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Category:Chancellors of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania
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- Nominator's rationale: Overlaping categories. If not merged, the older category should be renamed rather than reverse merged. Mason (talk) 23:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Mosques of Leicestershire
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- Also propose renaming Category:Mosques of Lincolnshire to Category:Mosques in Lincolnshire
- Nominator's rationale: Compatibility with Category:Mosques in England and Category:Churches in Leicestershire, etc. PamD 10:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge Category:Mosques of Leicestershire? I am not seeing objections to renaming if kept.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: See above relisting question. Merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:07, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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- Nominator's rationale: Now that the main article has been moved to the correct title, these categories should also be moved according to the C2D criteria ('Consistency with the main article's name'). --Humpser (talk) 18:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should "reformed" be capitalized?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- In the Netherlands they were also sort of synonymous, though Calvinist usually referred to the doctrine of the church and reformed was in the name of the church (Dutch Reformed Church etc.). In the Dutch situation, Arminians are considered to be neither Calvinists nor reformed, so the rename is perfectly ok. In Switzerland the rename is particularly useful because Calvinism and Zwinglianism quickly merged to reformed. That fits with Olson's statement quoted above that reformed is broader than Calvinist. Renaming the categories to reformed does not harm in that case (possibly there could be a Calvinist subcategory but I do not expect so.) If the rename is a problem somewhere else than in the US, Netherlands or Switzerland, I'd like to hear specifically in which country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Lean opposed. Wouldn't this narrow the category? This seems like making a lot of extra work and narrow the category. Mason (talk) 02:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Titles held only by one person
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- Nominator's rationale: The corresponding article for this topic was deleted a year ago, and I don't think this topic is particularly notable or likely to be covered in academic sources. Векочел (talk) 22:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Most of these are short-lived political offices. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Petroleum industry in Turkey
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- Nominator's rationale: Category containing one article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 19:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I just noticed there is also a category called ‘Petroleum in Turkey’ so I put the page there instead. So as category now empty I suggest deleting it Chidgk1 (talk) 06:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Musical instruments played with drum sticks
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- Nominator's rationale: Why do these exist? They are not actual categories like Category:Hand drums or any of the Hornbostel-Sachs divisions. The latter is a duplicate of Category:Hand percussion. Why? I Ask (talk) 18:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. But I admit I do not understand nom's rationale. While Wikipedia rightly uses Hornbostel–Sachs extensively, we need not restrict ourselves to this scheme of categorisation, and nothing in Wikipedia:Categorization supports doing this. Nor do guidelines mention actual categories (or have I missed it?) whatever these are. On the other hand these categories each refer to a defining characteristic. At the very least, nom should clarify their rationale and relate it to the guidelines. Andrewa (talk) 21:15, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- (Note that Andrewa is the creator). To clarify using formal Wikipedia terms, none of these categories are defining per WP:DEFINING. In fact, to say a snare drum can be categorized by its beater is wrong. Sure, it is played with sticks, but also soft timpani mallets, brushes (a type of specialty beater), and rutes. Hell, see Swerve by Gene Koshinski. The snare is played with hands, a triangle beater, and a door stop, and it is among the more popular solos for the instrument. The implements used to play percussion are non-defining given the nature of the instrument family and can be confusing for readers. Bongos is a hand drum but it is also incredibly common to play with sticks. I could place nearly any percussion instrument into all three of the first categories and it would be, to a certain extent, correct. Thus, these categories are useless. Why? I Ask (talk) 22:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it is no secret that I created this category. Nor is it relevant. I still get a !vote. Or do you see it as a COI?
- A snare drum is certainly played with beaters other than sticks... I regularly use rutes. But it can also be played using sticks, and most normally is. This distinguishes it from tympani and the conga for example. (In fact playing either of these with sticks risks damaging the head. I suppose it's no worse than a prepared piano but please don't try it.)
- So to say that to say a snare drum can be categorized by its beater is wrong is itself wrong, in my opinion. Andrewa (talk) 21:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I won't be WP:POINTY, but if I wanted to, using reliable sources, I could put nearly all percussion instruments into all of these categories (like I said above). And what defines a "specialized beater" versus "drum stick" versus "soft mallet"? This is another issue with these categories. Why? I Ask (talk) 07:28, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- No need to be pointy. Just provide these reliable sources. All you have said so far is that you don't like these categories. Andrewa (talk) 09:12, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: The question of whether Category:Hand drums... is a duplicate of Category:Hand percussion (as nom seems to think) is a separate issue, but as the owner of several hand cymbals I have an opinion on this too. I thank nom for bringing it to my attention... some suspended cymbals are played and intended to be played by hand, for example my awesome Paiste Traditionals 11" thin splash (scroll down to it). So some work is needed on the hand cymbals redirect... Also created I notice by the nominator of these deletions. I am investigating sources and should have them to hand in a few days... See User:Andrewa/percussion sources. Andrewa (talk) 00:47, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Films directed by
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- Nominator's rationale: Per longstanding consensus, a filmmaker has to have a biographical article about them before getting a "Films directed by" category to batch their films under. None of these categories have corresponding articles and all consist of only one film. An effort was make to broaden the categories by searching for other works by these filmmakers, and none were found. Vegantics (talk) 18:31, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Saulkrasti
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- Nominator's rationale: merge, only two articles in the category which are already interlinked directly. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Manosphere
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- Nominator's rationale: WP:COPSEP. Alternatively purge of individuals as Category:Men's rights activists exists. --woodensuperman 15:05, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Works about Yugoslav history
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- Nominator's rationale: merge, not a clear distinction versus its parent category, considering that Yugoslavia itself is meanwhile history. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:50, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Populated places in the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria
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- Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic, we do not usually categorize populated places by former country divisions, we do not have Category:Populated places in the Austrian Empire either. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Aviation accidents and incidents caused by fighter aircraft shootdowns
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- Nominator's rationale: The category name is grammatically awkward, overlong, and overbroad. All incidents currently listed in the category involve airliners, creating a branch of Category:Aviation accidents and incidents that largely and needlessly duplicates Category:Airliner shootdown incidents. Such incidents should only be listed in one of these category trees. Additionally, the category potentially encompasses combat in war depending on the definition of "incidents"; this creates potential category overlap with Category:20th-century aircraft shootdown incidents and Category:21st-century aircraft shootdown incidents. (Relisting to seek clearer consensus; I CfD'd this category previously but drafted the nomination poorly and did not suggest a merger target.) Carguychris (talk) 14:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Aloja, Latvia
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- Nominator's rationale: delete, each of these categories only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory. The subcategory suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]