didn't come back in time to change my vote to "support", but note that I said I opposed until names were translated, which they have. Please consider that. :) Matthewedwards : Chat 03:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've translated as much as I can to English using en:wiki article names where there are multiple English versions. If I missed anything or another name is preferred, I'll gladly change those too. Makeemlighter (talk) 23:31, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I can't imagine that this is the best angle for illustrating the building, or the palace in general. As far as composition, I prefer this image of yours (of a different building in the palace), but image quality still a bit low. Jujutaculartalk13:02, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Ugly orange gloves and a metal disk with marker writing on it. The aesthetic qualities of this photo are way below standard for FP metals. I also question the EV. This photo shows that enriched uranium can be formed into a disk, but what else does it show? If not for the caption there would be no way to tell this is even uranium. A more feature worthy picture might include a radiation warning sign, a Geiger counter reading, and dramatic lighting.Shroomydan (talk) 02:33, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure you understand the point and the EV of the gloves. They need to stop both alpha and gamma radiations, and the bright color is probably necessary to notice staining (nobody wants some uranium oxide sticking on their hand without knowing). And yes, knowing that it can be formed into a disk is noteworthy, since for example a similar picture of the very related metal plutonium, would be glowing (possibly close to the critical mass) and completely unsafe to hold it in your hands. Among other things, this picture shows that uranium metal IS SAFE to handle with some relatively-small amount of protective gear. I am sure that possessing this much amount is strictly regulated, therefore the ID number put down with a marker (more EV). As for differentiating it, I don't know how much chemical experience you have, but essentially ALL metals look very similar in an inert atmosphere once the oxide layer is removed. Technically it is almost impossible to differentiate among most metals under rigorous conditions. Just take a look here. Also, the DOF of this picture points the viewer to the metal sample itself (further technical points). Nergaal (talk) 20:39, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The gloves would probably be sufficient to stop alpha and much beta radiation. They would probably only attenuate the amount of gamma radiation slightly. The real point of radiation suits is to protect against contamination with radioactive particles. Most alpha and beta decay sources are much more dangerous if you ingest them. The worker holding this would be kept safe by limiting his overall radiation exposure more than magic gloves. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thought about it, and I could actually see this as somewhat compelling, perhaps satisfying criterion 3. Thank you for the comments above Nergaal. I am withdrawing my oppose, but I'm not convinced enough to support. Jujutaculartalk02:15, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Criterion #3. Thank you for the explanation of the gloves Nergaal. I agree the photo demonstrates that you can hold enriched uranium provided that you wear protective gloves - Good EV. The image is still underwhelming. There is nothing about the photo that would entice me to click on it. Shroomydan (talk) 23:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The "XAT" reflection (at the top slightly left of centre) was the first thing I saw. Could we clone it out? I'm also not thrilled about the sharpness, or composition, but these things can be tricky in museums... Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can we have second opinion here from someone who's not making it up as he goes along? But the XAT thing, is what looks like a reflection of the letters XAT vertically above the helmet. Do you see it? You could use a image editing software, like photoshop or gimp to edit it out. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:39, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The XAT thing is weird, maybe a reflection in the glass. Was this image shot through a glass display case? The XAT could be cloned out, but the angle of the helmet and the dark shadow below it are too distracting. Maybe a hand-held light below the helmet could reduce the harsh shadow if you could manage it without causing glare on the glass.Shroomydan (talk) 06:31, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
It may not be the uttermost & best quality, though it does show the most important Egyptian pyramids, the Giza Plateau and the outskirts of Giza-city all in one. There are many maps of this plateau, but here is an aerial blueprint of it all.
Articles in which this image appears
at this moment: Egyptian pyramids, Giza Necropolis, Giza Plateau, Pyramid
FP category for this image
it could be several: artwork (is it art?), landscape (part of Egyptian landscape), culture (Egyptian culture), engineering and technology (build with 'π/pi'?), history (where to start?), places (Cairo, Giza, Egypt, etc.), sciences (again with the 'π/pi', and the way it is all build)… The pyramids are rather versatile. This photo could (mostly) be used in whatever way you want. These are universal buildings, and lots of theories are attached to them. Go wild, if you'd like.
