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Conrad Duncan (2019-11-13). "Nikki Haley roasted for claiming US president never lied to her". Indy100. Retrieved 2020-04-16. According to The Washington Post, the president had made 13,435 false or misleading claims as of 14 October. There's even a Wikipedia page called "Veracity of statements by Donald Trump", which opens with this sentence: "Donald Trump has made many false or misleading statements, including thousands during his presidency."
Graham Gremore (2020-04-09). "Mike Pence cuts off media's access to top health experts until they give Trump free on-air time". Queerty. Retrieved 2020-04-16. Trump...lies so much that there's an entire Wikipedia page devoted to the "veracity of statements by Donald Trump."
Robin Bradshaw (2024-09-17). "Wikipedia page on Trump's false statements gains attention ahead of 2024 election". The Beaumont Enterprise. Retrieved 2024-09-18. While social media and the Internet have changed the political landscape in the modern age, a recent Wikipedia page titled "false or misleading statements by Donald Trump" is starting to gain attention in the last leg of the 2024 election race.

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Discussions:

RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → Donald Trump's false and misleading claims, No consensus, 25 October 2018, Requested move 25 October 2018
Discussion, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → False and misleading statements by Donald Trump, No consensus, 21 February 2019, Should this page be moved to 'False and misleading statements by Donald Trump'?
RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → False statements by Donald Trump, No consensus, 22 April 2019, Requested move 22 April 2019
Discussion, *various options presented initially*, No consensus, 19 August 2022, Title of article is wrong
RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → Mendacity of statements by Donald Trump, Withdrawn, 11 June 2023, Requested move 11 June 2023
RM, Veracity of statements by Donald Trump → Inaccuracy of statements by Donald Trump, Consensus to move to False or misleading statements by Donald Trump, 17 June 2023, Requested move 17 June 2023

Section sizes

Section size for False or misleading statements by Donald Trump (86 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	14,218	14,218
Veracity and politics	5,547	10,063
Use of repetition	4,516	4,516
Business career	56	29,811
Real estate	3,474	3,474
Other investments and debt	7,200	7,200
Philanthropy	3,118	3,118
Sports	8,628	8,628
Other	4,190	4,190
Perceptions	3,145	3,145
In The Art of the Deal	13,207	13,207
September 11 attacks	6,374	6,374
2016 presidential campaign	18,497	21,237
Border wall with Mexico	2,740	2,740
Presidency	58	236,823
Fact-checking Trump	22,011	22,011
Credibility polling	2,397	2,397
Commentary and analysis	14,716	17,636
Purpose and effect	2,920	2,920
Specific topics	88	194,721
Inaugural crowd	7,246	7,246
2016 presidential election	7,674	7,674
Denial of Russian hacking and election interference	4,300	4,300
Denial of collusion with Russia	4,295	4,295
Dismissal of FBI director	4,435	4,435
Personal lawyer	4,874	4,874
Spygate conspiracy theory	5,415	5,415
2018 California wildfires	1,384	1,384
Special counsel investigation	5,142	5,142
Economy	15,966	15,966
Family separation policy	2,693	2,693
E. Jean Carroll sexual assault accusation	2,529	2,529
Article II and unlimited executive power	1,232	1,232
Hurricane Dorian	23,076	23,076
Meeting with Iran	1,295	1,295
U.S military pullout from Kurdistan	1,514	1,514
Obamagate conspiracy theory	13,552	13,552
Joe Scarborough murder conspiracy theory	7,748	7,748
Advances for black Americans	1,502	1,502
Republican Party approval rating tweets	2,478	2,478
Ilhan Omar	1,081	1,081
COVID-19 pandemic	41,982	41,982
The military and veterans	4,778	4,778
Voting by mail	2,024	2,024
2020 presidential election	12,388	12,388
January 6 attack	14,030	14,030
Inter-presidency	65	116,396
2021 California gubernatorial recall election	1,272	1,272
COVID-19 healthcare discrimination against white people	1,031	1,031
Spygate conspiracy theory	1,545	1,545
Drop boxes in the 2020 presidential election in Wisconsin	1,115	1,115
Federal prosecution (government documents case)	4,731	4,731
Federal prosecution (2020 election case)	497	497
Claim of intervening in 2018 Florida vote count	1,604	1,604
2022 announcement speech	4,938	4,938
2023 CNN town hall	1,637	1,637
2024 presidential campaign	8,776	8,776
False and misleading statements by topic	48	49,693
2024 presidential election	1,040	1,040
Immigration and crime	9,073	9,073
Global warming and climate change	5,740	5,740
Foreign policy	3,056	3,056
Healthcare	944	944
Abortion	654	3,292
Roe v. Wade	2,638	2,638
LGBTQ claims	665	665
Indictments	1,743	1,743
Music Modernization Act	1,089	1,089
Real vs. AI-generated images	20,808	20,808
Hurricane Helene	2,195	2,195
Events	13	39,492
Biden vs. Trump presidential debate	2,742	2,742
Speech at the Republican Convention	2,042	2,042
CPAC Speech	518	518
NABJ interview	4,863	4,863
Mar-a-Lago news conference	7,609	7,609
Elon Musk interview	6,106	6,106
Howell, Michigan speech	1,006	1,006
Harris vs. Trump presidential debate	14,593	14,593
Sanewashing of Donald Trump	24,988	24,988
Public opinion	4,936	4,936
See also	248	248
References	29	29
Further reading	2,583	2,583
External links	19	720
Fact-checker archives	701	701
Total	481,633	481,633

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