Template:Did you know nominations/Space Babies

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 18:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

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Space Babies

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Moved to mainspace by OlifanofmrTennant (talk) and Alex 21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: There are a few issues, but they can be resolved.

  • The final paragraph is supported by citations to Amazon and Rare Waves. The first sentence about pre-orders is ok, but the second sentence is not. Amazon is not considered a reliable source for future information, per WP:RSPSS. I would argue the same for the way Rare Waves is used to support something planned for the future. Either remove those two sentences or find other sources to support them.
  • The plot summary is lifted word for word from tragicalhistory.com. You'll need to rewrite it in your own words to avoid the plagiarism violation.
  • The quote in the primary hook does not match the one in the article and the article attributes it to Gibson only; not Gatwa.
  • Source for ALT1 checks out.
  • I can't find anything in the ALT2 source about the cast being scared. If you can find a source to support ALT2, I think that would be interesting to readers.
  • The original hook and ALT2 don't seem interesting to me. Dugan Murphy (talk) 21:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@Dugan Murphy: It seems that the plot summary is lifted from wikipedia and not vise versa. Removed the rarewaves and release date. Created alt3 to replace alt2. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:29, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

You appear to be right about the plot summary. Thank you for pointing that out! I looked at the source code for that tragicalhistory.com page and it listed updates only after this article was moved to mainspace; none before. However, the sentence supported by Rare Waves hasn't changed and the citation supporting it hasn't changed. About the ALT3 hook:
  • ALT3 is supported by the link you provide in this nomination, but not in the Variety link used in the article.
  • The wording doesn't entirely make sense. "The episode ... had to replace babies" doesn't work because the episode didn't replace the babies. People did. Dugan Murphy (talk) 13:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

@Dugan Murphy: I removed the Rarewave source but it was added back. I also adjusted the wording. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:52, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

I think the new wording for ALT3 is fine. There are still two issues holding back this nomination:
  • The issue above about the Variety citation has not been fixed.
  • The Rare Waves citation and the sentence it supports have not been modified. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:01, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
@Dugan Murphy: Done and Done Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 16:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
All the issues I raised appeaer to be resolved. I consider this nomination approved to go forward with the ALT3 hook. Great work! Dugan Murphy (talk) 16:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)