In popular culture is a phrase that can attract scorn and derision across much of Wikipedia: it has come to symbolise the much parodied idea that Wikipedia articles on valid and important historical events and persons are overloaded with lists of crufty irrelevancies from television, film, music and other modern enterainment media. Although this is no longer a fair reflection of many of Wikipedia's historical articles, the question remains: what, if anything, from popular culture belongs in a Wikipedia article on an important historical subject?