- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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Leo Skurnik, Salomon Klass
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that Leo Skurnik, a Jewish major in the Finnish Army, refused to accept an Iron Cross proposed to him by Nazi Germany for evacuating German troops under Soviet shelling?- ALT combined: ... that Leo Skurnik and Salomon Klass, Jewish officers in the Finnish Army, refused to accept Iron Crosses proposed to them by Nazi Germany?
Created/expanded by Pudeo (talk). Self-nominated at 19:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC).
- Reviewing... GirthSummit (blether) 15:47, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
Article is new, long enough, and hasn't featured on DYK or ITN before. It is neutrally written and free of COPYVIO (Earwig picks on the direct quote, but it's a direct quote and properly attributed). The hook is interesting, properly formatted, and supported by citations in the article. QPQ is pending, and I have a question about the lead - that says that he was awarded the Iron Cross - given that he actually refused it, shouldn't the lead reflect that too? (Can we really say it was awarded if he told them he'd 'wipe his arse with it'!?) GirthSummit (blether) 15:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- Personally the 'wiping the arse' bit makes for a great addition to a hook, perhaps something along the following? Just a suggestion. Spokoyni (talk) 16:39, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that when offered the award of the Iron Cross from Nazi Germany, Leo Skurnik, a Jewish major in the Finnish Army, refused, saying he would "wipe his arse with it"?
- ALT1 ... that when refusing the award of the Iron Cross from Nazi Germany, Leo Skurnik, a Jewish major in the Finnish Army, said he would "wipe his arse with it"?
- @Girth Summit: QPQ done. I modified the lede of the article to clarify he refused the award. I just created an article for the other Finnish-Jewish Iron Cross nominee: Salomon Klass. I'm not going to separately nominate it for DYK, but it would be possible to incorporate both of these bios in this hook (though this template is now substituted to be about a single article, it's fixable). --Pudeo (talk) 18:59, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- OK @Pudeo: - the changes to the lead satisfy my concerns, and the QPQ is done, so as far as I'm concerned I'm ready to add the tick - do you want me to hold off while you to modify the hook to reference the other article? Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 19:02, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, re-reading the modified lead, the wording seems to be saying that all three of them refused to accept the Iron Cross - is that correct? (I'm not saying it's wrong, I haven't re-read the sources, just wanted to check that that is what you intended to say.) GirthSummit (blether) 19:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit: Yes, they all refused to accept it. I added the combined Salomon Klass hook here, but I don't mind if it's not chosen, if for instance the ass-wiping hook for Skurnik is considered more interesting alone. --Pudeo (talk) 19:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
OK - both hooks are interesting and properly formatted. The source for the first one is online and checks out; I can't access the second one, but I am sure it's fine and am happy to say this is good to go. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 20:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Girth Summit: Yes, they all refused to accept it. I added the combined Salomon Klass hook here, but I don't mind if it's not chosen, if for instance the ass-wiping hook for Skurnik is considered more interesting alone. --Pudeo (talk) 19:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, re-reading the modified lead, the wording seems to be saying that all three of them refused to accept the Iron Cross - is that correct? (I'm not saying it's wrong, I haven't re-read the sources, just wanted to check that that is what you intended to say.) GirthSummit (blether) 19:06, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
