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OriginalMatsumoto Castle in Matsumoto, Nagano prefecture, Japan.
Reason
Good composition, good quality and high EV
Articles in which this image appears
Matsumoto Castle, Japanese castle, Japanese architecture, List of National Treasures of Japan (castles)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
663highland

Promoted File:Matsumoto Castle05s5s4592.jpg - Spongie555 (talk) 04:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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OriginalWhite Plume Moth ♂ - Dorsal side
Reason
Good quality, high EV
Articles in which this image appears
Pterophorus pentadactyla, Pterophorus
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
Archaeodontosaurus

Promoted File:Pterophorus pentadactyla MHNT.jpg - Spongie555 (talk) 04:47, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalTerraces of Jebel Akhdar, a part of the Al Hajar Mountains range in Oman
Reason
Good view, high quality, high resolution
Articles in which this image appears
Jebel Akhdar (Oman)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
Morray

Promoted File:Jebel Akhdar view.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 06:13, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The Common Blue Damselfly is a European damselfly. It is common in all of Europe, except for Iceland.
Reason
High quality and being featured in commons [1]
Articles in which this image appears
Common Blue Damselfly
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
User:Mathias Krumbholz
I filled the FP categories gap. thanks for reminding. Alborzagros (talk) 13:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, thanks for nominating my picture. Yes this is pretty sure a female blue damselfly. It was IDed by our damselfly specialist in the german wp. But I'm not sure that this is a good picture for the taxobox because this one is a young one and the colouring isn't finished jet. So the colour will change a bit. @Fir: the pic isn't rotated. The shadows are this way because of the early morning sun. The pic was taken at ~6.30 in the morning and the sun wasn't that high. Regards Leviathan1983 (talk) 16:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:48, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Hoover Dam panoramic view from the Arizona side showing the penstock towers, the Nevada-side spillway entrance and the Mike O'Callaghan – Pat Tillman Memorial Bridge, also known as the Hoover Dam Bypass.
Reason
Excellent clarity, exposure and represents the subject well. Nominated 2x before by other readers. View image full size to appreciate it's details.
Articles in which this image appears
Hoover Dam
FP category for this image
Dams In Nevada
Creator
Kuczora
  • I disagree with the EV, it's the best image showing the lake, and as the result it may be worth going in Lake Mead as well. Theres only one other image on the Hoover Dam page that illustrates the lake in low-water as it currently is, and this is definitely the best of the two. For it's position it's probably good that it's further down, since it's a large panorama. It should probably be moved up into the Environmental impact section and the other image in that section removed, is my two cents on the placement. It could also be used more widely to illustrate articles like Drought and/or Drought in the United States. — raekyt 17:01, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I evaluated EV based on the stated articles in which this image appeared. If the image was included in the other articles and the FPC info updated, I would reconsider my vote on that. As far as illustrating drought, to me it is not obvious that the picture illustrates it. I am by no means an expert water-reservoir engineer, but then again, neither are most of our readers. Perhaps if you showed an image of both the lake at full capacity and the nom, it would better illustrate it. --WingtipvorteX PTT 19:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For example, I look at File:Drought.jpg and the first thing I think is drought. That is a nice image by the way, will have to nominate that one for FP. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
TBH that image just makes me think dry dirt, not drought. Drought to me is swaths of dead fields, trees, extremely low water in lakes, rivers, reservoir. Maybe this should be taken to the talk page for those articles, see what the editors there think, this is hardly the place to build consensus for inclusion in another article. ;-) — raekyt 02:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely something for the respective talk pages, on that I agree. Lots of ways to illustrate drought, and they will be very varied depending on our personal experiences with drought. --WingtipvorteX PTT 16:11, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Qantas Airbus A380 (VH-OQA) takes off from London Heathrow Airport, England. The main and nose undercarriage doors have not yet closed.
Reason
Great photograph. A tad bit grainy, but good composition and DOF. Above all, is its excellent EV, being the main image of two articles.
Articles in which this image appears
Aircraft, Qantas Flight 32, Aerospace industry in the United Kingdom, Science and technology in the United Kingdom, Civil engineering, United Kingdom
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Aeronautics and aviation/Civilian
Creator
Adrian Pingstone (talk)
Well, the article about the Quantas 32 accident says the aircraft's tail number was VH-OQA. That is the number on the airplane in the picture. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:49, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:49, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Photo is of the Blackwater and Chelmer Canal in Essex
Reason
Great photograph, Good EV, high quality, already awarded Good Quality image
Articles in which this image appears
Chelmer and Blackwater Navigation River Chelmer
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator
Danesman
  • Support as nominator --Danesman (talk) 14:23, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I don't think image quality is up to par here, not is the composition very interesting. I note that it was taken with a smartphone, and while this certainly doesn't prohibit candidacy, it does make it fairly difficult to achieve image quality necessarily, especially for relatively mundane landscape images, where image quality normally needs to be extremely good to impress. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Diliff. Definitely not great quality, focus appears to be on the water, making the trees blurry upon close inspection, composition is lacking, and the image doesn't appear to show anything special. --WingtipvorteX PTT 15:35, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:50, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The little village of Sainte-Enimie at the entrance of the Gorges du Tarn, seen from a picnic area on D986 road.
Reason
Great panoramic view of the commune, with high quality and high encyclopedic value
Articles in which this image appears
Sainte-Enimie, Les Plus Beaux Villages de France
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
Tobi 87
I mean that the image is already a featured image in the Wikimedia Commons. Different FP criteria than WP, but featured status in other wikis can be a determining factor. --WingtipvorteX PTT 23:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Sainte-Enimie-Gorges du Tarn-Frankreich.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:27, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The frontside (top) and backside of the 10,000 Belgian franc banknote of 1929, designed by Constant Montald, approximate size 220x134,5 mm (description).
Reason
From the original nomination by Brandmeister, "A very arty example of the oldschool banknotes, with inscriptions in several languages, notable designer. The bleed-through of the original scans has been largely fixed.". I addressed the dirt issues, but it was late in the nom and so this may not have had enough time for feedback. Worth another shot
Articles in which this image appears
Belgian franc
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
Creator
Constant Montald, scanned by the Museum of the National Bank of BelgiumBrandmeister and retouched by Crisco 1492
  • From the email:

    "In practice, the National Bank does not pursue possible infringements of its copyright on Belgian franc banknotes which were issued prior to 1944. The reason being that these banknotes can no longer be exchanged for euro notes at our counters. These banknotes have no residual monetary value. As a result, there is no objection against the reproduction of a 1929 Belgian franc banknote on the internet (even without respecting the ECB decision referred to above), at least as far as the National Bank's copyright is concerned."

The email also directed me to this document, pointing to section 2.3 f), which reads essentially that digital reproductions are considered legal (not necessarily copyrightwise, but from a currency law POV) that digital reproductions should be no greater than 72dpi and have "SPECIMEN" written across it in large, easily legible font.
I'm still confused. Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:04, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Since they are no longer legal tender they should just be treated as an artwork. Saffron Blaze (talk) 00:21, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, that one is a mess. Ordinarily, I can't speak for Belgium, ordinary copyright protection applies to the note/stamp/etc. This is held by the bank. What are standard Belgian copyright terms? The problem here is that "In practice, the National Bank does not pursue possible infringements of its copyright on Belgian franc banknotes which were issued prior to 1944. The reason being that these banknotes can no longer be exchanged for euro notes at our counters. These banknotes have no residual monetary value." sounds like a mixture of this and the below point.
There is then a separate set of rules that affect things like banknotes only, that deal with the possibilities for misuse. Obviously what that is aimed at is minimising forgeries. If you can no longer use a forgery of it, then common sense says that that sort of protection shouldn't apply – but that doesn't mean the law necessarily reflects common sense. (Assuming Belgium works like the other systems I've seen.) If we trust the template, and I don't know on what basis it was drawn up, then it seems to check out?Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 11:15, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I object. The bank may claim copyright even if the content is in the Public Domain. We have seen this happen in the past. Who is the artist? The bank can hold corporate copyright maybe, but those too expire. The law is unclear about this. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 08:45, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
  • The current license does not cover notes no longer accepted as legal tender. The bank does not have anything to protect as they are just pieces of paper with artwork on them. They have no more legal standing or protection than a lithograph from the same time. Saffron Blaze (talk) 11:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfortunately that is not reason enough for a free license on its own. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 18:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Not-free until proven otherwise had been the standard practice on Wikipedia since it's creation more or less. "They probably wouldn't care" has never been a free license. My point is what the bank thinks is irrelevant if the files are old enough to count as free. If bank still holds the copyright (somehow) asking them to release the old currency with a free license is a difficult task. The government probably owns the copyright, not the bank. Currency IP may for example belong to the Belgian monarchy. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 04:51, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
  • I wholly agree. These are no longer currency. As such the bank has no standing in the matter with respect to protetion of legal tenders. Given this, the notes fall under usual IP protections. Looking at the date they are PD in the coutry of origin. Saffron Blaze (talk) 09:30, 27 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The key words seem to be "there is no objection against the reproduction of a 1929 Belgian franc banknote on the internet (even without respecting the ECB decision referred to above), at least as far as the National Bank's copyright is concerned". The Bank's copyright is concerned in the file, so don't see any obstacle in OTRS confirmation and subsequent promotion. Brandmeistertalk 10:47, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The OTRS reply I received seemed to think that the email indicated that the file was okayed for Wikimedia use by the bank (which is nowhere in that email, so...). I think PD-Belgium may apply as well, as it was published more than 70 years ago by an institution and not individual author.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:26, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not convinced here. The bank has said that it would not be within their policy to persue copyright complaints of this type, and that they have no objection to it appearing online. This is very different from it being in the public domain or them giving carte blanche with regards to its use. That said, if this genuinely is an anonymous work, PD-Belgium would seem to apply for the artwork. I'd recommend that this is clarified on the image page. IANAL. J Milburn (talk) 09:19, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:48, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalOlive ridley turtle nesting on Escobilla Beach, Oaxaca, Mexico
Reason
Good EV for the species and the sanctuary article. I'm not highly familiar with technical issues such as composition and lighting, but this is already an FP at Commons (it was picture of the day last year), so presumably it's high quality in those areas as well.
Articles in which this image appears
Olive ridley sea turtle, Playa de Escobilla Sanctuary, a projectspace page, and a userpage
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Reptiles
Creator
Claudio Giovenzana www.longwalk.it
Alt 1