Oppose - I really like the composition of this. It shows just how close the pyramids are to the city, as well as the size of the pyramids, and the vastness of Cairo. Unfortunately the quality is just too low for this to be a featured picture. Mahahahaneapneap (talk) 22:53, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Sorry. I agree that this is a very interesting picture, but I feel the image quality is just too low. Quality isn't everything, but this isn't really a unique shot, either. I hope this doesn't discourage- new faces at FPC are always appreciated! J Milburn (talk) 00:46, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment II Of course this does't discourage me! Adding a photo to FPC means that it is looked at in several ways, one of them being certain standards in terms of quality. And even I have to be honest: I have seen photos on this page that are way better (my guess is that there are a lot of high quality/professional photographers here on wikipedia). :) I think it's a good thing what you're all doing here. :) Ρόμπστερ 1983☞Life's short, talk fast ☜10:36, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Composition and encyclopedic value of the subject are good, but the image quality suffers greatly from the inferiority of the camera. Purpy Pupple (talk) 00:01, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I have to agree with everyone. It is a nice photo, but the camera just wasn't up to the task of taking a featured picture. Hope you stick around anyway, Robster. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:47, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is unlikely to get support here. The resolution is rather low, particularly since the subject of the image takes up a tiny portion of the frame. But then, higher resolution would just bring out more of the inherent weirdness of human skin. I'd suggest going at this in a different way, either hanging in air or against a neutral background, taken with a macro lens. Focus stacking may be necessary, as well; as it is the focus actually appears to be on the hand, with the raised portions of the pendant a tiny bit out-of-focus. Chick Bowen01:48, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
To me, this is not all that far off from FP quality. If it were perhaps a bit bigger (say 2000px wide), I would most likely support. The hand in the frame gives the viewer a size reference. It may be worth it to send the flickr user a message to see if you can get a higher resolution image. Jujutaculartalk12:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The composition seems to be fine and the subject is certainly encyclopedic, however, the main deficiencies of the image lie not only with the substandard resolution, but also the fact that basically half of the pendant is out of focus (especially the right side). As Chick Bowen mentioned, focus stacking may be the only way to remedy this. Hence I think that even a higher resolution image may not qualify for Featured Picture status. Purpy Pupple (talk) 23:55, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Harrison. Thanks for the comment. I also have a +2EV version of this image. The problem is that all the windows highlights are completely blown out, which makes them distracting on the composition. That's why I uploaded with version with 0 exposure bias. I can't see any other way of fixing this except by doing an HDR, which will introduce a set of other problems... I uploaded a second version, which you can check out here, I played with the curves to increase the exposure. However, honestly, this is certainly not the way you will see this place in real life. In reality, the palace has a very focused illumination, it is not overall brightly lit.--Murdockcrc (talk) 21:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
One thing you could try is (if you shot this with RAW) to export two or three images with varying exposure compensations (-2EV, 0EV and +2EV for example) and then exposure blend the three photos. I'm not saying you need to have taken three exposure bracketed photos, you can use the one RAW file for this as they contain more dynamic range than a typically contrasty JPEG. This usually does a good job of maintaining highlights without underexposing the rest of the image, and because you're blending from the same RAW image, you don't have the issues with ghosting that you might sometimes get from a bracketed HDR photo. Ðiliff«»(Talk)09:59, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Yes exactly - some of the whites are already blown in this version, so what it doesn't need is longer exposure. One could argue that it would make more sense to take the photo during the day, but I'm not going to! Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:27, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose original, alt 1 In it's current form. Blown highlights are acceptable here - the subject is the exterior of the building, not the glimpse of the inside through the windows. At any rate there are multiple exposures available to do some type of blending. JJ Harrison (talk) 10:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose. Completely agree with JJ, I was about to say the same thing myself. There's no particular detail of interest through the windows, so it makes sense to expose for the outside of the building and only try to preserve the highlights in the windows as a secondary concern. Ðiliff«»(Talk)10:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Hi all. Thank you for your feedback. I will try to edit the picture according to suggestions and will upload an alternative as soon as possible. --Murdockcrc (talk) 17:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative 1
With this second version I intend to incorporate the feedback of given so far. I improved the exposure of the palace by modifying the curves on the shadows and midtones. Also, I employed two tools called "High tonal width" and "Low tonal width" to try to make the exposure more vivid without clipping the highlights. Increased contrast and vibrancy. So here you go, you have two alternatives for voting. Thanks. --Murdockcrc (talk) 20:36, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if the contrast is significantly higher. In some ways, it looks lower contrast. But there is something a bit strange about the tonality and colours. Maybe it's the white balance. It's hard to know for sure what it should look like without having access to the original RAW files and/or having been there at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diliff (talk • contribs) 12:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative 2
