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... that Marine chaplain Francis W. Kelly(pictured) was known as "Father Foxhole" for his insistence on being on the front lines of the Pacific Theater?
Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 23 September and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I don't have access to all of the sources but they look to be reliable and I didn't find any issues with overly close paraphrasing on a spotcheck of ones I could access; for the image do you have any evidence it was taken by a serving US military person, other than the setting of it? Its immediate source is a US newspaper. Hook is interesting but the nickname is only mentioned in the lead and that it was awarded for "his insistence on being on the front lines" isn't mentioned.
Thanks, give me a ping when you hear back and I'll pop back to complete the review. As you say the photo is almost certainly taken for official purposes but good to have confirmation - Dumelow (talk) 15:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Howdy @Dumelow:, I've just got off the phone with the PA Veterans Museum where the Inquirer got the photo from and they confirmed that the photo is an official military photo and in the public domain. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs18:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Darth Stabro, image looks good. My only hang up is on the "because of his insistence on being on the front lines" bit of the hook. I don't think this is explicitly stated in the article. We have "Kelly's time as a chaplain was marked by an insistence on being on the front lines" and "The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him "Father Foxhole" or "Foxhole Kelly"" but the two aren't linked directly. I'm happy to approve both hooks without the "insistence" part or perhaps you can suggest something? - Dumelow (talk) 09:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approving ALT2 and ALT3 above. I don't yet have newspapers.com access but happy to AGF that the source supports the statement in the article " The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him 'Father Foxhole'"; seems to be corroborated elsewhere anyway - Dumelow (talk) 20:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Chinese community of Kota Kinabalu sponsored the creation of the Malaysia Monument(pictured) just 20 days before it needed to be completed to mark the formation of Malaysia? Source: Daily Express
A good question, to which the answer is that I did not think about that at all. I quite like the infobox image, which captured the monument with the state and national flags around it. If others disagree, I can try to find another. CMD (talk) 10:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: I was wondering when this would be an article! Great work on it. New enough, long enough, sourced, neutral, plagiarism free. Hooks are cited and interesting. QPQ is complete. Per your invitation, I would like to suggest the following hook for consideration:
May be worth changing the end to "stating that it reflects customary practices and decreases conflict?" to make it clear that this is the view of the court and not a wikivoice statement. CMD (talk) 04:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the 1128 Battle of Axspoele(participant pictured) was a rare case of a mass cavalry charge in western Europe in the High Middle Ages?
Source: "in the west battle was uncommon and mass cavalry charges were rate ... only at Axspoele on 21 June 1128 was there anything resembling a mass cavalry charge and here numbers were small" from: France, John (15 May 2017). Medieval Warfare 1000–1300. Routledge. p. 60. ISBN978-1-351-91847-3.
ALT1: ... that before his victory at the 1128 Battle of AxspoeleWilliam Clito(pictured) ordered his knights to cut their hair and remove opulent clothing as a sign of penance? Source: "before battle he had all his knights cur off their long hair, cast off their rich garments and do penance for their sins as if they were expecting death" from: Crouch, David (15 October 2006). The Normans: The History of a Dynasty. A&C Black. p. 332. ISBN978-1-85285-595-6.
Comment: After creating this I realised the subject was already covered in a very short orphan article at Battle of Thielt (1128) which I have since redirected to this article. The new content is more than 5x the content here in any case.
Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 884 past nominations.
Article is new enough and long enough; more than 5x longer than short START article (under a different title) that it replaced; appears to have adequate references though they cannot be read on-line so sources are taken in good faith; both hook facts have in-line citations; hooks are both appropriate length; I think the first hook is better than ALT1, but either could be used; image is in Public Domain.Orygun (talk) 05:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article is well balanced, sourced and written from a neutral point of view. It is new enough, as it has been moved from draftspace within the last 7 days and the earwig tool found no signs of copyright violation or plagiarism. The hooks are interesting enough and the sources provided are reliable. Well done, WolverineXI(talk to me)10:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "Hired by union executive director Marvin Miller as general counsel in 1967, Moss argued the 1975 case involving pitchers Andy Messersmith and Dave McNally that led to arbitrator Peter Seitz striking down the reserve clause. That provision for a unilateral one-year renewal had been included in every contract since 1878 and had enabled teams to control players by maintaining those agreements could be extended perpetually. Seitz decided on Dec. 23, 1975, the clause meant only a single one-year renewal. The decision impacted all sports across North America and led to collectively bargained free agency in baseball."