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Dry earth in the Sonoran Desert, Sonora - Mexico.
Reason
Image is well focused, shows great amount of detail and has decent composition (as decent as can be for the subject of the image). Above all else, the EV of this image is very high.
Articles in which this image appears
Drought, Brown
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Natural phenomena/Others
Creator
Tomas Castelazo
  • Oppose Drought is by definition below average rainfall. I can't see any evidence that this shot, taken in a desert is indicative of that. Deserts naturally have low amounts of precipitation. JJ Harrison (talk) 03:05, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The drought article states: "A drought is an extended period of months or years when a region notes a deficiency in its water supply..." Arguably, deserts have a deficiency in their water supply, and seeing as it can be a period of years, some deserts may qualify. Just some thoughts. --WingtipvorteX PTT 16:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Original – Cutaway of an M4A4 Sherman Light Tank of the World War II era United States Army.
Reason
This is a spectacular and visually stunning image of a World War II era M4 Sherman Tank, with the major components, weaponry, and operating features labeled for identification. I was taken with the image, and elected to place it here for Featured Picture consideration. This file is located on Wikimedia Commons, and has already obtained featured status on the Commons and on the German Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears
M4 Sherman
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Land
Creator
Commons User:Malyszkz

Promoted File:M4A4 cutaway.svg --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:33, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalLothar Späth, 2011
Reason
Another try for this nomination
Articles in which this image appears
Lothar Späth
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
Felix König

Promoted File:Lothar Späth Ilsfeld 2011.JPG --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:38, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Space shuttle Atlantis (foreground) sits on Launch Pad A and Endeavour on Launch Pad B at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. At the left of each shuttle are the open rotating service structures with the payload changeout rooms revealed. The rotating service structures provide protection for weather and access to the shuttle. For the first time since July 2001, two shuttles were on the launch pads at the same time. Endeavour stood by at pad B in the unlikely event that a rescue mission was necessary during Atlantis' STS-125 mission to repair NASA's Hubble Space Telescope. The mission was slated to launch October 10 2008. After Endeavour was cleared from its duty as a rescue spacecraft, it was be moved to Launch Pad 39A for its STS-126 mission to the International Space Station.
Reason
Meets all WP:WIAFP. Has very high EV and superb composition.
Articles in which this image appears
STS-3xx, STS-400, Space Shuttle
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Getting there
Creator
NASA
Perhaps if someone obtained the original image from the NASA site and someone good with Photoshop/GIMP skills edited it. --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I hope someone steps up. It just needs a touch up. Here's the full resolution image on NASA's website. — Kieff | Talk 22:05, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like it need a horizon alignment and a tad bit of an increase in vibrancy. By white parts you mean the clouds, correct? Any other changes you think need happen? --WingtipvorteX PTT 22:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, the white parts are the launch pad and the shuttle. Basically, any white thing that's under the Sun is oversaturated, so it shows up as pure white, losing details. Compare the original to the current version. You can see the details in the original. — Kieff | Talk 23:55, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see that now. Yes, very true. Something to be fixed in the long run. Maybe put in a request in the Graphics Lab. --WingtipvorteX PTT 18:17, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The original NASA image shows the entire tower. The problem is that the horizon is not well aligned, so when someone fixed that, they would have cropped it to the point where they had to remove some of the tower. --WingtipvorteX PTT 23:44, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I thought that the image was incomplete because the left side seems as if things continued to the other side, but it was just the initial view: comparing the base with the base in the background, it is clear that such initial view was mistaken, the photo is complete. Sorry if I was not clear enough. I can't comment on the technical properties of the photo because I'm not an expert in such topics, but if the others have no complains, then I follow their perspective on that aspect, and reconfirm my full support. Cambalachero (talk) 00:12, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That would be it...--WingtipvorteX PTT 21:08, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Space shuttles Atlantis (STS-125) and Endeavour (STS-400) on launch pads.jpg --Dusty777 17:32, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A pair of Ruddy Shelduck
Reason
Interesting composition, high EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears
Ruddy Shelduck
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
Michael Gäbler
  • the DOF is too wide, causing the background to have too much detail and therefore distracting from the subject, and
  • the leaves on the ground are too close a color to the birds to make the birds really stand out.
Those two things aside, it clearly meets criteria for FP. --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:31, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:A couple of Tadorna ferruginea.jpg --Dusty777 17:50, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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OriginalEuropean Wildcat in the Wisentgehege Springe game park, near Springe, Hanover, Germany
Reason
Good EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears
European Wildcat, Lapiş Forest, Cheile Nerei-Beușnița National Park, List of endemic species of the British Isles
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator
Michael Gäbler
  • Neutral I'm sitting on the fence for now. How much EV is there in just the face? To me it looks like many other domesticated cats but from its name I have to assume it isn't. In fact, upon reading the article, we learn that it's bulkier than a house cat but their weights are similar, and that it's fur and size are it's distinguishing traits. Unfortunately we don't get to see these things. So if other commenters aren't concerned I'll strike my neutral. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 03:53, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Felis silvestris silvestris.jpg --Cal Engime (talk) 23:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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Original – Copulating adults of Papilio ulysses at the butterfly zoo in the palm house near the Burggarten in Vienna, Austria. Female is above.
Reason
Good EV, high quality
Articles in which this image appears
Papilio ulysses
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
Michael Gäbler
I would also like to know the answer to that question before casting a vote. --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:26, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A photo of the copulating pair is good to highlight the difference between the male and female including the size difference. For butterflies, most look similar but the female will be bigger and brighter/duller in colors. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 08:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with you there, I think it should also be in the image description. --WingtipvorteX PTT 17:57, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, my point was that it is not immediately noticeable, so the caption might help in the identification. --WingtipvorteX PTT 17:57, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Edited the article and file description and informed the author about this who is not a regular here. -- Jkadavoor (talk) 04:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Papilio ulysses (Linnaeus, 1758).jpg --Julia\talk 10:00, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The North American mushroom species Mycena atkinsoniana grows in leaf litter, often under oaks.
Reason
High resolution; attractive; good EV, as it shows typical habitat, typical growth habit, and the uprooted specimens reveal the characteristic maroon-colored edge of the gills.
Articles in which this image appears
Mycena atkinsoniana
FP category for this image
WP:FP#Fungi
Creator
Dan Molter (Shroomydan)

Promoted File:Mycena atkinsoniana 60804.jpg --Julia\talk 13:11, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalSt. Paul's Church, Basel
Reason
High EV, good quality
Articles in which this image appears
St. Paul's Church, Basel, List of cultural property of national significance in Switzerland: Basel-Stadt
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Taxiarchos228
No, you are not. There isn't one, sorry if it seemed that way. They had looked to me like they were praying, especially the person (lady?) in the back who appears to have her head bowed. Maybe they are not, hence the 'apparently' in the original comment. --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:01, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Basel - Pauluskirche1.jpg --Julia\talk 13:23, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalCydalima perspectalis larva
Reason
Good quality and EV
Articles in which this image appears
Cydalima perspectalis
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
Böhringer

Promoted File:Raupe des Buchsbaumzünsler, Cydalima perspectalis 24.JPG --Julia\talk 13:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalTachina praeceps, a fly of the Tachinidae familiy. Tachinids are usually robust and bristly flies, with three-segmented antennae and large calypters. Some exhibit brilliant colors.
Alternative
Reason
A high quality and very detaild depiction of a tachinid fly, illustrating well the features described in the three articles
Articles in which this image appears
Brachycera, Tachina, Calypter
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
Alvesgaspar (talk)

