User:Collect/BLP

WP:BLP, WP:BLPCAT, WP:WikiProject LGBT studies/Guidelines This essay represents actual posts and indicates the necessity for editors to fully enforce the policy WP:BLP..

A living person may be categorized and identified as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTI) only if they themselves publicly identify as such.


Note: TMZ has been the subject of a number of noticeboard discussions:

  1. BLP/N: If including such a claim, TMZ should certainly NOT be used as a reference.
  2. We should not be using TMZ as a BLP source, especially for information like this. I have removed it from the article and asked for indefinite pending changes protection
  3. Obviously the authentic US Magazine and TMZ are marginal sources at best (although IMO TMZ has proven itself reliable for deaths),
  4. Not in the least. TMZ is never a reliable source for anything
  5. Doesn't matter what consensus is: TMZ is not a reliable source for negative or unflattering content in a BLP and shouldn't be cited even for neutral content. Moreover, TMZ text cited to support neutral text on en.Wikipedia may have negative or unflattering content: Citing such text to lead readers to that kind of content is also a violation of BLP.
  6. What would be the procedure to get TMZ on a blacklist? i cannot think of any situation other than the TMZ article where it would be an appropriate link anywhere in wikipedia
  7. The text is pathetic gossip that belongs nowhere on Wikipedia, and particularly nowhere near a BLP—the subject declined to do something, and Wikipedia should not be used to make a smear out of the non-incident (based on TMZ)
  8. RS/N: I wont bore you all with the further progression, but my point is that it seems obvious to me that TMZ is copying Wikipedia. I wasn't sure if this was common knowledge and wanted to alert people that these profiles on TMZ are not reliable sources


And in multiple places it is noted that TMZ uses Wikipedia as its "source" for celebrity biographies. Licensed, of course. But not something we should ignore. Current trend on BLP/N is don't use TMZ for biographies or for contentious claims proving the validity of this essay.

Sometimes I wander about in WP -- and sometimes I seem to strike gold. In one old BLP (dates etc. and names are mainly hashed up) one can see precisely why the rigid enforcement of BLP and all BLP-connected articles is essential. How better than to use the posts of one editor, long gone. From Notepad -- some stress is added, and most of the comments are removed. This demonstrates a concerted effort by a departed editor to insert clearly scurrilous material into a BLP. Ooops -- the article has all the gay stuff in it now. One very big argument for genuine enforcement of BLP standards.