... that French divorcee Adèle de Dombasle travelled to Polynesia in 1847 working as an illustrator, drawing people such as Queen Pōmare IV(pictured)? Source: "Adèle de Dombasle managed to produce several tens of drawings during her travels in Polynesia (and Chile). These represent monuments and sites from the Marquesas, Tahitian and Marquesan inhabitants with elements of material culture, landscapes and portraits—including from historical figures such as Queen Pomaré." & "In 1848, a young French divorcée11 who had sailed across two oceans, from Bordeaux to the Marquesas Islands" in https://archaeologybulletin.org/articles/10.5334/bha-656
@Lajmmoore:, The article is well written (and no longer an orphan). It is clearly 5x expanded, new enough and long enough. No POV problems and no obvious copyvio via Earwig. Images are from 1847 so no copyright problems.
QPQ has been completed.
The hook is intriguing, but could you double check that the hook facts are in the article with references following immediately. I couldn't find "divorcee", "travelled to Polynesia in 1847" is OK, "working as an illustrator" and "drawing people such as Queen Pōmare IV" are not immediately followed by references.
Another hook issue, note 11 in the source says she was "More precisely, separated from her husband, as recorded in French archives under the 19th century legal term separée de corps (de la Grandville 2001: 22)." fr:Séparation de corps en France looks like separation rather than divorce. TSventon (talk) 13:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much TSventon I think I have picked up these issues and those on the talk page. I'll propose a tweaked ALT so as to not include the marriage details:
ALT1 ... that Adèle de Dombasle helped pioneer women's exploration in Oceania and worked as an illustrator, drawing people such as Queen Pōmare IV(pictured)? Source: "Adèle de Dombasle managed to produce several tens of drawings during her travels in Polynesia (and Chile). These represent monuments and sites from the Marquesas, Tahitian and Marquesan inhabitants with elements of material culture, landscapes and portraits—including from historical figures such as Queen Pomaré." & the pioneer statement derives from the section in https://archaeologybulletin.org/articles/10.5334/bha-656 "Finding the Pacific Matildas" (first paragraph) Lajmmoore (talk) 19:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Ye Yanlan compiled 171 portraits of Qing dynasty scholars, but these were not published until decades after his death?
Source: Yan Jiasen (严家森) Ma Xiao (马潇) (5 August 2003). "[祖孙篇 叶衍兰 叶恭绰] 进则为达官,退亦是名士" [[Grandparents and Grandchildren: Ye Yanlan and Ye Gongchuo] If You Advance, You Will Be a High Official; If You Retreat, You Will Be a Famous Scholar]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 23 September 2024 – via Guangdong Library. [同时,由于他擅长丹青,留意搜集历代名贤的画像,其中清代学者的尤为丰富,积三十年之功,得到169人171幅图像,给后世留下了宝贵的《清代学者象传》。 At the same time, because he was good at painting, he paid attention to collecting portraits of famous people from past dynasties, especially scholars from the Qing Dynasty. After 30 years of hard work, he collected 171 images of 169 people, leaving behind the precious "Portraits of Scholars in the Qing Dynasty" for future generations.]
ALT1: ... that, according to his family, Ye Yanlan was compelled to leave government service after speaking Cantonese in front of the Emperor of China? Source: Yeh, Max (2006a). "The Yeh Family Collection". The Elegant Gathering: The Yeh Family Collection. Asian Art Museum. pp. 1–14. ISBN978-0-939117-33-8. "Family stories say that he was exiled out of the court back to Panyu because he spoke Cantonese in the presence of the emperor, one of those southern, nationalistic claims to resisting the “foreign,” Manchurian dynasty."
