Talk:Dreamtime (climb)

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Nominator: Aszx5000 (talk · contribs) 21:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Arconning (talk · contribs) 04:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I will be reviewing this, comments will probably be finished in the next 72 hours! Arconning (talk) 04:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks @Arconning. The comments are very helpful and I think I have responded to them all but just to clarify some things (per below). Look forward to your feedback. Aszx5000 (talk) 17:38, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Italicize article title. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles of works

 Done

• Dreamtime boulder, just for clarification it shouldn't be italicized since it's referring to the boulder itself and not the climb, correct?

Agreed, it is referring to the boulder.

• Make the coordinates of the location a little less specific, check [1] for a guideline.

 Done, is that okay?

• (33 ft), change to (33-foot).

 Done

• route in climbing history, add a comma at the end.

 Done

• softened, softening, unless a proper climbing term, change it to something more formal. Though can use quotes for these terms.

 Done, changed to 'lowered' and 'lowering'

• 'dreamtime', add [sic] template.

 Done, have I got that right?

• The Dagger V14 (8B+), The Dagger, which is graded as V14 (8B+).

 Done

• German climber Yannick Flohé create, change create to created.

 Done

• but at the crux goes right, but at the crux, he goes right.

 Done

• directly up the boulder, add a comma at the end.

 Done

• Return of the Dreamtime,, remove comma.

 Done

• In a 2009 article on Dreamtime, PlanetMountain said: "So beautiful and important, the Dreamtime immediately did as its name suggests, it made everyone dream and, in doing so, it became a reference point for cutting-edge problems, one of the most famous boulders in the world, second perhaps only to Midnight Lightning, freed by Ron Kauk in 1978 at Camp Four in Yosemite.[4] Others have also labeled Dreamtime as being the world's most famous boulder route,[20] often along with Midnight Lightning, and credited it for promoting the development of the sport.[6], where does the quotation end? The references don't support the 2009 article claim.

 Done That was the wrong reference, I have added the correct ref that has the entire sentence as a quote.

• Climbing, listed Dreamtime and The Story of Two Worlds,, remove unnecessary commas.

 Done

• Repeating Dreamtime became a rite-of-passage for every major boulder climber., add considered.

 Done, changed to Repeating Dreamtime is considered a rite-of-passage for major boulder climbers

• No issues on prose and MoS.

• Formatted properly.
• Reference 1 should be changed as it's mainly user generated. Thought it can also be omitted.

 Not done 'theCrag' is a very well regarded database of international climbing route (the European version of Mountain Project), which climbers would recognise as authoritive. It is therefore okay to keep this? thanks

• • • As I said, it can be omitted. Per Wikipedia:Reliable sources#User-generated content, it's okay I guess, since it's not largely user-generated.

Understand, thanks.

• Reference 6 should have the original German title as the title, could put a "trans-title=" template for it. Also specify the language using "lang=de". Also do this with references 22, 25, 27, and 32, with their respective languages and titles.

 Done added "trans-title" and "language" to reference 6; however  Not done, do I still need to change their titles to the original language or can I keep the en translated versions?

• • • Please use the original titles alongside the translated titles. See reference 2 on Laufey (singer) for a guide.

 Done, hopefully I have got that right.

• Reference 11 needs to use the archived version, link leads to updated website and not the source.

 Done, replaced that with a new reference that has Hojer's original quote.

• Earwig and manual check is okay, pass. Earwig just picks up quotes.

• Images are relevant and have proper licensing.

• No ongoing edit war, broad and focused on the topic.
  • @Aszx5000: Here are my comments, hope they can be addressed!
    • @Aszx5000:, please check the remainder of my comments on Refs. Also italicize the name of the climb in the infobox, my apologies.
      • @Arconning:, have made alll those suggested changes now. thanks.
        • @Aszx5000: Congrats on the new GA!
          • @Arconning: Excellent - thank you so much !

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed