Draft:Mary L. Hamlin

  • Comment: In addition to prior comments, the source from citation #6 has been challenged in good faith at Talk:Los Laureles Lodge, and there has yet to be any concrete evidence shown to prove its reliability. The WP:BURDEN to demonstrate reliability is on any editor wishing to submit the draft (further discussion can occur at talk page), or else the material cited to it should be removed, or the draft declined. Left guide (talk) 02:11, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Three of the sources are the same publication, Carmel Pine Cone which is a local source and only one has in-depth coverage about Hamlin. The others are not in-depth. S0091 (talk) 17:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: This figure does not seem to meet WP:N. She is of antiquarian interest to those interested in local genealogy and businesses, and the sourcing reflects that. Llajwa (talk) 23:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: Reviewer note: The draft's talk page also has relevant commentary. Please read it prior to accepting or declining this draft 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 01:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: When researching Mary L. Hamlin, I uncovered her early pioneer contributions for a town that only had its origins in the ealry 1900s. She played a significant role in the town's development and was the founder of two of its existing hotels. There are numerous secondary and primary citations to validae her contributions, with eight of the best included in this article. Notably, Neal Hotelling's source is considered secondary. Others contributors include Sharron Lee Hale, Kent L. Seavey, and Alissandra Dramov. Certainly, an encylopedia should feature some mention of her! greghenderson2006 (talk) 08:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: I think notability is seriously under question. The article is primarily built around the Carmel Pine Cone, a hyper-local weekly tabloid from a township of several thousand where the sale/purchase of individual homes is considered newsworthy. Of Carmel Pine Cone based sourcing, the one that is used ten times is written by Neil Hotelling, and I believe his pieces are columns. Graywalls (talk) 08:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: I removed this sentence Today it is called the Monte Verde Inn, a Mediterranean-style bed and breakfast. and the associated citation, because it was was not backed up by the source. The source had no mention of this new name (no occurrence of the word "Inn" at all) and no mention that it was a Mediterranean Revival style bed and breakfast. Possible original research or personal observation? Netherzone (talk) 19:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: AFC comments are part of the review history, and should remain in place, intact. Things are expected to have moved on after a comment 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:51, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment: If this is a biography, what is {{List of Historic Buildings in Carmel-by-the-Sea}} doing at the foot the draft. If it is about the buildings, what is the details biography of Hamlin doing in the draft?, and why do they not have an article apiece. Potentially there are four drafts here. I suggest you do not submit this draft until you have split it into three buildings and one biog. Four separate drafts. I have no idea what a Mediterranean style bed and breakfast is. I am probably ignorant, but so are our readers, and we need to write for that ignorance. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:19, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
@Timtrent:Generally, when something is not sufficiently notable to merit its own article or even if notable, the article is too short, t's common to merge them into an article that can be sustained. For example, a bicycle manufacturer that is just notable enough to have its own article, but its individual products may not justify their own page. Those products that are notable enough would be talked about in the company's article. Please also see Wikipedia:Pokémon test Graywalls (talk) 07:28, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Mary LaCount Hamlin[1]
Mary LaCount Hamlin, ca. 1876
Born
Mary E. LaCount

September 8, 1856
Auburn, New York, US
DiedAugust 12, 1947(1947-08-12) (aged 90)
Carmel-by-the-Sea, California, US
OccupationHotelier
EmployerJames F. Devendorf
Spouse
William H. Hamlin
​
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(m. 1879; div. 1910)​
Children2

Mary L. Hamlin (September 8, 1856 – August 11, 1947) was an American hotelier and businesswoman who played a key role in the early development of the art colony in Carmel-by-the-Sea, California. She is best known for founding the Monte Verde Inn and the Sundial Lodge, both still present in downtown Carmel. Her development of the Sundial Lodge became one of the few hotels from the early 1930s that still retains its original appearance. Additionally, she served as an early manager at Carmel's Pine Inn.

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