Kein Probleme! Tschuess, Nevilley 22:19 Mar 22, 2003 (UTC)
Sorry that was so short - I meant to say, thanks for the email. I am glad you didn't mind my helping with Hanover - I hoped it did not look like I was interfering too much. I guessed that you were German from the "would/should" thing :) ... I can never get my head around that in German! Are you from round there? Do you know Bad Muender am Deister by any chance?? Nevilley 09:11 Mar 24, 2003 (UTC)
I had assumed that, given that it's a German city, "Hannover" would be the default spelling of "Hanover". But, since the one-'n' spelling is where the Wiki page is at, that's certainly the way to go. Just wondering then, who does spell it "Hanover"? (besides English speakers, of course, or are we the only ones?) -- JohnOwens 22:26 Mar 25, 2003 (UTC)
Hi, Marco. I was just being sarcastic because of all the complaints about how "Americacentric" Wikipedia is. Sorry to take it out on you. :) -- Zoe
Hi Marco, thanks for the river Weser map. Would you mind correcting "Bremenhaven" to "Bremerhaven" and "Hamelin" to "Hameln" - provided that these are considered correct here, that is ;) - Thank you. Kosebamse 18:56 Mar 28, 2003 (UTC)
Hi Marco, Just a note to say I have reembedded the Mugabe picture again. I think Mav, whom I have a hell of a lot of respect for, is fundamentally wrong on the picture issue. His method of placing pictures produces images that take up full columns even when they don't need to, which has the effect of editorialising by making the picture seem so important it has to be seen. Normal graphic design embeds images in text because (a) it is the standard look used by all encylopædias, books, magazines, etc (I have laid out a few advertorials for political candidates and images are always embedded. If they aren't they look decided amateurish, as if the graphic artist didn't know how to do a fundamental requirement in image use) (b) if they are not embedded the image can dominate a page, making it seem exceptionally important, whereas in reality images are used for illustration not editorialisation; (c) if a text box size isn't specified, they can affect text wraps and 'shift', particularly when viewed with certain browsers. The results can all too often be an embarrassing mess, not a professionally laid out page.
I've added in images on quite a few pages on wiki. I have always found that the page doesn't work unless it is well laid out, with strict limits set on the image, its location, its relationship to text. For example, I put images on Michael Collins (Irish leader) and an enormous number of images on Papal Tiara. I think on a visual level, the effect is to create a well laid out page that Encyclopædia Brittanica or any major publication could use in its current form. I don't think Mav's method works, gives a page locked in stability or creates a professionally laid out page. Hence my reversion of your change. I think the picture works far better and is browser friendly 'locked in' to the text rather than in freeflow, and it ensures the image, where its size does not warrant one full column, isn't overly dominant, producing editorialisation rather than illustration. Take care. STÓD/ÉÍRE 20:37 Mar 30, 2003 (UTC)
Hi Marco, I used to use 1px but I found if it reduced it to .1px because I found that visually it looked better for many images not to have a visual border, particularly where the the image itself is clearly bordered. Mozilla seems to see a line anyway. Explorer seemed to look better in many instances with the line there but so thin it was invisible to the naked eye. Sometimes things look one way on one browser and different on another (notably mozilla). What I usually do is go into a page I have laid out in a number of browsers to make sure it is OK. I had not yet had the chance to go into Mugabe in mozilla to see if the width needed changing. If 270 looked wrong, I would have changed it, done a show preview and kept changing until the box matched the image. The thing about using width is that where I don't use it, I just can't get an image to go to a specific spot on a page. Even relatively small images become centralised and end up making the page look odd. I put a full explanation on the talk:Mugabe page for Brion, so you might find a more detailed explanation there. Best of luck, STÓD/ÉÍRE 23:12 Mar 30, 2003 (UTC)
Sorry, I just saw your message. At this point I think that image is fundamentally flawed and should be replaced with one that only shows Mugabe (at a width of between 200-300 px). Cropping off Annon would be very bad because then we are left with Mugabe in front on the UN flag! :-) We could still have this image further down though (in which case the somewhat hard to see face detail isn't as much of a problem since a better image of Mugabe's face would already have been shown further up on the page). For now, I'll try to do a better conversion. --mav
Thanks mate for the recommendation for safari. It is excellent and best of all, NO MORE COURIER FONT!!! If it is compatible with your system try it out, it has a lovely clean feel to it that makes Netscape look like something from the dinosaur age. STÓD/ÉÍRE 00:15 Apr 2, 2003 (UTC)
I removed the Qt toolkit discussion from votes for deletion. The policy is to leave the discussion on the page if there's a dispute or countering arguments, but that wasn't the case for this page. -- Notheruser 04:20 Apr 3, 2003 (UTC)
I've just seen your changes to my style of pic insertion on SR-71 Blackbird and B-52 Stratofortress. This was a surprise since I've had plenty of compliments on my work with illustrations. I did not expect someone to change my style without being kind enough to discuss it with me. I know, of course, that Wikipedia is open but there are certain courtesies we should still keep to.
Of course, if your style is official Wikipedia (and I don’t know of any official policy) then I must give way and let you change all 103 pics I have put in Wikipedia!
I don’t dislike your style, but, as I have spent long hours slowly developing and improving my HTML to have the look of my pics just how I want them to look, I wonder why I need to be altered? I wonder how many problems your picture framing could cause with different browsers (I use IE5) whereas I have never had any problems raised by anybody with my non-framed pictures. Looking forward to your comments -- Adrian Pingstone 15:13 Apr 4, 2003 (UTC)
Hey there - it looks like you thought I was trying to delete the Main Page - no wonder you thought I was looney - please take another look!The Fellowship of the Troll 02:08, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)