I had more time to play with the image and I have uploaded this second version. Here I have honestly already reached my post-processing limit! I hope this version solves the exposure issue as well as the color problems of the first alternative. Your feedback on this second version will be highly appreciated. --Murdockcrc (talk) 15:25, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Nice, but that tail on the right is slightly distracting. On the other hand it fits well the infobox in this format. --Elekhh (talk) 00:55, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The backside of the other bird is unfortunate. Cropping it would leave the main bird without lead room, so I don't think there's a featurable solution. --99of9 (talk) 05:16, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support Nice composition of a pretty bird. My support is weak because I can see the vertical line on the log which separates the non-denoised bit of the log from the denoised background bit of the log. Any chance this could be blended in slowly?--99of9 (talk) 03:17, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 26 Mar 2011 at 14:33:46 (UTC)
Reason
Exciting aerial view of the central part of this picturesque Adriatic town. The image gives the entire idea of shape and proportions of the square as well as the connection with the bay.
Articles in which this image appears
Tartini Square (should be placed also in Piran after the eventual expansion of the article)
Weak support Complements the other articles well, and does show the connection with the bay. But the resolution is not stellar, and there's no reason why exactly the same photo couldn't be taken with a better camera or as a panorama. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 18:03, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it is clearly stated in the criteria: still images should be a minimum of 1000 pixels in width or height; so it completely meets the criteria ;) --MrPanyGoff (talk) 20:32, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, but you changed the emphasis in your quote - it's a minimum. And I'm still supporting this photo, I just think it could be better! :) Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:06, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support despite the limited resolution, as the subject is clearly depicted. I suspect is not an "aerial view" as in the nomination description, but from the top of a hill? Also added to Boris Podrecca, the designer of the square's current layout. --Elekhh (talk) 22:52, 17 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I feel that the picture of the nominate subspecies should lead the article, but this illustrates the major difference extremely well. J Milburn (talk) 15:27, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is a little patch on the cheek, so I'll fix that tomorrow or something. I don't believe the ground is overexposed though. It was near midday sun and basically sand. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:18, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Maybe the ground looks terrible, but the bird itself plays with the camera as Gloria Swanson tried in Sunset Boulevard ("No, I'm not that important, though I ám the star of it all"). In my opinion, this photo says more about the bird than the photographer, which is just what wikipedia needs! Big support! Ρόμπστερ 1983☞Life's short, talk fast ☜22:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I have to oppose due to the poor colours (or should I say, colour). Also, a really minor point, but the top of the tower is just too close to the top of the frame. Would it be possible to retake this photo in lighting conditions that give it a bit more contrast?? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 12:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It certainly could be. I liked the way the colour of the sky reflected off the material of the structure but as you say, perhaps there is too much of the one colour here. Harrison49 (talk) 14:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You'll notice the lack of good lighting caused a bit of noise as well. Also, make sure to compress images at a fairly high-quality setting, there are a few bits of compression artifacts in the image. I'm not sure about the surroundings of the tower, but if it is at all possible to get more of it in the frame (the bottom of the tower), that would be beneficial. Good work overall, hope you will re-take. Jujutaculartalk12:15, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I personally disagree, cropping above the road line would remove the foundation of the image, ruining the composition. A better fix would be finding a better location to get a panorama of the skyline. I will work on that. Jujutaculartalk04:09, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment While this is technically a very good photograph, it is not the best illustration of the species for that article. I have twice had to revert the change in image, which I now realise was made purely to further this nomination. One of the most notable traits of this crab is its agility and activity; showing a crab cowering in fear from the photographer is much less representative than an image which shows the crab in a more typical, active posture. I have looked for other articles where this image might be suited, and have not had much success. If Galápagos Wildlife were a half-way decent article, there may be room for it there (the photograph was taken in the Galápagos, after all), or there might be room for it in a "fauna of the Baja California peninsula" or "fauna of the Gulf of California" if such articles existed. While I would love to see another crustacean picture promoted, forcing an image in where better illustrations already exist is not the way to achieve it. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your explanation of why you removed the image from the species article; I do not, however, appreciate the explicit suggestion that I added this image to the article only to further this nomination, and I certainly did not "force" it in. Do be more gracious with your assumptions. A check of my contributions, from two days to two years ago, will show that I add lots of good images to articles and never nominate them. The only reason I replaced the infobox image with this one is because the resolution and sharpness are better and, I think, it is a clearer illustration of the chelae. I do not know anything about crab posture, but nothing in its pose here suggests to me that it is "cowering" in fear. I also, as I often do, had a look at the last dozen or so changes in the article to check if the same image I was adding had been previously removed or replaced for some reason. And, it was someone else who changed back to this image after your initial reversal yesterday; I wouldn't have done so (though "I prefer the previous image" is hardly sufficient as an encyclopaedic edit summary and I would have questioned you on it).
