Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump racial views

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The automatic headcount reveals 45 "keep" and 25 "delete" opinions. As concerns the arguments advanced, the "keep" side argues that the topic has received ample coverage in reliable sources, while the "delete" side considers the article to be non-neutral, original research by synthesis and/or a POV fork. These are all, in principle, valid arguments, and the degree to which one agrees with them is within the range of legitimate disagreement in applying editorial judgment. There are a number of opinions on both sides which aren't much more than votes, though, and at least two "delete" opinions that must be discounted because they make a political argument by describing the article as "insane liberal bias" or a "disgusting partisan attack", rather than making an argument based on Wikipedia's rules.

A deletion would require a consensus to do so, based on arguments founded in Wikipedia policies and guidelines. The above makes it apparent that a consensus for deletion isn't a possible result of this discussion. The question is therefore whether this is a "no consensus, kept by default" or a "consensus to keep" outcome. The effects are the same, but we still need to call it one thing or the other. In our practice, a 2:1 majority, which this comes close to, is often approximated to consensus. In my view, we are closer to a consensus to keep here than to no consensus: Many of the arguments advanced for deletion refer to supposed defects that can in principle be addressed by editing, such as non-neutrality or original research, rather than arguments that fundamentally call into question whether we should have an article on this topic at all (as would be the case if, e.g., the topic were found to be non-notable or unverifiable). For these reasons, I think it is appropriate to give the "delete" arguments slightly less weight and therefore to arrive at a consensus to keep. Sandstein 13:17, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]