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Thank you for your fascinating articles! I have placed this article on hold for now and left my comments below. As always, please ping me once you have addressed my concerns. Thanks, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 21:02, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Tolkien disapproved in particular of Shakespeare's devaluation of elves" – I think we could wikilink elf here.
Done.
"J. R. R. Tolkien, a philologist and medievalist as well as a fantasy author" – reads awkwardly, how about something like "J. R. R. Tolkien, a philologist, medievalist and author of fantasy novels"?
That would change the sense; reworded for clarity.
Thanks.
Tolkien's dislike of Shakespeare contains a lot of lengthy quotations compared to the rest of the article. This looks problematic as an encyclopaedia; could they perhaps be written in a more summarised style like Tolkien's interest in Shakespeare?
There's only one of any great length, the Curry quote, and it's only 67 words, the core message from a 15-page article. The reason for quoting the scholars, and Tolkien himself (48 words), is to make clear in exactly what kind of way Tolkien disliked Shakespeare, as that sets the scene for how remarkable it is that he then goes ahead and uses Shakespeare repeatedly. The Curry quote is clear and descriptive, and it crystallizes the essence of Tolkien's discomfort. I don't think I could say it better; certainly not in fewer words; and not without the danger of close paraphrase. This is an instance of where an attributed and cited quotation is amply justified. I hope I don't need to explain why letting the reader hear Tolkien's own statement might be a good thing. In general, if we are visiting what scholars are saying about a topic, it's far preferable to let them speak for themselves, as their tone then comes across naturally with the content.
Noted. As long as its only a single section than I have no complaints.
The final sentence in the first image caption needs a citation.
It's just a description of what is visible in the image, and the name of the illustration and the artist.
Oh, I see!
"Tolkien, in short, wanted" – is "in short" necessary here?
Reworded.
Not a huge problem but IMO the bullet points in King Lear are not entirely necessary.
The point is that the scholar has enumerated these distinct points. Collapsing them into a paragraph would make them less clear.
Fair enough.
"Tolkien transforms two of Shakespeare's motifs from Macbeth" – wikilink motif (narrative).
Done.
Unlink Éowyn and Nazgûl in "Not by the hand of man" as they are already wikilinked in an above section.
Done.
"As he staggers forwards" – maybe a personal choice, but recommend "As the Nazgûl staggers forwards" to avoid ambiguity.
Done.
"Hopkins further likens the" – "likens" was used in the previous sentence; not a big deal but is any alternative word choice available?
All sources are RS. Passes spotcheck—no concerns with primary refs 3, 5, 7, 8, or refs 3, 6, 7 or 14. Note I selectively chose to spotcheck references which I had access to (as opposed to my usual of randomly selecting them).
Tables, short description, navs, other templates and cats good.
Noted.
Recommend adding WP:ALT text where possible if you do not mind.
OK, added.
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