Talk:MAC times

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I'll chime in to explain the bias I see. A "de facto" standard is entirely subjective. In this case one may view it from amount of file systems or the adoption rate of the standard. This correlates to the Unix and Windows de facto standards with Windows holding the higher adoption rate and Unix having more file systems. Neither is better. 173.123.68.222 (talk) 05:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's a ridiculous definition of standards, and a misunderstanding of what "unix" is. A de facto standard emerges if several different independent implementations all agree to the same conventions for the purpose of interoperability. There are many independent unix-like systems (most of which largely conform to the formal POSIX standard), and even more unix-compatible file systems, and they've all agreed to manage MAC times using the same semantics. Microsoft has alone decided to do something different, and nobody else has chosen to follow their lead in the name of interoperability, thus what they are doing is not a standard in any sense. Just because a market leader does something doesn't mean it's a standard. Rvcx (talk) 11:02, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]