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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Firstly, percentages for the !vote counters: 59% in favor of keep, 66% keep/merge, 41% delete/merge, 34% delete, 6% merge. Clearly there are no indications of consensus on the !votes except maybe a weak consensus in the keep/merge category that the content itself should be kept. When I look at the arguments, I see a major misconception in the delete rationales. I gave a reading of WP:INDISCRIMINATE over just to be sure my understanding is correct. There are three criteria: 1) Summary only descriptions of works. After giving the article a read, I see quite an extensive and comprehensive article that far exceeds a summary of a fiction book or event including critical receiption, controversies, rankings, and impact. 2) Lyrics, clearly not. 3) Excessive listings of statistics. Although there is a particular section (Rankings) involving statistics, this is not the focus of the article or even an overwhelming section of it. So I'm inclined to throw out arguments of WP:INDISCRIMINATE.
Then after reading comments about WP:V, I was absolutely stumped by the rationales. Some rationales included, paraphrasing of course, "The subject is not listed in the sources." If that were a requirement of WP:V, we could never split an article. When an article becomes increasingly longer and requires more time to load on slower connections, it becomes neccessary to split it into it's own article. The subject is still where it was forked from. I don't think the need of a literal split is neccessary. This article is clearly forked from the main President Obama article and would be inappropriate for a merge unless significantly trimmed. That discussions, what should be trimmed or if it should be merged, can take place outside of this venue.
I don't find a significantly more impressive rationale from the keep side either. WP:SPLIT seems to fly in the face of WP:GNG which requires the subject of the article to have significant coverage in multiple sources. Again, when considering this as a fork of the President Obama article, these concerns should be put to rest. The sources discuss President Obama's use of Twitter and it's impact on the presidency and campaign. Finally, after reading both of the "Main pages" listed directly below, I see a consensus developing that ...on Twitter articles are going to be inappropriate overall. However, there is enough opposition to this blanket approach that I see no overridding reason to close this as delete. The result of this discussion is no consensus with the option to hold a discussion or RFC to merge. v/r - TP 15:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]