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The result was delete. (Updated to expand the reasons for deletion). Although numbers are evenly we assess consensus by looking at the strnegth of arguments against policy rather then by headcounting. This is an article about the Traditional Marriage Movement that has lots of sources but the primary delete argument is that this isn't sourced and/or is non-notable. Wikipedia notability is demonstrated by showing multiple non-trivial reliable sources about the subject and notability cannot be inhertied from sources that are about something else. The keep side argue that the article has lots of sources but that is refuted by the deleting side who counter-argued that the article was a coat-rack and that the sources were not specifically about the Traditional marriage movement. Review of the sources shows that they are substantially about the subjects discussed in the article but not specifically in depth discussing the "Traditional Marriage Movement" so my closing is that the notability of the article has not been properly demonstrated.
Secondary arguments concerned NPOV, NEO and POVforking, original research (which I guess comes under a subset of WP:SYNTH and lots of assertions of notability or arguments to keep/delete that as pure assertions "or per foo" rather then evidence based. In a case like this where core sourcing issued remain unsatisfied, I really needed the keep side to be arguing by demonstrating sources rather then by casting personal attacks, pointing out that othercrapexists or claiming notability by assertion for me to give them as much weight as the delete side. The secondary arguments are essentially subjective so normally need a strong consensus that they are valid before being acted on exclusively. This means that the core issue here is proper sourcing discussing the Traditional Marriage Movement as the subject of the source and the possibility or original research through SYNTH which is likely a reasonable argument if the sources cited don't discuss the subject exclusively. Spartaz Humbug! 22:40, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]