Promoted File:Fly June 2009-1.jpg --Dusty777 18:31, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – View of the norther range of the Langkofel with the Langkofel hut
Reason
Detailed view of the northen side of the range
Articles in which this image appears
Langkofel Group
FP category for this image
Category:Featured pictures by country
Creator
Moroder
  • Support as nominator --Moroderen (talk) 16:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Not a fan of the processing used on the photo (seems quite washed out, like it was exposure blended or something, but without the necessary contrast boost). Other than that though, the EV is undeniable and the scene is pretty impressive. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 22:56, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral. There is a little EV, though I think there are better images in the article. Image quality is a concern of mine. It is not well focused when inspected up close. What Diliff refers to is HDR (multiple-exposures) without the tone mapping. No blame on the creator for that, tone mapping software is expensive. Bare-bones HDR is always going to look better than a single exposure. So until someone can convince me either way, I'll be neutral. --WingtipvorteX PTT 23:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    info I stopped doing multiple exposure in the open air because of the blurry results due to the wind on trees. I did not process the image in any way besides some retouching of the sky do to panorama stitching. I think of EV value giving more detailed aspects of the mountain, youseful I hope for hikers and climbers. Thanks for the review --Moroderen (talk) 06:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, interesting. Scratch that. You are right about the wind, drives me crazy too. Just saw a video on Photoshop CS6, it takes care of the motion for you when doing HDR. That aside, I'm still neutral on the image. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:40, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There's really no substitute for a lack of movement in multiple exposures, everything else is just an attempt to fudge it, but it rarely works particularly well. Think about it - you lose the benefit of the high dynamic range of multiple exposures if you only take the information from a single frame and reject the rest because they didn't align. In any case, I didn't say it was HDR, just that it looked like an exposure blended image lacking in contrast. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:40, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I guess it highly depends on how you mix the different exposures. If for a certain section of an image you only use one exposure, then it doesn't cause a problem. If you are blending, then it does, so long as you are doing so manually. I don't know how PS CS6 does it, it is even possible it 'moves' small sections of the images to align it all. I can only guess, as I only saw a video on it.
My apologies for my misunderstanding of your statement. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:12, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Grand Duke Henri at the 2009 Charlemagne Prize ceremony wearing his Charlemagne Prize
Reason
High EV as lead image also good quality and a quality image on Commons
Articles in which this image appears
Henri, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, List of monarchs of Luxembourg, Monarchies in Europe
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Royalty
Creator
א
Apparently powerful people get the fancy ribbon, see File:KingofSpain.jpg. He has it too. :) --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:57, 29 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
File:Angela Merkel, Karlspreisverleihung 2008 - 1.jpg shows the full medal with ribbon; it's the Charlemagne Prize. GRAPPLE X 03:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A view of Hetch Hetchy Reservoir from the Hetch Hetchy Trail
Reason
Good view of Hetch Hetchy
Articles in which this image appears
Hetch Hetchy Reservoir
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator
King of Hearts

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A satellite image of the Philippines as seen in March 2002.
Reason
High EV as lead image also good quality of the image also a good view of the Philippines from space
Articles in which this image appears
Outline of the Philippines
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking back
Creator
Hautala
Thank you. I guess I would have known that if I'd read the image description. Silly me. --WingtipvorteX PTT 15:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
For completeness, it seems that FPC is divided with regards thermal anomalies: this nomination was opposed until the red outline was removed, but this one passed almost without comment. I suppose that it is to do with the encyclopaedic reason for the image. In my opinion, given that the fires here are sparse and not of value to the image, I think it detracts from the nomination. 31.53.44.76 (talk) 23:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Leaders of the reform movement in Spain. Jose Rizal (left), Marcelo del Pilar (middle), Mariano Ponce (right)
Reason
High EV also good quality of image
Articles in which this image appears
19th century, Ilustrado, José Rizal, Katipunan, Mariano Ponce, Philippine Revolution, Philippines
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others
Creator
Lynyrd Salapare

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:08, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalSony Alpha 77 with 16-50mm f/2.8 SSM lens
Reason
High quality and EV
Articles in which this image appears
Sony Alpha 77
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Photographic techniques, terms, and equipment
Creator
SkywalkerPL

Promoted File:Sony A77.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 01:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalEmilio Aguinaldo, the first Philippine President
Alternative - Another version of the image.
Reason
It is available in the public domain or under a free license, the image is used in one or more articles and the image is among the best examples of a given subject.
Articles in which this image appears
1899 in the Philippines, 1900 in the Philippines, Emilio Aguinaldo, List of Philippine Presidents by longevity, List of Presidents of the Philippines, List of unofficial Presidents of the Philippines, Philippine Revolution, San Juan, Batangas, Tagalog people
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others
Creator
Unknown, Date 1899
Not yet. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:01, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Questions Is this the best image there is of Emilio Aguinaldo? Can we get a better scan?
For such a low quality image, there needs to be a lot of EV, and while there is some, I simply don't feel as is the image adds a lot to any of the many articles it is a part of. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:01, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I guess this is somewhat the best image of Emilio Aguinaldo. But I saw another version of the image. (Alternative image) Mediran talk 00:58, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:26, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Palm and sunset in Minoo Island (Persian Gulf). Sample of Silhouette
Reason
High quality, suitable framing, nicely composition of color
Articles in which this image appears
Palm ,sunset ,Minoo Island ,Silhouette and Persian Gulf
FP category for this image
Creator
درفش کاویانی
I edited photo caption and added a little encyclopedic informative note. So dear Tomer T! would you please review your notion? thanks a million. Alborzagros (talk) 13:17, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I'm sorry- this has already been removed from some of the articles, and I suspect it will be removed from others. There are many, many shots like this, and it doesn't really tell us much from an encyclopedic perspective. Also, the second tree (on the right) detracts from the main subject, and some of the outer-branches of the main tree are not in the frame. J Milburn (talk) 22:10, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Issues with EV. First, the focus is on the tree, so the image has low ev in geographical articles since you cannot see the landscape. In the article about the tree species, you don't get a good look at the detail in the tree itself because of the sunset effect, so ev is lower in that respect. SpencerT♦C 07:44, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose A great commons FPC, but the EV is simply not there. --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Wingtipvortex and Spencer. Also, the sunset effect was nothing because the tree blocked it. Mediran talk 11:15, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Point Reyes Lighthouse is a lighthouse in the Gulf of Farallones
Reason
High Ev as lead image, good quality, Featured on Commons
Articles in which this image appears
Point Reyes Lighthouse
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Frank Schulenburg

Promoted File:Point Reyes Lighthouse (April 2012).jpg --King of 00:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalLoren Pankratz 2011
Reason
High EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears
Loren Pankratz
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator
Sgerbic
  • Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 13:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'm a little concerned about the copyright of this image. Such studio shots are rarely free. Though the uploader claims to be a studio photographer, my concern is the following, was Loren Pankratz notified that his picture would be released under a free license? In the United States (where I'm assuming the pic was taken), in creative work for hire (such as a studio shot) the copyright belongs to the one who paid for the work. The creator may still get credit for having created the work, but has no copyright rights unless an agreement was signed with the one who paid for the work. Once that is cleared up, I will support the image per the nom. --WingtipvorteX PTT 15:20, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • IANAL, but my understanding is that it is the other way around. Copyright belongs to the photographer, unless an agreement is signed passing it over to the subject. In this case, I have little doubt that the uploader is the photographer if they claim to be so, and I would trust a professional photographer to know the copyright status of their own photographs. J Milburn (talk) 22:04, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • Further, though this is posed, I do not believe that it is a studio shot. I suspect that it was taken on the same day as the other photos of the subject from this photographer, just against a neutral background. The author may be able to confirm this. J Milburn (talk) 22:07, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly. Has anyone asked the author? --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I would have to do more research to be sure. What I do know, from when I registered some of my works with the copyright office, is that the artwork I created at someone's request for hire legally belonged to the one that paid me for it. There may be a different provision for photographers. If there isn't, I'm not sure this has been ever tested in court. --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Loren Pankratz 2011.jpg --King of 01:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalMorpho peleides, an iridescent tropical butterfly found in Mexico, Central America, northern South America, Paraguay, and Trinidad.
Reason
Illustrates the iridescent wings of this species well plus good background.
Articles in which this image appears
Morpho peleides
FP category for this image
Animals/Insects
Creator
ComputerHotline

Promoted File:Morpho peleides 2.jpg --King of 01:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Reason
High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, good quality, also a good image of SpongeBob on a parade
Articles in which this image appears
SpongeBob SquarePants
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment
Creator
Jorgebarrios

Not Promoted --King of 01:38, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Collection of various plant foods
Reason
Free high-quality photograph. I think this is one of the best pictures on Wikipedia and is a professional, colorful and interesting image of various plant foods.
Articles in which this image appears
Food, Portal:Food
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Food and drink
Creator
Keith Weller, USDA ARS

Not Promoted --King of 03:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The interior of Basilica of San Sebastian, the only all-steel church in Asia.
Reason
High EV, has a free license, it has significant encyclopedic value to an article, good view of the interior of the church.
Articles in which this image appears
Basilica of San Sebastian, Manila, Manila
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Anyo Niminus

