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Original – Motor Yacht "The Alchemist"
Reason
Wonderful high res photo of a 80 foot motor yacht at full speed taken from aircraft.
Articles in which this image appears
Yacht - Motorboat - Luxury yacht - Gulfstar Yachts
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Water
Creator
WPPilot
Comment See Alt:. talk→ WPPilot  21:48, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Alt: 80 foot motor yacht Alchemist
@Sca, it at 80 feet is actually considered a Super Yacht, and I do not think that anyone in the boating community would ever consider this just a Speed Boat. With regard to Aesthetic value, Commons has few Aerial photos of any boats this one is from the DEA, Created: 2004-12-01 or this one a coast guard shot from 2007, are the only aerial photos I have seen. talk→ WPPilot  15:56, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I very much liked the original here, which I thought striking indeed. But I can't fault the technical objections raised. If it was a historical image, then per the guidelines that wouldn't matter. But that's not the case here and frankly Pilot has to up his (her) game. It's a bore, I agree. I have a whole load of images shot on my own gear I know are very fine from a compositional point of view, but I can't in all honesty advance them as "featured". Coat of Many Colours (talk) 22:00, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow that was a fun ride from" Yes, excellent" to "It's a bore" in a few short hours. OK, Coat of Many Colours thank you for your comments, I have, in the past already been able to retain a featured photo status for aerial shots of yachts: File:Cabo San Lucas Race Start 2013 photo D Ramey Logan.jpg and perhaps, if the airplane in your own gear bag is running ok would you mind showing me how it is I "up my game", as I would love to know, what your talking about in detail. Aerial photos here, on Wikipedia are not that common nor relatively easy to get as it is not easy to fly, and shoot :) talk→ WPPilot  02:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, it's the issue of technical excellence that is a bore, not the image, which as I say has wow for me. Wish you better luck with your other entries and I shall always be happy to support the ones that wow me. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 04:06, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Since there's not much to give it a sense of scale, it's only somewhat interesting after you read the description, not on first sight. Otherwise it's framed like any number of vanity aerial boat shots. I don't think I've learned or felt a single new thing from it. Slightly bigger than usual boat, as seen from above. I'm sure it would be fun to be in the plane or in the boat, but the picture doesn't capture that.__ E L A Q U E A T E 00:13, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 05:25, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Aerial photo of a 100 foot Blue Whale
Reason
It is a remarkable perspective few have ever seen, much less photographed
Articles in which this image appears
Blue whale
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Mammals
Creator
WPPilot
  • Senior moment ... I got carried away by its EV, but researching a little I can't see it's quite as rare as Pilot says. I'll leave my vote as it is, vote and be damned I say, but yes *hand quite properly smacked* and I'll be more careful in future. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 03:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 05:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Edvard Munch - The Scream (pastel)
Reason
Iconic. A 3,003 × 4,000 pixels 12MP file.
Articles in which this image appears
The Scream, List of paintings by Edvard Munch, List of most expensive paintings
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Edvard Munch
Thought about it, but nah ... bought myself a new yacht instead — But it's so stunningly beautiful!
  • It's a different version from the Oslo versions nominated before 1 first, 2 second. Second time round you opposed on the ground it had been published so often it's become almost a cliché, but not many clichés sell for $119,922,500. On both occasions the stumbling block was the lack of resolution, and indeed that won't be fixed until the holding museums issue high resolution images. But this was sold at auction and the on-line catalogue made available a 3,003 × 4,000 pixels 12MP file. That's plenty of resolution enough. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 22:21, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: First this does not appear to have a free license or a clear title, at least for Wikimedia Commons. Secondly, compared to the two earlier submissions; this image is quite grainy, especially along the roadway or bridge (whichever). I find that an unpleasant and worrisome feature for a pastel. It now appears speckled. The image is not restful in any regard, so smooth colours at least make it tolerable to look at. I actually prefer choice one, which has been earlier reviewed and not promoted. Fylbecatulous talk 00:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • You mean PD and The Scream is certainly PD in the US. It's true it can't go onto Commons until the beginning of next year when Munch comes into PD in Europe, but I'm not aware that's one of the criteria. First nom raised Les Demoiselles d'Avignon, one of the lamer copyright dramas in recent years, but it's unassailable that The Scream was 'published' within the terms of the Berne convention (i.e. made available for copying) before 1923.For example it was made available as a limited edition of prints in 1895. As for the resolution, it's at the mark and pastels at the mark 'are' 'speckled', that's the nature of their mark. Have a look at this Degas pastel Commons:File:Edgar Degas - Young Woman in Blue - Google Art Project.jpg. Why should you be worried about that? I should think it extremely unlikely that a Sotheby's catalogue for a work expected to sell in the high tens of millions of dollars carried a substandard image. Pretty sure at any rate we are not going to get better any time soon. Nomination 1 was for an oil painting and it failed on resolution concerns. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 03:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Welcome to the demanding (and discerning) world of the visual arts, Fylbe. I still can't follow your objection to the image here. There's no noise in that image. That 'speckling' is merely the mark pastel chalks make on paper especially prepared to 'take' the chalk. Really I think you should strike your oppose here unless you can make a more substantial case. Thank you. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Fylbecatulous: I think it's disappointing that you haven't responded to a request to clarify your issues. I take it that means you don't have any further issues, and since the objections you raised have been adequately explained by myself and by an administrator at the forum, I think in the circumstances it would be courteous to strike your oppose. