Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion July 4 to July 12 2004, consensus was to keep. Discussion may be found at Talk:Non-violent child discipline/Delete.
This was previously a subsection in the spanking article: "alternatives to spanking". I think it needs editing towards an NPOV presentation, not deletion.
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When I wrote this article last night, in the spanking article, under the alternatives title, it was with the hope that it would be seen as a practicable alternative to spanking, as the subtitle has suggested. I am glad to see it moved here, but it needs to stay, whether or not it receives extensive rewrites. User:Raina
This article is great. if anything it is written with excessive care to not present a POV. The vast majority is uncontentious and should be stated as fact. Rather than 'they believe' Erich 06:42, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
What a load of crap. You are in serious denial of our basic human structure and needs. What kind of tree hugging malarkey are you trying to people? People like me are always left to repair this well-meaning but unrealistic expectancy of establishing self-disipline within our children so that may become functioning members of society. --68.80.223.233 18:57, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
In what way have you had to "repair this well-meaning but unrealistic expectancy of establishing self-disipline within our children," user 68.80.223.233? I would seriously be interested in reading about your struggles in dealing with children who have actually been reared this way and not by parents who did not apply their time, energy, and their personal discipline in rearing their children. Raina 06:47, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I think the idea of hugging being used as discipline is quite stupid, but if you're given reasons for these things being in the list, it makes more sense.
Scott, I am not sure what has not been explained regarding hugging as discipline in the short article. My desire was to keep the article short, and with that in mind, I believe it is fully explained there. I think that what may be confusing is that all discipline is not uncomfortable or painful; some discipline is quite pleasant. For example, praising a child for work well done is a very pleasant for both persons, but it is one of the modes of discipline: it reassures the child s/he has done well and can continue to do well. Time taken with a child for play or for an outing is also very pleasant discipline, because this teaches the child that s/he is worthy of your presence, your time, your attention and spurs the child on to good behavior. The list goes on . . . .
Regarding hugging as discipline, there are hugs used to distract the child and to keep the child from negative behavior. This is discipline. Then there are purely affectionate hugs. These, too, are discipline, because they teach the child that s/he is worthy of love and helps them make decisions toward behavior that bring the caregiver's approval. Do these paragraphs answer your question? Raina 05:46, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)