User talk:Nickptar/Archive 1

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im not sure it wise to speak of the magical ritual i refferred to, but i can probabl get the information for you, as i have collected instructions for several, including two that MIGHT work ( as in arent complete bull plop, and well, if your a good enough magic user, (good as in skilled) might work.

Gabrielsimon 22:14, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm not saying I'm personally interested, just that it's good practice to cite your sources, or at least go into a little more detail/provide some sort of reference. From what I've seen on Wikipedia, if you can't back up a vague statement like that, it's better not to make it at all. Nickptar 22:20, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

ive spoken to people reputed to be masters of magic, or at least as much as anyone can be, ive also done rather eshaustive research, both in books at the local universtiy library and online.

(above comment by Gabrielsimon)

Then you should be able to go into detail. (I'm probably coming off as rude or brusque, and I apologize, but my intent is to help you become the best Wikipedian you can.) Nickptar 22:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

it will take me some time to get the sources back from whence i stored them, but i can, and no, your not rude. please be patient, as since i have ADHD i have some troubvle finding where i keep all my crap...

Gabrielsimon 22:39, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

whats confusing?

(The above comment was by Gabrielsimon. Please sign your posts.)

The sentence you've inserted makes me, and probably everyone unfamiliar with the topic, wonder: What is the other method? What is the nature of the ritual? How is it different - does it work better/worse? Why is it uncommon? Are there strong opinions on it? Etc. You don't need to answer all of those questions, but go into more detail.

Nickptar 02:42, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

blood is only a symbol, in that it carries prannic energy, so the blood isnt nessessary when Turning a vampire, if the vampire who wishes to turn another is suffucuant;ly advanced, they can bond thier life force with that of the turnee, so to speak, thereraby acieving the same effect as blood turning. thing is, that to achieve this, it is required that both be willing participants, and that both are capable of focusing thier minds and meditation. i have witnhessed this performed inside of a circle of salt and sand, which was said to be usefull for purifying the space thatt he two occupied, so that no one could comtaminate the experiance.

Gabrielsimon 17:28, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

All right. If this is in fact a notable part of the culture (as opposed to something no one's ever heard of), then you should clean that up a bit (capitalization, spelling, punctuation), take out the "I have witnessed" (not encyclopedic), and add that to the article and see if it's accepted. It'd be nice if you could cite a source others could refer to (in the appropriate section at the end of the article). Nickptar 20:08, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

its something ive seen one of them do, because he was afraid of blood borne disease.

Gabrielsimon 20:35, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you can't cite a source accessible to others (book, Internet) that describes it as notable, it's not encyclopedic. Sorry. Nickptar 21:23, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

guess you wouldnt allow me to say anecdotal evidance?

Gabrielsimon 12:22, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)