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Frequently asked questions

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Summary of this FAQ

A large number of these questions are relating to the term creation myth, its meaning and its proper usage in this article.

Creation myth is a formal and proper term used by a wide range of academics and scholars (religious and secular) to define a supernatural account of how life, Earth and everything in general came into existence. This term does not imply falsehood unlike the way that the informal use of the word myth can.
Wikipedia:WTA#Myth and Legend clearly states that myth in its informal sense should not be used but also clearly states that we should treat all faiths and beliefs the same (e.g. Not referring to a Christian belief on the one hand and a Hindu myth on the other). Thus all faiths' creation myths are referred to as such in their respective articles as well.
Wikipedia:RNPOV states "editors should not avoid using terminology that has been established by the majority of the current reliable and notable sources on a topic out of sympathy for a particular point of view, or concern that readers may confuse the formal and informal meanings." This is also the main thrust of WP:NOT#CENSORED.

Q1: What is the definition of creation myth?

A1: Creation myth is a widely accepted term that has a precise definition^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] that is "a supernatural story or explanation that describes the beginnings of humanity, earth, life, and the universe (cosmogony), often as a deliberate act by one or more deities." Since there is a consensus among reliable sources on this definition, it is used here for the purpose of accuracy and proper word use.

Q2: Why do we use creation myth to describe the subject, even if it might offend readers or conflict with their beliefs?

A2: The term creation myth is used for reasons related to scholarship and research, not out of a desire to offend the feelings or beliefs of Wikipedia's readers. While some readers, especially those not familiar with the scholarly terminology referenced when using the term creation myth, might take offense at seeing this subject called a creation myth, Wikipedia should not be rewritten just so that certain readers will be more comfortable. The goal in writing the article is to be as neutral and dispassionate in describing this subject, but, as with any contentious topic, it is sometimes not possible to accommodate everyone's feelings while writing a neutral, accurate, verifiable, and sourced-based reference work.

Q3: Isn't calling this a creation myth the same thing as calling it a fairy tale, since that is one of the informal definitions for the word myth?

A3: No. The term creation myth is a coherent term in its own right that should not be parsed into separate words. The term has a unique meaning different from the informal definitions of the word myth. Just as an electoral college is not an institute of higher learning even though it contains the word college, a creation myth is not necessarily a fairy tale even though it contains the word myth. Formally defined terms provide unambiguous meaning that aid in the presentation of a more accurate and scholarly encyclopedic article.

Q4: Does this article say or imply that Genesis is not literally true? And if so, is that neutral?

A4: The viewpoint that Genesis is literally true is held by only a tiny minority of sources. Wikipedia's neutrality policy does not say that articles must "give equal validity" to such views (see WP:GEVAL). In writing this article it also becomes necessary to proceed with some implicit assumptions that many readers are bound to find controversial (see WP:MNA).

Q5: Why does the article name have "narrative" rather than "myth"?

A5: This has been discussed several times, and there has not been sufficient consensus to change the name of the article.

See also Creation Myth Creationism Bible

References

This article was nominated for deletion on 15 February 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

This article is written in British English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, defence, artefact, analyse) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

RM, Creation according to Genesis -> Genesis creation myth, Moved, 27 January 2010, January 2010 discussion
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Creation according to Genesis, No consensus, 16 February 2010, February 2010 discussion
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Creation according to Genesis, No consensus, 25 March 2010, March 2010 discussion
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Biblical Creation, No consensus, 4 April 2010, April 2010 discussion 1
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Genesis creation narrative, Moved, 20 April 2010, April 2010 discussion 2
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 4 March 2012, March 2012 discussion 1
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Creation story in Genesis, No consensus, 4 March 2012, March 2012 discussion 2
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 28 September 2012, September 2012 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Creation in Genesis, Not moved, 1 February 2013, Feb 2013 discussion 1
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, Not moved, 4 February 2013, Feb 2013 discussion 2
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 22 January 2014, Jan 2014 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 23 April 2014, April 2014 discussion
- 1-year moratorium on further proposals, 1 May 2014, Endorsed in this discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, Not moved, 22 January 2016, 2016 discussion
- 1-year moratorium on further proposals, 22 February 2016
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation story, Withdrawn, 22 February 2017, 2017 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative → Genesis creation narratives, Not moved, 16 December 2022, discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation story, Not moved, 7 June 2023, discussion

[1] ttp://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/creation+myth

[2] ttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/creation+myth

[3] ttp://www.stenudd.com/myth/mythlogics2.htm

[4] ttp://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O69-Creation.html

[5] ttp://school.discoveryeducation.com/lessonplans/programs/bookofgenesis/

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