Overall: Hi Chris! This is another well-written and well-sourced article about a Chinese historical figure. Earwig shows that it is copyvio free, and the sources for the hook check out. Personally, I find ALT1 to be more interesting, (not because I am a native Cantonese speaker,) but as many painters have their works published posthumously, it is not really that special or interesting. So I would prefer ALT1. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul)13:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approve hook and image Huh, I was just reading about usages of neutron stars in fiction the other day, so this is a funny coincidence (wait, I think I was literally reading the hook source article, whoa). Article was approved for GA on the 26th, so is new enough. At around 7000 characters, it is long enough. The article properly uses in-line citations and the copyvio detector finds no issues outside of the direct quotes used. The hook reads neutrally, is cited in-line (said reference is used in-line for much of the article besides, so easily meets that), and is interesting. The QPQ has been done and the image suggested is in the public domain and views fine on a smaller scale. Looks good to go! SilverserenC02:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that in retirement and after a long career of military and civil service Walter Campbell Smith changed his legal name to Walter Campbell-Smith?
Source: https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/41787/page/5027 - London Gazette, 1959 'Notice is hereby given that by a Deed Poll dated 21st July 1959, and enrolled in the Supreme Court of Judicature on 5th August 1959, I, WALTER CAMPBELL-SMITH ... Retired Civil Servant .. abandoned the surname of Smith. —Dated the 6th day of August 1959. W. Campbell-Smith, formerly Walter Campbell Smith.
ALT1: ... that Walter Campbell Smith's ability in Latin helped win him his first job as a mineralogist in the British Museum, where he then worked for his whole career? Source: Cherry Lewis, The Dating Game, 2012, p 51 - google books extract https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Dating_Game/d2AZZ3NXuogC? - [Appointment as assistant to the department of mineralogy in 1910] "While Holmes came first in mineralogy .. he came second overall, Latin apparently letting him down. Walter Campbell Smith was awarded the post and stayed there all his working life"
This is not a full review right now(I'll try and get that done in a little bit), but I personally believe the hooks aren't really interesting enough for DYK, ALT0, and definitely more so. I didn't spot any eye-catching facts in my very brief pre-skim, but if @Chaiten1: has any other hooks from the article, feel free to add. If anyone disagrees that these are interesting, please ping me so we can discuss. --PixDeVlyell talk to me!23:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @PixDeVl: I have one more offline source to check out, but I will come up with a couple more hooks to try out. The guy served in two World Wars, was in the chemical weapons unit at the Somme, and published his last article at the age of 94, so I am sure there's something to be found. Here are two more:
ALT2 ..that Walter Campbell Smith's training in mineralogy led him to volunteer with the chemical warfare unit of British army during World War 1?
Source: Foulkes, Charles (1934). Gas! The story of the Special Brigade. William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh. p. 62. "The twelve volunteers joined at Helfaut ... and were of the greatest assistance in our first three gas attacks. ... Campbell Smith stayed on in the special brigade" [offline source]
ALT3 ..that geologist Walter Campbell Smith was still writing papers at the age of 94?
Awesome, thanks @Chaiten1:, I'll do the review soon. If you get any others from your offline source feel free to add and ping me. I'm leaning toward using ALT3 personally, but if you have something more interesting we can definitely go for it. --PixDeVlyell talk to me!17:21, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Looks good to me @Chaiten1: I'm going to WP:BOLDLY go ahead and give this full approval since I'm fairly confident in this being a compliment with the criteria(if someone disagrees please correct me). I will suggest before promoting that perhaps expanding ALT1 to mention who he beat(the guy who pioneered radiometric dating) would probably be interesting enough since beating someone who made such a significant contribution by being better at a now dead language is a fun tidbit. I'd leave it to you to pick which should be promoted(or the promoter, I admit I'm not familiar with the process of closing DYK noms, feel free to point me to the right page or explain it :p). PixDeVlyell talk to me!17:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalissima: are you sure it's correct to say that Sun "founded" the university? The article doesn't quite state it in that way. It seems that technically the university was established by the first edict of the Guangxu Emperor as part of the Hundred Days' Reform? If it is correct, was he the sole founder or a co-founder? Onceinawhile (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Generalissima: sorry to be difficult but are you sure that is right? It doesn't say founder or co-founder anywhere in the article. This source says: "On July 3, 1898, Emperor Guangxu approved a report to implement the Imperial University of Peking and to draft its charter. Sun Jianai, a senior Chinese official, was appointed “guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen,” or the (education) minister for the imperial university's affairs." The "guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen" is zh:Category:管理大学堂事务大臣. If we are to use co-founder we will need a source stating that. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Lorsque Christophe Derennes, aujourd’hui directeur général d’Ubisoft Montréal, s’est installé avec sa famille dans la métropole québécoise en 1997, il était loin de se douter que, 25 ans plus tard, le studio du quartier Mile-End deviendrait le plus important au monde, fort de ses 4000 personnes employées. [...] Ubisoft Montréal occupe les bureaux de l'édifice Peck depuis ses débuts dans le métropole québécoise."