Not Promoted --King of 18:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Dissection of Asterias rubens
Reason
High EV, is of high resolution. It is also a stunning image of the dissection of an Asterias rubens. This file is located on Wikimedia Commons, and has already obtained featured picture status on the Commons and on the Spanish Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears
Common starfish, Madreporite, Starfish
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Others
Creator
Lycaon (Hans Hillewaert)

Promoted File:Asterias rubens, dissection.svg --King of 18:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Mostar - Old Town panorama. The picture was taken from the minaret of Koski Mehmed Pasha Mosque , which is just opposite Stari Most ("The Old Bridge") looking on the same part of the Neretva river.
Reason
High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, a fascinating panorama of the old town of Mostar. The image has already achieved featured picture status on Spanish language Wikipedia, Persian language Wikipedia, Hungarian language Wikipedia, Indonesian language Wikipedia, Turkish language Wikipedia and on the Vietnamese language Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears
Bosnia and Herzegovina
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
Ramirez

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:49, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalLady Godiva by John Collier
Reason
A good image of Lady Godiva also the image is among the best examples of a given subject, is of high resolution, has a free license
Articles in which this image appears
History of Coventry, John Collier (artist), Lady Godiva
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Artwork/Others
Creator
John Collier, 1898 (Uploader: Hautala)

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 02:49, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalDinant on river Meuse
Reason
High EV and quality. FP in Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Dinant, Meuse
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator
MJJR

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Original – Monument to the 1896 Revolution in the University of the Philippines Diliman.
Reason
I think it has passed the criteria. It has high resolution and had no digital editing.
Articles in which this image appears
Philippine Revolution
FP category for this image
Cultural heritage monuments in the Philippines
Creator
Arius1998

Not Promoted --King of 05:13, 15 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A view of Mt. Ararat from Khor Virap, Armenia
Reason
High EV, the image is among the best examples of a given subject, also a fascinating view of Mt. Ararat from Khor Virap, Armenia. It was also achieved the featured picture status on the Azerbaijani Wikipedia and on the Turkish Wikipedia
Articles in which this image appears
Armenia, Armenia–Turkey relations, Christianity by country, Khor Virap, Mount Ararat, Mountain
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes
Creator
MrAndrew47 (Andrew Behesnilian)

Not Promoted --King of 18:52, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalJacinta and Francisco Marto with Lucia Santos taken in 1917 during the apparitions
Reason
High Ev as lead image in Jacinta and Francisco Marto article. Very good quality image of all three of the children in one picture during the time of the apparitions
Articles in which this image appears
Jacinta and Francisco Marto, Lucia Santos, Our Lady of Fatima
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator
Unknown, restored by Centpacrr

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Original – The Metropolitan Opera House (left) and Avery Fisher Hall (right) at twilight
Reason
High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, high resolution, a stunning view at twilight
Articles in which this image appears
America's Favorite Architecture, Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts, New York City, The arts
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Panoramio/Nils Olander (Uploader: Jorgebarrios)

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The covered court of the museum and art gallery in 2011
Reason
High EV, has an encyclopedic value on an article, a good picture of the covered court of the Herbert Art Gallery and Museum
Articles in which this image appears
Herbert Art Gallery and Museum
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator
Cmglee

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:14, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A B-24 bomber flies in front of smoke from a burning oil refinery during Operation Tidal Wave, with intact stacks of the refinery visible in the background.
Reason
High-resolution, public domain image of enormous EV described as "one of the most famous images of World War II."
Articles in which this image appears
Operation Tidal Wave, Oil Campaign of World War II, Strategic bombing during World War II, Lewis H. Brereton, Civilian casualties of strategic bombing, Bulgaria–United States relations
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/World War II
Creator
United States Air Force/Jerry Jostwick

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A three dimensional model of paclitaxel. Paclitaxel is a drug used in the treatment of cancer.
Reason
Large clear model of paclitaxel. I'm not qualified to say that it's 100% accurate but I've compared it to the 2D model and I see a lot of agreement between the two.
Articles in which this image appears
Paclitaxel
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator
Itineranttrader

* Support as nominator --Pine 06:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC) Withdraw Pine 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. I'm not sure that setting a precedent with regards to this type of diagram is a good idea. Further, this could reasonably be an svg. J Milburn (talk) 16:37, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose as it could easily be an svg. I am not opposed however, to these diagrams becoming FP if they have enough EV, which this one does. --WingtipvorteX PTT 17:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • My worry is that just about any chemical notable enough to have an article can be (and usually is) illustrated by a picture like this. All of them have very high EV. Do we really want to promote them all? (Something similar comes up from time to time with flags, and could equally hold for a number of other things...) J Milburn (talk) 21:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You are right. The average reader won't look at these pictures and instantly recognize which molecules they are. --WingtipvorteX PTT 18:16, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replying to J Milburn's comment, "My worry is that just about any chemical notable enough to have an article can be (and usually is) illustrated by a picture like this. All of them have very high EV. Do we really want to promote them all?" I would reply that the same can be said about bird photos, and we promote tons of bird photos. This is not an easily drawn two dimensional image of a molecule, which I think would be more analogous to a flag. This is a three dimensional image that is not so easily created. I don't think we'd promote tons of two dimensional drawings of molecules or flags. I think the better analogy for a three dimensional model of a molecule is our current practice with bird photos. Pine 08:12, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose but three dimensional images are easily created: feed coordinates file to freely available visualisation software, rotate until it looks nice, press export. When there's a way of doing that for animals, let me know. --99of9 (talk) 00:12, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • The last time I worked with 3D modeling software, which admittedly was some years ago, it would have taken me a few hours to create an image like this. Perhaps there is now software that quickly generates 3d images of any molecule from a 2d map, but I'm not aware of it. Pine 05:32, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The chemical element bismuth as a synthetic made crystal.
Reason
High EV, awesome image. The image has been a featured picture on the German language Wikipedia, Persian language Wikipedia and on the Polish language Wikipedia
Articles in which this image appears
Bismuth, Iridescence
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Materials science
Creator
Alchemist-hp
The one we are nominating here is artificially grown in a "stair-step crystal structure." The other one has a different pattern (likely artificial as well, but unconfirmed). They both show different arrangements of the crystal, so in my opinion, they both add to the article. That is all it was, my opinion. Please don't get angry over it. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's a reasonable explanation- thanks for the clarification. I disagree, but I can at least understand where you're coming from. J Milburn (talk) 21:18, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongly held opinion: we get images similar to other images all the time at FP, sometimes images taken by the same uploader of the same subject; sometimes the same view of a historic monument. And we decline them precisely because we have a similar FP; if they are better they replace that FP sometimes, too. However this image is the same and we aren't applying the same criterion. And I would wager we would return to that criterion afterwards, but I'd rather we either did or did not consistently apply the principle. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:58, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A good point Grandiose. Could you provide us with links to instances where this has happened? Perhaps that is something to put in the criteria. I agree with you 100% that consistency is a must. --WingtipvorteX PTT 21:48, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/ Pāhoehoe ʻaʻā flows at The Big Island of Hawaii is a decent example – it's clearly implied there that if the shots were of the same thing that would be a problem. Things aren't as clear as I recalled, or maybe they were, I haven't had real time to investigate, as can be seen here. Perhaps we could reject the notion outright and be done with it. Needs talkpage discussion I think. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:58, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Another controversial one is this; which finally end up as his temporary (I hope and wish) decision to refrain from further contributions. We have to handle such cases very carefully without hurting any. Here both images are from same contributor; so not a big issue. Jkadavoor (talk) 08:40, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Trying to avoid hurting people's feelings is nice, but it's not actually what we're trying to do here. Instead, we should be frankly trying to assess the encyclopedic value of pictures, and anyone with two braincells to rub together can see that two near-identical images can not both be adding enormously to an article; almost by definition, one must be redundant to the other. A redundant image cannot be a featured picture. Think about it. J Milburn (talk) 19:51, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't disagree on the redundancy. This is a simple as having the community resolve to place this in the criteria. Easier said than done, I know. But for now, we have to work with how the criteria is. I would support a clarification on EV. The problem is that it is very subjective, how do you define if two pictures are too similar? Different objects? Different angles? I do propose we take this to the talk page and get some strong feedback from the community.--WingtipvorteX PTT 20:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's a question which requires the judgement of editors, there is no doubt about that. Something can require careful judgement but still be a useful criteria- we're all reasonable, intelligent people (in theory) and can all legitimately make different judgements. That doesn't bother me, that's an important part of being human and interacting with other humans. What irks me is that, seemingly, the majority of people commenting here seem to accept that the images are pretty much identical, yet choose to support them both regardless. I don't think we need a specific point about redundancy in the criteria; I think that's pretty clear already with regards to the whole encylopedic value criterion. I'm a little annoyed because I feel that the criterion is being ignored. J Milburn (talk) 21:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
While checking all the three images at Bismuth including the FPC pages here and in Commons, my understanding is that the current nomination is an improved version from the same contributor. So what should we do? Ignore this since because the inferior one already has a badge as we done in most previous cases or be more practical to consider the technical improvements and remove (and delist if necessary) the inferior one? I think our motif should be to improve the articles with up-to-date information. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think you've misunderstood: we've replaced one FP with another before (sometimes through the delist process), and I'm sure Mr Milburn is not opposed to that in principle (whether he thinks this is superior, I don't know).Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 09:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Jkadavoor, I of course agree with you that "our motif should be to improve the articles with up-to-date information", but the above commenter is correct- I'd want to see the other image delisted if this was to be promoted. If I want to improve my living room with a new carpet, I take out the old one, and put in the new one. I don't leave the two standing side-by-side, which is what those supporting this without delisting the other seem to be doing. I don't need two carpets; having that just looks clumsy. J Milburn (talk) 09:11, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I agree; so what is the right procedure here. In Commons, we usually feature a new image and then raise a delist request; which is sometimes delisted, sometimes kept. I’ve no problem with the only one FP at a time policy here; but it is difficult to remove an FP from an article and delist it (claiming not used anywhere) before making a new nomination. Or do we have something similar to MVR an in VI of Commons? (I too don’t want to keep them side by side. It may be added by somebody who has no confidence to remove the old one. May we remove it?) Jkadavoor (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You can open a "delist/replace" request at the bottom of the page. That would probably have been the proper way to nominate this image. I'd be completely happy with a D/R request being opened, but, for that to happen, we'd have to oppose this for now. J Milburn (talk) 15:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I just informed the contributor for his opinion (as he is a subject expert too) prior to open a "delist/replace" request and hope it is fair. Jkadavoor (talk) 05:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC) .. and see his reply below. Jkadavoor (talk) 07:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose (or replace other FP) until the community has identified and taken suitable steps to minimise the contradiction Mr Milburn has identified. I would be personally worried about my own contribution area – vector maps. You could make a trivial change and if the existence of the original was considered irrelevant then it too must pass. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:50, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • For me, the creator, both images are FP. We have two different images from the element Bismuth: the size, the scale, colors, appearance, ... . It is simple to take allways two or more FPs from the same thing. Sample: a view of a city: by day, by night, by sun, by rain, by other view, from the air, .... An animal: female, male, baby, portrait, in the nature, ... and so on, endless. I'd like to take also more bismuth images: from large bars, crystalline fragments from a bar, and ... --Alchemist-hp (talk) 23:20, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • and a Support too. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 09:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be perfectly happy with two images that demonstrated different things, but these two images are more similar than that. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:03, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Wismut Kristall und 1cm3 Wuerfel.jpg --Dusty777 18:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • 7 6 Support, 2 Oppose Dusty777 18:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Considering this was a moderately controversial nomination, I think you're displaying horrendously poor judgement in closing it when you were one of those who supported it. I'm not going to revert you, as I do think this closure is probably the right one (even if I believe it to be for the wrong reasons), but I do not think you should make closes like this in the future. J Milburn (talk) 19:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I considered not closing it (since I had Supported the nomination), but I decided to go ahead and close it, since my vote is not the deciding factor in the nomination (without my vote, the Support vote still has a 2/3 majority.) I'll go ahead and strike through my vote, since you have presented concerns over my closing it while supporting it. I don't think it will make a difference, but if it makes one person happy, I guess it's worth it. Does that clear up your concerns? Dusty777 17:00, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't think a judge could preside over a case in which (s)he was a witness, even if the statement wasn't officially counted. Again, I'm not trying to kick up a fuss, I'm just recommending that this is not something you should do in the future. J Milburn (talk) 17:19, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I appreciate your concern. I'm not about to close a nomination as Promoted or Not Promoted if my vote makes the difference between the two. However, if my vote makes no difference in the result, I see no reason as to why I shouldn't close the nomination. Dusty777 02:16, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • We are not desperately short of closers, and, even if we were, I think we'd look to the most experienced closers to "double-up" first. This is getting silly- you need to make your choice between taking part in a discussion and closing discussions. In all but the most obvious cases, it needs to be one or the other, as with any other discussion or process on Wikipedia. J Milburn (talk) 07:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Even if a more experienced user had closed the nomination, the result would have been the same (Promoted)... I'm still not seeing your point concerning this nomination, but I guess I will consider your advice about closing nominations that I participated in. Thanks for your advice and concern. Dusty777 17:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – BRP Gregorio del Pilar, a Hamilton class cutter of the Philippine Navy.
Reason
Good quality image of the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, has a free license.
Articles in which this image appears
BRP Gregorio del Pilar (PF-15), Philippines
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Water
Creator
U.S. Navy/Sean Furey (Uploader: Phichanad)

