User talk:Llywrch/Archive2

Poof! You've got sysop rights. Use them well. As your first act, let me suggest that you update Wikipedia:Administrators, Wikipedia:Recently created admins and Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to reflect your new status. --Uncle Ed 18:48, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

So much for being able to try to settle edit wars by saying, "I'm just another contributor like you, but it appears to me . . ." ;-) -- llywrch 19:39, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

No, that's still the way to do it. It's just that NOW you have to avoid BEING IN any edit war you want to settle. Otherwise some people will complain that you're pulling rank. (I made this mistake myself several times, until user:Eloquence straightened me out.) If you see the need to protect a page due to an edit war, you may do so, provided you yourself are not a party to the conflict; get it? --Uncle Ed 15:31, 3 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Actually I disagree with you over the term "pulling rank." Being a Sysop is much like the person one finds in every volunteer group who assumes mundane & thankless chores such as sweeping up, putting things away, etc. after every meeting. A volunteer janitor, if you will. Unfortunately because these people are at all of the meetings, the group officers get to know them well enough to say hello to, & as a result newbies think they are part of some secret cabal that runs the group.
I've always considered Sysop rights just another chore I've taken on here. Anyone who thinks having them somehow makes them a better Wikipedian shouldn't have them. (Although I'll admit it was a pleasant & timely ego boost to read all of the votes supporting my application.) -- llywrch 21:21, 3 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hello Llwyrch! I would like to invite you to have a look and give an opinion on my Ancient Rome proposed directory. Have fun! Muriel Gottrop 10:57, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the tips! I wrote to the other guys too. Cheers, Muriel Gottrop 10:13, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Why did you put Simón Bolívar on the Main Page? There is no indication in the article why it should be listed in the Anniversaries section of Selected Articles. Please add this context to the article per the guidelines for this. --mav 02:47, 11 Sep 2003 (UTC)


Hey Llywrch, I was just looking at the Hegesippus article and I saw it mentioned James the Just. Do you know if he is the same guy as James the Less? Both say they were the first Patriarch of Jerusalem, but they apparently have different families, so I don't know. Adam Bishop 17:54, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)

The first bishop of Jerusalem, according to Eusebius that was James the Just. I think James the Less was another Apostle, along with James the Great -- neither of whom were related to Jesus Christ, as James the Just is said to be (according to such sources as Matthew 13:55, Mark 6:3, and Galatians 1:19). I'll be honest: I'm not certain about all of the relationships between these people (e.g. whether one or more of these James is fictional), & the matter isn't any clearer due to Christian dogma about the nature of Jesus Christ, which forces the logical conclusion that He was an only child. (Although there is sufficient evidence that He had a number of step or half siblings.)
BTW, I wrote the article on James the Less, & right now I'm not very happy about it: it suggests erroneously that the first bishop, James brother of Jesus, & the writer of the epistle all were the same person, when the matter is still under debate. It also needs some more suorce citations. If I find the time today, I'll fix it. -- llywrch 18:13, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)
That's what I thought...I always get confused about the various Jameses. Isn't there also a James, Son of Zebedee? It's crazy :) The reason I was wondering is because I linked to James the Less in the Patriarch of Jerusalem article. The source I had said "James the Lord's brother", so if that's James the Just I'll fix that link. Adam Bishop 18:18, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Ah, no, sorry, I meant the Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem article. Adam Bishop 00:42, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hi Llywrch, I suggest you be careful with your use of charts. The last time I used charts the way you are doing, administrators erased them. See the discussion at talk:Wikipedia policy on charts. The best approach is to not tell anyone you are using them. mydogategodshat 14:38, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

If not you, it must be some else that has added the unacceptable "previous/subsequent" chart at the bottom of all the Emperors and Patrachs. Sorry. mydogategodshat 23:20, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Personally I have no problem with your use of charts or tables. I just wanted to let you know that there are many administrators that will erase these charts if they see them. They are concerned with what they call excessive HTML, intimidating new users, difficulty of editing and maintenance, and the "non-standard" look. Good work on the classics pages. mydogategodshat 00:29, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Hi Llywrch, I was looking at the WikiMoney page and saw your request for a translation of the Roman Emperors page into Latin, so I've attempted to do that. Of course, I've only been learning Latin for a couple of months, so I really have no idea what I'm doing! I assume you actually do know Latin...if so, would you mind seeing if what I wrote is at all comprehensible? It's at User:Adam Bishop/test. There are some links and dates still in English, but otherwise I tried to translate it all. Thanks :) Adam Bishop 19:30, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Thanks...your rusty Latin is better than my "five chapters from Wheelock and a dictionary" Latin. Maybe I'll just submit and see how badly it gets hacked up :) Adam Bishop 00:36, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Hey again, I'm not sure if you've checked it out, but the emperors article is up on the Latin wikipedia (Imperatores Romani). I had the title completely wrong, but I fixed that much, at least! Adam Bishop 18:49, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hello! Care to give an opinion on the format of kings of Portugal family tree? I'm not sure if the present works. If it does, i can make a similar page to all european houses. Cheers! Muriel Gottrop

  • Hi! No secret at all! Just a plain a simple corel draw graphic exported to *png. I started to use it for my geologic diagrams (my work) and then into the history trees (my hobby). I finished the Spain, France and Navarre. Coming soon... Cheers, Muriel Gottrop


On Caligula, what do you mean he had only one sister? He had three - Drusilla, Agrippina the Younger, and another whose name I don't recall. Don't know if he actually practiced incest with all of them, though. john 04:23, 31 Oct 2003 (UTC)


Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Rivers for a first pass. I never know how much to advertise new projects... Stan 04:20, 2 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Good adds to the wikiproject! The disambigging strategy is novel but seems very sensible. Stan 03:56, 3 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Ah, finally someone made a comprehensible Sea Peoples article :) Adam Bishop 00:52, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)


OK, I've just made some alterations to the baptism in the holy spirit thing. I hope its ok. You were right. But baptism in the holy spirit is diferent from baptism, so it shouldnt go in the same place Nbarr