User talk:Ashley kennedy3/Archive. Nishidani's discourse on West bank

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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Tznkai (talk) 04:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mayhap a statistical analysis of the amount of words used to put a minority perspective forward would be useful? Along the lines of:

  • PoT; ...legal position, internationally recognised; x number of words
  • WB and GS;... common usage, internationally recognised; x number of words
  • J and S used by Israeli national extremists and religious fundamentalists/extremists; x number of words
  • Dis T used by Israeli nationalists; x number of words.

just to have a look for any undue weight that may be within the article?

PS thanks for the BtS link; I'm not sure where best to place it...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 16:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I defer to the persons who have really worked hard in that area, esp. Meteormaker. No rush, I presume. This should be approached with great clarity, no fuss, and forensically. Whatever G-Dett's mastery of lucid prose is also needed. ps I think it is well documented that Likud and the settler movement are associated with the terms' diffusion from the late 1970s, but a good many Israelis who don't share their politics or perspective, who are not extremists, have nonetheless been raised to think of that area as Judea-Samaria. Nishidani (talk) 16:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Underlying Israel’s efforts to retain the occupied territories is the fact that it has never really considered the West Bank as occupied territory, despite its pro forma acceptance of that designation. Israelis see the Palestinian areas as ‘contested’ territory to which they have claims no less compelling than the Palestinians, international law and UN resolutions notwithstanding. This is a view that was made explicit for the first time by Sharon in an op-ed essay published on the front page of the New York Times on 9 June 2002. The use of the biblical designations of Judea and Samaria to describe the territories, terms which were formerly employed only by the Likud but are now de rigueur for Labour Party stalwarts as well, is a reflection of a common Israeli view.

Henry Siegman...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 14:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]