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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François Hollande, 2015
Reason
High EV as lead picture, good portrait, good quality
Articles in which this image appears
François Hollande and many others
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
Jean-Marc Ayrault, Flickr

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalNoam Gershony in UP Open event for wheelchair players, 2011
Reason
Quite good quality, high EV, nice action shot.
Articles in which this image appears
Noam Gershony
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Sport
Creator
robbiesaurus, Flickr

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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OriginalBlue Poison Dart Frog (Dendrobates azureus) in the Frankfurt Zoo, Germany.
Reason
Good EV and quality
Articles in which this image appears
Dendrobates azureus
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Amphibians
Creator
Quartl

Promoted File:Dendrobates azureus qtl1.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:21, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The new section of the Israel-Egypt barrier fence, north of Eilat, June 2012.
Reason
High EV, good angle
Articles in which this image appears
Israel–Egypt barrier
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Others
Creator
Idobi1
*Support - from my perspective having had a look I don't think the technical flaws have much of an impact on the image's encyclopedic value and don't outweigh it. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:35, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:ISR-EGY border 6521a.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Cardinal Newman is one of the most important religious figure in England during the 19th Century.
Reason
High EV as lead image and very good quality
Articles in which this image appears
John Henry Newman, Argument from morality, John Everett Millais,
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Others
Creator
John Everett Millais

Promoted File:John Henry Newman by Sir John Everett Millais, 1st Bt.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Asian fan dance
Reason
Good quality, very nice composition. High EV - adding much value to the article fan dance, and giving a good sense of the subject.
Articles in which this image appears
Fan dance
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
Creator
AngMoKio

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 13:41, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalDead Leaf (Kallima inachus) in the butterfly house of Maximilianpark Hamm, Germany.
Reason
High EV and good quality. Illustrating pretty good the camouflage of this butterfly as a "dead leaf", yet giving a good detail of its overall appearance. FP and VI in Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Kallima inachus
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
Quartl

Promoted File:Kallima inachus qtl1.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 13:43, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalBeach huts in Berck, Pas-de-Calais (France)
Reason
Adds much value to the article Beach hut, and is of good quality
Articles in which this image appears
Beach hut
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Culture and lifestyle
Creator
Gzzz

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 13:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalKevin Wagner Murphy is an American actor and writer best known as the voice and puppeteer of Tom Servo on the Peabody Award-winning comedy series Mystery Science Theater 3000. The cornfield is a reference to a recurring joke made on RiffTrax, with which Murphy is involved.
Reason
It's not absolutely huge, but it's eye-catching, of a high technical quality and was created (and released) by a notable photographer. To me, this is what portraits should look like, and they make excellent featured pictures.
Articles in which this image appears
Kevin Murphy (actor) (just replaced a far-inferior photo) and Tom Servo
FP category for this image
People/Entertainment
Creator
Kyle Cassidy
I think it's corn, not wheat. --evrik (talk) 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can get a bigger copy of the file if necessary. --evrik (talk) 18:36, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The new version is big enough now per criteria. It has been brightened a bit, which helps with the eye shadows but the result is increased noise in those shadows if one is being really picky -- ideally those would have been eliminated with a reflector or flash. Still, that's an improvement. There's a rather distracting nasal hair that was absent from the original and really could do with being plucked, photographically :-). The picture is softer too. Perhaps it wasn't sharpened like the previous one? I get the setting now (see J Milburn's comment below). This would work really well if that was a significant meme that was mentioned and reliably cited in the article. Having the article image caption quoting the "Is corn grass" line would help the whole thing make sense and shift me to a support. However, it is hard to get a decent caption into the lead image of an infobox, which is why those templates can sometimes be a PITA. As it stands, without article support for the weird setting, the EV is damaged and the portrait not fine enough to compensate. I appreciate the effort made here, and there's no doubt it is a valuable image and a million times better than what we had and what we typically have. Colin°Talk 19:47, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of 21:08, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalDead man's fingers (Xylaria polymorpha) in the Wisentgehege Springe game park near Springe, Hanover, Germany.
Reason
Good quality and EV
Articles in which this image appears
Xylaria polymorpha
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Fungi
Creator
Michael Gäbler
  • Support Jkadavoor (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It's no secret that I love fungi, but this is not a good illustration for this article, for the following reasons: Firstly, there is very little by way of size reference. Secondly, the colouration and shape of this specimen is very atypical; this just doesn't look like Xylaria polymorpha. From oldest to youngest (yanked from the first page of results from Mushroom Observer) I'd expect them to look like this, this, this or this. The fact that this specimen looks atypical (if it is not completely misidentified) is backed up by the article and a field guide I've just pulled off my shelf. Further, I do not like the vibrant green background for a dark fungus typically found on rotting logs or detritus-rich soil. That's almost misleading- like photographing a seal on grass. This is a common species (and one I've photographed myself- much more tyical specimens on a much more typical background, though somewhat younger) and so I'd want to see a much stronger photo for featured status, and, frankly, if I was to rewrite the article (which I'll look into- it needs some love) I would be removing this picture. Sorry. J Milburn (talk) 17:03, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the expert (or very knowledgeable enthusiast, your choice :p ) views. Makes a lot of sense. In this case, the other pic in the article is a better illustration, although a poorer picture.--WingtipvorteX PTT 22:16, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawing my support per J Milburn. This nomination was opposed by the subject expert Citron at Commons too although he didn't question the ID. So I think this is the super macro of the top part of the specimen as the contributor explained in the file description. A picture of a full specimen with information on the environment of this fungus and how it grows may be more suitable for the info-box (per Citron). Jkadavoor (talk) 05:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:58, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Ultrasound image of the spine at 21 weeks of pregnancy in a fetus affected by open spina bifida. In the longitudinal scan a lumbar myelomeningocele is seen.
Reason
Hight EV, unique in Wp
Articles in which this image appears
Spina bifida
FP category for this image
spina bifida
Creator
Wolfgang Moroder