Google-translated from French : "When Christophe Derennes, now general manager of Ubisoft Montreal, moved with his family to the Quebec metropolis in 1997, he was far from suspecting that, 25 years later, the studio in the Mile End district would become the largest in the world, with 4,000 employees. [...] Ubisoft Montreal has occupied the offices of the Peck Building since its beginnings in the Quebec metropolis."
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by WikiFouf (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Interesting: - Is this still true today? The source is from 2009, but the article doesn't mention this. Also, do all of the 1,900 employees work in the building?
@Epicgenius the source I included is not the 2009 NYT one, it's from 2022. As for where the employees work, good point, I'm pretty sure Ubisoft Montreal also owns some neighbouring smaller buildings. It could say "headquartered" instead of "housed" - WikiFouf (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WikiFouf, yeah, "headquartered" sounds good if you want to make that change. I was looking at the wrong source; my bad. Once you propose a revised hook, I can formally review it. Epicgenius (talk) 15:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I will be reviewing this momentarily. Before I pull out the checklist, everything looks good on the surface, and the GA passed, which is good. SirMemeGod15:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral and presentable. As the nominator has 5 or less DYK nominations, a QPQ is not required at this time. However, i note that alt0 is likely not interesting (WP:DYKINT) because in games like the Papa Louie series, its the player's responsibility to serve food to the best standards and also at a quick pace to keep the customer's happy. Good thing you provided an alternative hook. JuniperChill (talk) 00:37, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Frederick Prigg and his predecessor in the Oregon provisional government's secretary position were both doctors who died by drowning in a river at Oregon City just three years apart?
Source: On p. 11 of the "Oregon Secretaries of State, Biographical Sketches, 1841-Present", it says John Edward Long was a physician, then goes on to say "Long served as secretary of the provisional government from May 25, 1844 to June 21, 1846. … He served in that position until he was drowned while fording the Clackamas River." In the next paragraph, the source says Frederick Prigg was a physician, then says "Prigg was appointed secretary of the provisional government to succeed Long … He fell to his death from a bluff into the Willamette River at Oregon City in October 1849." The same events are covered in Footnote 74 on p.36 of Bancroft’s History of Oregon, Volume II, but that source say Dr Long drown in the Willamette River at Oregon City (vice Clackamas River, which also flows through Oregon City). As a result, I decided not to name the river in the hook … instead of just said "river", which applies regardless of which river he drowned in.
Comment: Article came from draft today after 960 days. Images have all gone though VRT. COI has been properly addressed on authors user page and though the AfC process. Might be of interest for anyone interested in Canada and the Arts.
Moved to mainspace by Dr vulpes (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
Article is new enough (just out of draft space), long enough and appropriately referenced. The images have appropriate permissions (CC-BY-SA etc). No copyvio problems. The hook is short enough, but perhaps is missing a word or two - are they landscape painters? Is there anything surprising about this? Should the hook link to these two as well? It probably just needs a tweak Chaiten1 (talk) 17:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Consider changing King's Prize to Sovereign's, since that's what's cited in the the OUP, though I understand this may be an anachronism. Will leave up to the promoter; otherwise good to go. ThaesOfereode (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks -- "Sovereign's Prize" and "King's Prize" are the same thing, though there's another argument for "Sovereign's" (that no woman had ever shot for the prize while Victoria was on the throne). I've made that change. UndercoverClassicistT·C10:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]