Template:Did you know nominations/The Ur-Quan Masters

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 21:27, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

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The Ur-Quan Masters

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  • ... that The Ur-Quan Masters is celebrated as one of the best free games, as an open source remake of Star Control II, a science fiction game widely considered one of the greatest games of all time? Source: "The Ur-Quan Masters has been included on several best games lists since its release." / "Journalists have listed Star Control among their best games of all time,[10] with Star Control II earning even more "best game" rankings through the 1990s,[11] 2000s,[12] and 2010s.[13]"

Improved to Good Article status by Shooterwalker (talk) and Jovanmilic97 (talk). Nominated by Shooterwalker (talk) at 19:04, 24 December 2020 (UTC).

  • @Shooterwalker: I'm not keen on the hook. It's a bit too complicated, and has a bit of a spammy feel. Could it be rewritten? Something like "...that [publication] named The Ur-Quan Masters, an open-source remake of Star Control II, as [whatever]?" might work. The article looks fine, though. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:53, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I can see how the tone feels a little too much like an advert, compared to how it's stated in the article. Let me try again:
  • Truthfully I think it does add to the hook to know that Star Control II itself has been repeatedly listed as one of the best games ever -- that it's not just celebrated for being free. But having trouble phrasing that without sounding like puffery. Shooterwalker (talk) 14:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
  • @Shooterwalker: Sorry I missed this response! I'm still not loving it, as it sounds like you're saying that the publications adapted Star Control II. I tried the following, but I'm still not keen on it because of the passive "has been described", so I've also added an alt 3 for you to modify. Josh Milburn (talk) 14:28, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that The Ur-Quan Masters , an open source remake of the 1992 game Star Control II, has been described as one of the best free PC games ever?

ALT3: ... that The Ur-Quan Masters , an open source remake of the 1992 game Star Control II, was described [by/in somone/something] as one of the best free PC games ever?

  • Re-reading ALT1 it's a mess, and ALT2 is much better. Let's wrap it up:
Just to give a little more info on what Star Control II was. Ideally we'd be able to mention that it's also one of the best games ever, but at least knowing the genre allows people to get a feel for what kind of game it is. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:51, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
@Shooterwalker: Yes, we're moving in the right direction, but I worry it's still a bit weaselly. (Define widely; and who described it like that?) Could the view be attributed to one or more journalists or publications? Josh Milburn (talk) 10:33, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
I'd be OK with ALT2b without the widely. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:34, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Maybe "widely" isn't the right word, but I'm looking for a word that sums up "a view attributed to several journalists and publications". Shooterwalker (talk) 15:10, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
"has been listed by video games journalists as one of the best free games multiple times"? Maybe we're approaching too wordy, but something like that could work? Josh Milburn (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
How about this? Shooterwalker (talk) 15:50, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
for alt3. Josh Milburn (talk) 17:39, 10 January 2021 (UTC)