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:59, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The Mall of Asia main facade.
Reason
Has a free license, good image of the main facade of the Mall of Asia.
Articles in which this image appears
Arquitectonica, SM Mall of Asia
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Red marquis

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 21:05, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalAccordion player in a street in the historic centre of Quito, Ecuador.
Reason
High EV in Accordion (not the lead image because displaying the instrument itself as a lead image seems more reasonable), good quality and impressive
Articles in which this image appears
Accordion, Quito
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
Creator
Cayambe

Promoted File:Quito Accordion player.jpg --Julia\talk 15:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalChrist in the House of His Parents by John Everett Millais. It helped to catapult the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood movement.
Reason
High ev as lead image and another good quality image from the Millais collection.
Articles in which this image appears
Christ in the House of His Parents
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
John Everett Millais

Not Promoted --Julia\talk 15:22, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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The Mansion (also known as the Mansion House) is the official summer residence of the President of the Philippines. The mansion is located in the summer capital of the country, Baguio, situated around 5,000 feet (1,500 m) asl in the Cordillera Central Range of northern Luzon. The Mansion was built in 1908 to serve as the official summer residence of U.S. Governor-Generals at the instance of Governor-General William Cameron Forbes.
Reason
I believe it meets the criteria for FP. It had high resolution and has a free license. It also did not undergo any digital manipulation like Photoshop.
Articles in which this image appears
The Mansion, Baguio
FP category for this image
Creator
Arius1998

Not Promoted --Julia\talk 15:28, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – An 1839 portrait of a young Charles Dickens by Daniel Maclise.
Reason
Has a free license, good quality, it is a good portrait of Charles Dickens when he was young.
Articles in which this image appears
Charles Dickens
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others
Creator
Daniel Maclise, 1839

Not Promoted --Julia\talk 15:29, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Panoramic view over the reconstructed city of Babylon
Reason
Good quality image, has a free license and a good panoramic image of the reconstructed city of Babylon.
Articles in which this image appears
Babylon, Baghdad
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/Others
Creator
U.S. Navy/Edward G. Martens (Uploader: Petrusbarbygere)

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 23:39, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – John Skelton during his tenure at Fordham.
Reason
Great pic of Skelton playing for ivy league Fordham... well focused, composed and sharp.
Articles in which this image appears
John Skelton (American football)
FP category for this image
link to category from WP:FP that best describes the image (check categories first)
Creator
Mal84

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The map of Babylonia in the time of Hammurabi.
Reason
Good quality image, nice image of the Babylonia in the Hammurabi times.
Articles in which this image appears
Babylon, Babylonia, Eridu, Eshnunna, Hammurabi, Haradum, Isin, Kutha, Lagash, Larsa, List of kings of Babylon, Mashkan-shapir, Nippur, Samsu-iluna, Shaduppum, Shibaniba, Sippar, Sippar-Amnanum, Tell Agrab, Tell Ishchali
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Maps
Creator
User:MapMaster
  1. The inset map, given that it doesn't include any water in the boxed area, I assume is a modern projection. However that really is a confusing disparity to the viewer and for this reason the modern inset map ought to be labelled as such.
  2. What are the lighter and darker coloured areas? I assume one is control, but I can't see an explanation as to which and what the other is.
  3. Is there a reason for the fuzzy border? It is already going to be assumed that this is approximate, so I don't think it's necessary to give a fuzz which might suggest the area of doubt is merely within that range (unless it is?).
  4. It could do with some sort of indication of date, which is only given in the two arrows.
  5. What are the two arrows?
  6. Why is the key in dark red and not black? Dark red is much harder to read on the yellow background.
  7. Is this the sum of current knowledge of Babylonian cities at the time (are their locations we know about missing)? At the moment it's a broad over-view, which is fine if it's all we have but if we can better that then we should, at least to some extent greater than this.
  8. Rapiqum and Malgium: is it the name of a city whose remains we have found that is unknown, or the location of a city whose name we know?
  9. What is Elam? Is it a geographical area or another civilisation? The answer to that may or may not present an opportunity to clarify that.
  10. The mapping conventions suggest a different town/city indication, for which I don't particularly care, but it would be nice to see the coastline outlined in dark(er) blue as suggested.

I've number these not to magnify their size (because I hope they can be resolved) but so the nominator or others can reply without interjecting into my list. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 13:52, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • My comment.
  1. It is just fine that there are no blue lines/water, because those waters are rivers, like the river of Tigris and Euphrates, they are just rivers and cannot be seen on the box anyway.
  2. The darker area where Babylon, Sumer (includes Ur, Uruk, etc.) is placed is the area showing the Babylonian territory upon Hammurabi's ascension in 1792 BC and upon his death in 1750 BC.
  3. I dont know about the fuzzy border.
  4. Those dates are the dating of the territory of Babylon. In 1972 BC, (the area showing the darkest shade) is the territory of Babylon upon Hammurabi's ascension, while the 1750 BC (the area of lighter shade) is the territory of Babylon on Hammurabi's death.
  5. Those arrows indicate the territory of Babylon at a specific time.
  6. If it is black, it is harder for it to read. Red contrast yellow, so it is better than black.
  7. Well, those are the major city-states of Mesopotamia and it includes Babylon.
  8. Rapiqum and Malgium are city-states that are not yet located but are assumed to be located there.
  9. Elam was an ancient civilization centered in the far west and southwest of modern-day Iran.
  10. Yes, for me, it would also be nice to see the coastline outlined in dark blue.

--Mediran talk 10:16, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In reply to 1), I find it highly unlikely that the area to the south-east of the main map is a river, it looks like the sea.
Oh, I see that the arrows are the definition of the areas. This is very unclear.
6)That's simply not true. Red on yellow has a poor contrast; black on yellow has the highest possible contrast.
Rapiqum: is there some way that the map could show us that? If not, on the description page. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:19, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The sea at the right-most part at the bottom is a part of the Arabian Sea or the Gulf of Oman, I really don't know the name of the sea but it is not the river (Tigris & Euphrates), it is a sea. 6) Yes, as what you said, black and yellow has the highest possible contrast, but for me, the image is does not look good with those colors. --Mediran talk 11:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Labeled map of Antarctica.
Reason
Good quality image, has a free license, a detailed map of Antarctica, a stunning image of Antarctica.
Articles in which this image appears
Antarctica, Bellingshausen Sea, East Antarctica, Geography of Antarctica, King Haakon VII Sea
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Maps
Creator
Landsat Image Mosaic of Antarctica team (User: Rbrausse)

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The rebuilt Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, viewed across Moscow River
Reason
High quality and detailed panorama of a famous cathedral, from an uncommon point of view, adding to the article
Articles in which this image appears
Cathedral of Christ the Saviour
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Alvesgaspar (talk)

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 00:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalUSS Port Royal (CG-73) of the US Navy
Reason
Large, good quality image of USS Port Royal (CG-73) that is used in multiple articles and lists as an example of a Ticonderoga class cruiser.
Articles in which this image appears
USS Port Royal (CG-73), Ticonderoga class cruiser, United States Navy, United States Navy ships, Equipment of the United States Armed Forces, Equipment of the United States Navy
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Water
Creator
US Navy Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Johnnie R. Robbins

