The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. There is no strong consensus for deletion of either articles. Editorial decisions, such as merging/redirecting, should be discussed elsewhere. –Juliancolton | Talk00:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]