User talk:IHateAccounts/Archive 1

Archive 1
Your account has been blocked from editing Wikipedia because your username, IHateAccounts, is framed in terms of hating something or someone.
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-- The Anome (talk) 10:55, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

The Anome, this person has edited anonymously for long enough that I think it's fair to say that he probably does hate accounts, and since accounts are not a protected class I don't see why that would be an issue. Guy (help! - typo?) 11:47, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
The Anome, I have to agree with Guy. This isn't a problematic account name, IMO. —valereee (talk) 13:12, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

@GorillaWarfare: I finally do what you say and I get bullied more for it. Big surprise. And @JzG: "they" will suffice, I'll try to put a pronoun notice on my page if I ever get treated like a human being here. IHateAccounts (talk) 13:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Man, you are off to a bumpy start with this whole account thing. While I don't necessarily agree with the block, I do see where The Anome was coming from, and again I don't think it was intentional bullying (though I do see that you feel bullied as a result). Your name, while I don't believe you meant it this way, could feasibly be interpreted to mean that you hate people who edit from named accounts. The good news is that it's a softblock and you can just create an account with a different name yourself – that's probably easier than going through the rename process, since you don't have many edits with this account anyway, but if you do decide you want to do the rename we can help you with that. Hopefully once the rename is done and dusted we can all get back to article editing and this will become a distant memory. GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Well nevermind, that's sorted then. Maybe you and I (and anyone else on this page, if they so wish) can pick an article to collaborate on, so we get off on a better foot. If that interests you, any suggestions? GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm in —valereee (talk) 17:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
IHateAccounts, my bad, I usually do use the singular they. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:03, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
IHateAccounts—can you please explain why you hate accounts, assuming you hate accounts? I, for one, would be interested to know. They require me to have a driver's license. It may be an onerous procedure to get one, but I understand the public good in all drivers being required to get a license. In the interests of full disclosure, I think IP editing should be allowed but I think it should be discouraged. But maybe I have not weighed all considerations. So, I ask you for your input. Bus stop (talk) 16:50, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Not going to speak for IHateAccounts, but I remember reading the (semi-humorous) essay Wikipedia:Why not create an account? in the past and finding it informative. I don't personally share the perspective, but I respect it. GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:25, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
And I'll repeat what I posted at BS's talk: There are any number of reasons someone would choose not to create an account. In this person's case, they seem to believe (and I completely agree with them) that it shouldn't be necessary to have an account in order to edit contructively without attracting hostile attention. It shouldn't be necessary to have a bluelinked user name, ditto. It shouldn't be necessary to have tens of thousands of edits, or an admin flag, or a talk archive. But all of these things -- IMO, unfairly -- provide some level of 'seal of approval' in the minds of other editors. —valereee (talk) 17:27, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Do GorillaWarfare and Valereee agree with me that IP editing should be allowed but discouraged? Bus stop (talk) 18:05, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I do not. I think IP editing should be allowed and should not be discouraged. GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
GorillaWarfare—why do you opt to register your account? Do you not feel that registering an account represents advantages for you, and wouldn't those advantages be applicable to someone else? Bus stop (talk) 18:14, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't disagree that there are advantages to registering accounts, but if someone is aware of them and still doesn't want to register account I see no reason to discourage them from that decision. GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:53, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I think registering an account should be encouraged, but I don't think IP editing should be discouraged. Yes, there are any number of advantages to registering an account and editing from it, not the least of which is that editing as an IP attracts scrutiny from editors who find IPs inherently suspicious. :) The vast majority of edits by IP editors are well-intentioned -- someone is reading an article, sees a typo, and fixes it. That doesn't mean the vast majority of vandalism isn't by IP editors, but by and large editing by IPs is a major net positive. —valereee (talk) 20:14, 22 October 2020 (UTC)