Not Promoted --King of 17:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalScelophysa trimeni, or blue monkey beetle, is a species of scarab beetles in the monkey beetle subfamily. It is found exclusively in South Africa, particularly Namaqualand. Blue monkey beetles have moveable and unequally sized tarsal claws. Males of the species are covered in minute sky-blue scales while the scales of the females are sienna brown. Blue monkey beetles are important pollinators of the Namaqualand region.
Alt
Reason
Seems to me we haven't had enough macro photography recently, almost no beetles, and pretty much nothing from South Africa. This image clearly shows the major features of the blue monkey beetle, mainly the size and colour of the scales, the feeding habit, and the large prehensile hind claws. The flower this male is feeding on, Arctotis decurrens, is one of the typical food sources for monkey beetles. The quality and resolution are very good.
Articles in which this image appears
Scelophysa trimeni
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Insects
Creator
Julia W
  • Support as nominator --Julia\talk 12:34, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Soft and blurry. Numerous distracting elements. Only a bit of the carapace and wing covers visible. Saffron Blaze (talk) 15:54, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm pretty sure it's neither soft nor blurry. Julia\talk 17:13, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Let me clarify... the DoF is so narrow that only one of the rear legs is in critical focus. The bottom right is blurry yet it takes up a key part of the visual field, thus distracting. The head of the beetle is completely burried. While interesting behavior it lessens the EV for me. Saffron Blaze (talk) 23:01, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. What a little glutton! I like it, and to hell with the technical jargon! INeverCry 17:58, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This DOF is good for a macro - it would be hard to go deeper in an action shot given that this is already a 60mm lens in good light. The front petals are the only distracting element for me, but they are almost inevitable in a 3d flower, and are minimized by the composition. Behaviour has as much EV as anatomy, and capturing it well is more difficult. Value is enhanced by the sparcity of images of this subject or its relatives. I enjoyed this photo. --99of9 (talk) 23:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support An excellent macro shot. I don't have any issue with the DOF. This beetle is 1cm x 0.5cm and I can see the hairs front and back and all the tiny spots on his body. From the article: "Adult blue monkey beetles are typically found grouped in the centres of unscented flowers that bear dark discs and bright petals with spot patterns at the bases. They feed on the pollen, embedding their heads into the discs and browsing, and sometimes supporting themselves by hooking their hind tarsal claws onto the flower petals" This description exactly matches the photograph both in setting and behaviour seen. It therefore has far higher EV IMO than an isolated bettle specimen, although that would have its own merits. -- Colin°Talk 07:52, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Tomer T (talk) 10:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose. Sorry- a strong photo, but I find the flower a little intrusive. J Milburn (talk) 12:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentThe so called "bug bar" is set pretty high and I fail to see how this leaps over it. All I see is a blue blob in the middle of a tortured flower. The supportive reviews read like an apology for acceptance of sub-standard work rather than accolades for wikipedia's finest. Good article though. However, including an image that actually showed the beetle should have been a first priority. 131.137.245.206 (talk) 14:01, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The supportive reviews are responding to the initial negative review, which caused the nominator to get cold feet. This isn't Commons. We're reviewing an article illustration. How many beetle photographs have we got demonstrating this much behaviour? Or indeed, any behaviour. Colin°Talk 14:44, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I fail to see how the number of such images has any bearing on the criteria it is to be judged. You have just made it sound as if you voted out of pity. Seems rather patronising. 131.137.245.207 (talk) 08:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please stick to reviewing the picture and discussing review criteria wrt this picture and drop trying to psychoanalyse the reviewers. You are not only mistaken but the comments are unnecessary. Colin°Talk 10:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Could you refrain from being hypocritical? You call a review insulting, but get touchy when someone calls yours patronising. And to forestall further diatribes on my talk page I didn't find either assessment very helpful. Saffron Blaze (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There is a difference. My comments were discussing whether a criterion used by a reviewer (the so-called "bug bar") was a fair measure of this picture. IMO comparing a photograph of a tiny beetle in-the-field with large beautiful butterflies alighting on a flower, or focus-stacked shots of dead wasps, is more than unfair. The IP in contrast was commenting on me as a person. Whether his opinions are fair and accurate isn't important; they have nothing to do with this image or how best to judge it. Colin°Talk 08:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Semantics. If the bug bar is insulting, and I use it, you are for all intents and purposes making a comment on me as a person. I was insulted by the inference. Your use was a deliberate attempt to vilify me as an individual and hence undermine my argument. 131.137.245.206 (talk) 10:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If you were insulted by my comment, then I apologise. That was not my intention. Colin°Talk 12:02, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per Saffron Blaze and Milburn. Flower is too distracting. Dusty777 17:34, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose I was pretty much thinking like Saffron Blaze and anonymous guy (who seems to regular contributor) but also like Colin. Seems to be by a good margin what's wikipedia has best to offer, and little Googling hasn't leaded me to better result. But I'd have loved to see a better shot of the whole beast before seeing the behaviour. And well, the "tortured" flowe, OOF part and overall composition make for a not so attractive picture to me. - Blieusong (talk) 17:55, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not necessarily trying to dissuade, but this is a very small beetle, with an adult lifespan of about a month, endemic to a fairly small region, within an African country that is already enormously under-represented. We'll be waiting a few lifetimes before we get another photo of a monkey beetle, particularly one where it's not devouring pollen head-first (which it does most of the time). It's not like worldwide flies or bees or caterpillars that buzz and crawl around on lots of convenient surfaces. It seems rather petty to me to moan about some out of focus petals (which are obviously yummy ^^). We've made much bigger concessions, plenty of times before. Julia\talk 18:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral You dissuaded me at least. I'd like to add that I'm aware the aesthetic issues are not so valid reasons to oppose here (or at least of less importance), but I was neutral leaning towards oppose because of them. Also, we don't really see the head part, which happens to be what interest us here (edit: OK it's inherent to the shown behaviour). But you probably have mitigating circumstances I'm not aware of, as a very casual macro shooter. - Blieusong (talk) 18:53, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentI think talk of a "bug bar" is rather insulting really. And factually incorrect when one examines the handful of beetle FPs we have, which are of decidedly mixed quality technically and generally extremely boring compositions (e.g, File:Beetle-Bessbug.jpg or File:Darkling beetle.jpg). While this picture doesn't have "cover girl" aesthetics, it is IMO a wonderful illustration. This makes it somewhat unconventional in comparison to all the lovely butterflies but read Wikipedia:Featured picture criteria point 5, read the beetle's article, and think about it. Colin°Talk 19:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Colin, must you always resort to ad hominem attacks and logical fallacies when you don't get your way? The "bug bar" is a term often used here when discussing macro shots of insects and it isn't meant as an insult. I have never seen it used as such. You have picked out 2 images that support your case while disregarding the numerous brilliant macro shots we have of insects. If beetles are under represented that doesn't mean we have to accept sub standard works. Moreover I think we can attribute the article matching so well with the image due to the fact Julia is the author of both (not implying anything other than she provided a good description in the article of the well known behaviour we see in the image). And, just so this is clear I think the article is wonderful and the image useful but not as the lead and certainly not as a featured image. Saffron Blaze (talk) 00:46, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral I would like the entire beetle to be in focus and its head to be visible. I'm not bothered by the flower. I understand the challenged of macro photography enough to know what I ask for is not easily possible. A Question for Julia, do you live in South Africa? And if so, how difficult would it be for you to take another picture. I understand you said a few lifetimes. For now, I'll be neutral. Persuade me either way. --WingtipvorteX PTT 22:15, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I live in the UK, not ZA. I may go there again, but probably not at the same time of year and perhaps not the same location. It's not exactly an under-visited area because the spring wildflowers are popular with older South Africans, but they're not young, small, athletic, and loopy like I am, so they don't go crawling about in the wildflowers looking for small insects while carrying heavy and expensive camera gear, and even if they did, they wouldn't be uploading them to WP. Internet access isn't as easy to come by there. I have loads of other insect photos from the region but the problem is generally one of identification, which is always a challenge with these under-represented areas, and I have other monkey beetle photos, but they are burying themselves even more deeply in flowers and identification will be almost impossible. This is one of the lucky few. Anyone who follows feedback on the mainpage knows that IPs often moan about the number of insect photos, which are rarely pretty and, if you're not a morphology nut, rather boring. And I maintain, despite the criticisms given here, that this is a more engaging and interesting photo than a lot of other insect pictures that we feature. As for the head, it's pretty typical and pedestrian as far as insect heads go and is hardly a defining feature. I could barely find a single description of it, in all of the research that I did for the article, but plenty was said about the claws, the scales, the behaviour, and how critical they are for pollination. Make of that what you will.  :) Julia\talk 17:19, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the reply. I better understand the EV of the image now, so I will change my vote.--WingtipvorteX PTT 20:09, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I was a little hasty in my previous comment, I didn't really research the beetle very much, nor did I check to see just how many pictures of this genus actually exist. I found that pictures of Scelophysa trimeni available are few, and none are the resolution of the nomination. This makes the EV of this picture considerably higher then I had considered earlier. The EV is excellent IMO. I cannot let the slight technical errors get in the way of the encyclopedic value. Changing my vote to Full Support. Dusty777 02:21, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Alborzagros (talk) 08:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment If EV in this instance trumps the other criteria I am content. It just seemed to me you were supplanting Valued for Featured and setting precedent in the process. I can see this has upset Julia, but I hardly think I was being petty or moaning. I'll take my leave of any further comment on this particular nomination.131.137.245.206 (talk) 08:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Scelophysa trimeni cropped.jpg --King of 17:14, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalCharles F. Bolden, Jr., is the present administrator of NASA. He is a retired United States Marine Corps major general, a former NASA astronaut, and a former naval test pilot. He is the first African American to lead NASA on a non-temporary basis.
Reason
This is a good quality portrait of Charles F. Bolden, Jr., who is the present administrator of NASA. He is a retired United States Marine Corps major general, a former NASA astronaut, and a former naval test pilot. He is the first African American to lead NASA on a non-temporary basis.
Articles in which this image appears
Charles F. Bolden, Jr., List of Administrators and Deputy Administrators of NASA, NASA
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
NASA/Bill Ingalls

