User talk:Thmc1

the IP address I use and apparently my account are blocked - can you please discuss with me when these can be unblocked?

Sockpuppety is not allowed. Q ^{T C} 00:55, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

there was no INTENTION at "sockpuppetry"; multiple accounts were used strictly out of fear of exposing the relationship between an IP address and user names, as stated before; I certainly did not know the rules existing about multiple accounts - now I do; I have a lot to contribute to Wikipedia, and it is unfair to block someone who was not AWARE of a particular rule. Certainly at no time was "meatpuppetry" involved. Other users also are unable to use this IP address now.

I've had a good long look at a lot of edit histories and it is clear to me that you were using multiple accounts in order to win arguments. The sockpuppet investigation is definitive and I see no reason to disturb this block. Accounting4Taste:talk 04:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with your assessment, but more importantly, the point is that I was not AWARE of such a rule regarding multiple accounts. Had I been AWARE, I would not have created a second account in the first place, even though I did so to protect the confidentiality of an IP address. What does an "indefinite" block mean for me as an editor - what criteria would I need to meet to become unblocked? I've already expressed a new understanding of a rule of which I was not AWARE and agree to abide by that - what more can I possibly do? Everybody deserves a second chance - I've seen editors who have done far worse being given that chance. Thmc1Thmc1 (talk) 10:55, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser shows that you have been using six different accounts. This is a checkuser block, and to be unblocked you will have to convince the blocking admin that this is the right course to take. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 11:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I guess I did not read carefully, and to be honest, I bet many (and maybe most) others would be in the same boat. And I absolutely DID NOT use SIX accounts - that's outrageous - for example, I have no idea where "Piephone" came from - I believe I have been FRAMED, as I have in many instances forgotten to log out. Also, I started Catchall1 when I first feared that the IP address I had been using may have been exposed and correlated to me, and I requested to delete it immediately because of the similarity with the "1" at the end to "Thmc1". Only during this "investigation" did I realize that somebody else took it over and has likely passed it off as if it were mine. "Septran" and "Zzzyzx" were then created, but only to try to wean off the high profile nature of "Thmc1", literally to blunt any specific correlation with the IP address, NOT to win arguments. Had I known it was potentially against rules or would cause such a problem, I NEVER would have even considered creating a second account - who in their right mind would? I feel VERY strongly about this issue now. How do I appeal to the blocking admininstrator Tim Song? Can you please alert him to my correspondence?

Blocking admins typically do not become involved in the unblock. Having looked at the contributions of 3 of the admitted accounts, they were indeed used on the same articles within a short time of each other - this is the veritable definition of a violation of WP:SOCK. There is no such thing as "weaning off" an account, as per WP:CLEANSTART. On top of this, if you have issues remembering to logout from Wikipedia, then neither you nor account is secure enough to be editing Wikipedia - the potential for damage that becomes your responsibility is too high. No valid or secure reason to unblock. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What happens from here then? Now I understand very clearly both the rule as well as my responsibility to remember to log out each time. What are my opportunities as an editor?

Your RESPONSIBILITY was to read WP:GAB before you requested unblocking. On that page you will understand what happens to sockpuppets in the section entitled "Sockpuppetry and Checkuser-based blocks". Note that "significant period of time" usually refers to the same as in WP:OFFER. Right now, you are untrustable - both due to the dishonest use of multiple accounts, AND your inability to protect the project by logging out. This is not punishment, it's clear protection of the project. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]