Having said that, withdraw. It does not have enough EV in list of tautonyms and I don't have time to research crab posture and confirm or argue Stemonitis's information. Since nominating the image it has been pointed out to me that the saturation is blown and I have not, from the jpg, been able to recover lost detail sufficiently and was contemplating withdrawal anyway. Maedin\talk08:14, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't withdraw it too soon. It has been reinserted at Grapsus grapsus, and while I have once again restored the original taxobox image as being the better illustration of the species for that purpose, I see no reason why we can't have both images in the article. I also can't see any problem with the saturation, but my understanding of the technical side is rather limited. --Stemonitis (talk) 19:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Waw! They talk about me here. So, as Maedin says, I submitted the image in the taxobox because I don't understand the reason to prefer the previous image. For me the Crab posture is very well, the colors is natural and the picture is remarkable for its quality. The previous picture isn't really better, it's the same posture for me... --Citron (talk) 22:06, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose Very dark; A curves adjustment, concentrating on the top right, would improve this greyish scan. Also needs a little sharpening. Adam Cuerden(talk)01:50, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is also this alternative image which is already a featured picture on the Spanish language Wikipedia, has a transparent background and is a higher resolution. - ZephyrisTalk12:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose Both are really low quality, compare them to this beautiful image [4], for example. I'm a big fan of DNA and I'd be disappointed to see such a low quality (also cliched) image featured just because it looks scientific. Also, how does it spinning help, one sees how it's 3D pretty clearly in a 2D picture already. And the spinning doesn't even spin in a way that shows the magic of DNA - how the base pairs fit together like lego. The bases are always shown from the side - like looking at a piece of paper from its side. </rant> Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yea, definitely higher resolution, and maybe try rotating in other ways, not just around the y axis, so we can see some of the details which are on the x-z plane. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:42, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've had a bit of a go making this elusive "best possible animation". I feel what we need to do is simplify the backbone, and maybe show the bases as 2D planes. I don't have any time to figure out how to do this at the moment - maybe in the next few days, but no promises, there must be an expert lurking here somewhere... Aaadddaaammm (talk) 20:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm kind of with Adam here: not really seeing what animation adds. My favorite of your images in the DNA article, Zephyris, is this one. I think an image of undamaged DNA with that level of detail would add to the article. Chick Bowen03:33, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would support that if it had a caption that might explain to me what I'm looking at. I read the relevant section of DNA as well as A-DNA and I don't really get it. Chick Bowen16:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I find that very clear and helpful. Let's see if it sticks as the main image at DNA. If so, I'd suggest you start a new nomination in a week or so. Chick Bowen03:02, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 Mar 2011 at 11:51:18 (UTC)
Reason
High EV and high quality scan of the original handwritten 1876 manuscript by John Joseph Woods of God Defend New Zealand, the national anthem of New Zealand.
Comment. This image is very yellow, presumably an accurate representation of the original manuscript, but wouldn't it be more useful to nudge the contrast up and the saturation down to improve readability? - ZephyrisTalk12:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]