Promoted File:Charles F. Bolden, Jr.jpg --Theopolisme 21:24, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalPotter and his work, Jaura, Madhya Pradesh, India
Alt
Reason
Great picture, good quality, high EV
Articles in which this image appears
Pottery
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Traditional
Creator
Yann

Promoted File:Potter at work, Jaura, India.jpg --Jujutacular (talk) 14:11, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalArctic wolf, Parc Omega, Quebec, Canada.
Reason
High quality, superb resolution, good EV
Articles in which this image appears
Arctic wolf
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator
Cephas

Not Promoted --Jujutacular (talk) 14:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Locomotive ChS4-072
Reason
Featured on Commons, good EV, used in other national Wiki. Rare type of locomotive now, replaced with later modifications. This locomotive (#072) not used since July 2011. Since March 29 2012 is an exhibit of the Kiev museum of railway transport. This photo shows one of its last actions.
Articles in which this image appears
ChS4
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Land
Creator
George Chernilevsky

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:04, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalFull moon as seen from Earth's northern hemisphere.
Reason
High EV, good picture, excellent resolution.
Articles in which this image appears
Moon, Full moon, List of Solar System objects by size, 2010 in science.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking out
Creator
Gregory H. Revera
I almost didn't nominate it, since it isn't really the greatest picture, but I figured a better one will come available then we can do a D&R. Dusty777 19:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps, but if this passes, our toothless delist process would no doubt fail to delist the other, meaning we'd be stuck indefinitely with two near-identical images. What's the point of that? J Milburn (talk) 22:18, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks to Chick Bowen for unearthing that old FP... I browsed through the FP section, but failed to find that one (my fault.) That FP appears to have a lower technical quality... I can start replacing the current FP with this nominated picture in all articles in which the current FP appears, then start a delist nomination. I don't think the FP community will leave us stuck with two FP's of the Moon if one can no longer contribute EV. Dusty777 02:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand Milburn's frustration with the delist process, which, frankly, just hasn't worked recently for whatever reason. In this case I'd hope it would be clear enough. I will leave off a vote on this for now, and ask somebody to ping me when the delist is started, which ought to follow immediately assuming this is promoted. (If this is not promoted, you can of course start a delist and replace nomination whenever you choose.) Chick Bowen 15:56, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:FullMoon2010.jpg --Makeemlighter (talk) 21:08, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The Eureka Tower in Melbourne, Australia, as viewed from Rialto Towers.
Reason
Large size, crisp image. Has high EV showing one of the tallest buildings in Australia and residential buildings in the world. Featured on German Wikipedia.
Articles in which this image appears
Eureka Tower, List of tallest residential buildings in the world, Grocon
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Diliff
  • I didn't find anything that explicitly said, but "Queen Bee @ Eureka Tower" states that "Katsalidis and Stringer had discussed the idea of making a permanent installation on various building projects over the years and the image of a Queen Bee and colony had a obvious conceptual compatibility to the context of this gigantic residential tower." That makes me think it is permanent (and it is still there in a 2010 Google streetview image). {{commons:template:FoP-Australia}} says that permanent sculpture is FoP. Should a mention be added to the description page? Chris857 (talk) 16:30, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I don't have any concerns about copyright Mr Milburn - but I agree with Chris that something should be added to the description or even the actual page itself as there is nothing to explain it. It's too distinctive a feature in my opinion to be ignored, and if Chris is correct that it's a permanant thing then would be nice to be mentioned. Thank you Chris857 for your detective work! gazhiley 08:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, he puts all of us WP photographers to shame... --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, nice panorama.--WingtipvorteX PTT 20:04, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Eureka Tower, Melbourne - Nov 2008.jpg --King of 07:44, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalWulfenite is a lead molybdate mineral with the formula PbMoO4.
Picture is displaying Wulfenite from Mexico.
Reason
High quality, Member of quality images, Good framing and encyclopedic.
Articles in which this image appears
Wulfenite
FP category for this image
Creator
Didier Descouens
Sure, you can. At least, it is not written anywhere that you can't :) --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now because the image hasn't been in the article for the required length of time. However, it is a much larger photo than the previous lead image so I've made it the lead image now. I suggest re-nominating this after the time requirement has been fulfilled. Pine 19:55, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To me, this falls under the 'obvious cases' in Criteria 5 by which a much better image may become FP even if it has not been in article for 7 days. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am cautious because I believe that we have had cases here at FPC where the true identities of the subjects of a photo were doubtful or disputed such as questions about which exact species of plant appeared in a photo. Letting the photo remain in the article for a week before nominating it for FP adds to the likelihood that knowledgeable individuals about the photo's subject have viewed the photo and agree with the identification. Pine 08:56, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Very unlikely to be an issue given who the contibutor is. Saffron Blaze (talk) 12:12, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. Excellent detail. --WingtipvorteX PTT 20:00, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Comment) Specimens from this mine are well known. They are usually bright and stocky like caramels. The piece presented is very special, because the edges are slightly curved and they are thinner to see the light. They are very typical, the mere sight lets say that it is a wulfenite from Erupción Mine just before the Second World War. This piece was part of the old collections of the “Ecole des Mines de Paris”. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:05, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Wulfenite mexique.jpg --King of 07:49, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – "Vigneoble du Dezaley" in Switzerland (with view on Lake Geneva and Swiss/French Alps). This Vineyard is part of the district of Lavaux, a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
Reason
It is a nice picture
Articles in which this image appears
Lavaux
FP category for this image
Places (Panorama)
Creator
SSZ

Not Promoted --King of 08:06, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Former Philippine President Corazon Aquino addresses base workers at a rally at Remy Field concerning jobs for Filipino workers after the Americans withdraw from the U.S. facilities. Corazon Aquino was the first female president in the Philippines and in Asia.
Reason
Has a free license, good quality image, has good resolution
Articles in which this image appears
Corazon Aquino, Covert United States foreign regime change actions, Foreign policy of the Ronald Reagan administration, History of the Philippines (1986–present), Presidency of Corazon Aquino, Women in the Philippines
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
US Department of Defense/Roger Dutcher

Not Promoted --King of 08:11, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A windmill in Kuremaa, Estonia.
Reason
This image is the sole photo in the article Kuremaa, Estonia where this image has been used since September 5. In my opinion it is a much better photo of a windmill than the previous lead image in the windmill article, so I just made it the lead image there as well. This image is already featured on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Kuremaa, Windmill
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Others
Creator
Ivar Leidus, User:Iifar on Wikimedia Commons

Promoted File:Kuremaa mõisa tuuleveski.jpg --King of 22:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The Taagepera Castle is a mansion in the Helme Parish, Valga County, Estonia.
Reason
Very good quality, resolution and EV
Articles in which this image appears
Taagepera Castle
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Iifar

Promoted File:Taagepera mõisa peahoone2.jpg --King of 22:49, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A Doppler on wheels image of a tornadic thunderstorm near La Grange, Wyoming (USA) captured during the VORTEX2 project. In the velocity image on the left, Blues/green represent winds moving towards the radar, and reds/yellows indicate winds moving away from the radar. The reason that some of the darker blues contain red/yellow within them is a trait known as Aliasing, where the winds are moving faster than the radar can detect. In the reflectivity image on the right, the main body of the storm can be seen, with the appendage on the bottom of the storm being a hook echo, which is associated directly with the tornado, and the tornado circulation itself can be seen as the doughnut like shape in the later part of the animation.
Alt
Reason
This is a high resolution Doppler on Wheels radar animation of a tornado producing severe thunderstorm. It is by far Wikipedia's best and most educational depiction of a hook echo, thus adding significant EV to the article.
Articles in which this image appears
Hook echo
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences
Creator
Josh Wurman/Center for Severe Weather Research

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 22:07, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]



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Reason
Has a free license, good quality image, has an encyclopedic value.
Articles in which this image appears
Bay City, Metro Manila, List of shopping malls in the Philippines, Metro Manila, Pasay, SM Mall of Asia, Shopping mall
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
TheCoffee
Wouldn't you think that a picture should illustrate how things really are? Aren't buses likely to be part of the normal operation of the mall? I'm playing devil's advocate, as I do oppose the nom. --WingtipvorteX PTT 19:56, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted Julia\talk 17:15, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]