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 12:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Really, I do not intend to strike my oppose. I believe it would be courteous to now leave me alone. I am an editor worthy to cast a vote here and it has been thusly done. It's disappointing that this process is becoming an unpleasant experience. I speak for myself, of course. Others may speak on their own behalf. Fylbecatulous talk 14:33, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Coat of Many Colours: As a relative newcomer to Featured picture nominations, I have read the exchanges above with interest. It is clear that you are all quite knowledgeable, but if the discussion takes on the appearance of a group of insiders making the decisions, newcomers will be deterred from voicing their opinions. Coat of Many Colours, I would be interested to know why you feel it is important that User:Fylbecatulous strike his opposing vote. It seems to me that if the image is worthy, it will receive additional supporting votes which will outweigh one opposing vote, and I think time ought to be allowed for others to see the image and express their opinions (especially considering that this is the middle of the summer in the northern hemisphere and many people are on vacation). Asking an editor to strike his vote is kind of like saying, "Because you got one or two things factually wrong, your vote is now invalid", and also kind of like, "You should have checked your facts before expressing an opinion here". That sends the message to potential participants that their vote will not be counted if they don't get their information right, which could be a deterrent to participation. If editors sense a kind, tolerant, and generous attitude, this could be a pleasant experience for all and an opportunity for editors to learn something new. CorinneSD (talk) 16:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Corinne. Indeed I've noticed you around and I left you a message here saying how much I liked your User page. In this case we have a newbie wrong about everything and apparently unwilling to cooperate. It would likewise be kind,tolerant and generous of him simply to admit his mistakes, embarrassing and possibly unpleasant though that might be, and move on. That's how I see it. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hafs' trusty old DC
  • @Fylbecatulous: I'm sorry to hear that your experience here has been unpleasant. If you could be more specific I should be happy to help in any way I can. You will forgive me, but you are a new contributor here are you not? It's difficult to judge from your contribution record because you are such a prolific contributor to Wikipedia, but that does seem to be so - that you made your first contribution here supporting Hafspajen's recent School of Raphael nomination, which I opposed on the grounds that it suffers a pronounced yellow colour cast on account of its processing (see thumbnails)? As an experienced Wikipedian you should know the etiquette about newbies joining forums. Really I must ask you to reconsider. When I make a mistake in this forum, I courteously acknowledge that I have so and make the appropriate remedial actions to set it right. With respect I courteously suggest that you ought to as well. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:17, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes excellent nomination which I warmly supported as well, but that's still only less than a fortnight ago. I think it would be generous, tolerant and kind of you to admit your mistake here and strike your oppose. I can't see what's unpleasant about that. Only a little prick to one'e sense of self-esteem surely? And then you can be confident of my good will. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • C.o.m.c. - you will forgive me, but you are a new contributor here also, are you not? It was 23 June 2014 you made your first edit here. Just about a month ago. Drmies, please tell this editor not to intimidate other editors just because they vote for a nomination s/he is vigourosly opposing for reasons og her/ his own. Hafspajen (talk) 17:29, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, I have to remind you that in the fact Crisco 1492 also votes support on the nomination you obviously trying to destroy. Just because you, C.o.m.c. doesn't think that nomination is OK; that doesn't mean that you have to put down this much energy on it - opposing it EVEN here, posting those painting even here. A simple oppose would have been quite enough, and in that case the whole thing wouldn't blow up like this. I think you go too far now. Crisco 1492, since when are we telling to editors what to do and how to vote on this project? Hafspajen (talk) 17:31, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Coat of Many Colours:. I have read the guidelines for this project page. I cannot find where it states that a nominator may hassle a commentor into striking what might be considered a misguided vote. However I do see: Please remember to be civil, not to bite the newbies and to comment on the image, not the person. Since you allege that I am a newcomer and to that I agree, Please apologise for your incivility, biting of a newcomer and commenting about me: ie In this case we have a newbie wrong about everything and apparently unwilling to cooperate. It would likewise be kind,tolerant and generous of him simply to admit his mistakes, embarrassing and possibly unpleasant though that might be, and move on. You surely misread me as to my motives. After my requested apology is given, I shall be confident of your good will. Fylbecatulous talk 17:32, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm asking you to concede what is clearly the case, that your objection had no merit i.e. to say there is no copyright issue and there is no problem with the image. In such a case it would be a courtesy to strike the oppose, especially when requested. I would not hesitate to do that. However it's quite plain you won't do me that courtesy. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 19:18, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Coat of Many Colours:, @Fylbecatulous:, @Hafspajen: It is clear that feelings have been ruffled on all sides. Coat of Many Colours, you didn't answer my question in my comment, above, as to why it is so important to you that Fylbecatulous's comment and vote be stricken. Don't you expect more editors to come along, see the image, and vote? I think your nomination has a very good chance of passing, but if for some reason it doesn't, you can always nominate it again in a few weeks or months. I think that asking someone to strike his or her comment and vote can be perceived as bossy, as if you were the page's director, and some people don't like to be told what to do, or even asked to do something when in reality they perceive that they are being told what to do. Unless that is customary on Wikipedia Featured Picture Candidate pages, perhaps you ought not to ask people to strike their comments and votes. I've seen many other support-oppose discussions on WP FP Candidate pages where there is a polite exchange of concerns and information among a number of editors. I don't remember seeing, "Now that you realize you were wrong, would you kindly strike your vote?" On the other hand, I have seen votes stricken with a strike-through line. Presumably, the editor had changed his/her mind after learning something. If that is the custom here, we need to observe it.
    Fylbecatulous is right in saying that you should try to limit your comments to the image and not focus on the editor. Saying in a place where he and others can read it that he is "a newbie wrong about everything and apparently unwilling to cooperate" exacerbated the situation. He was already upset before that, and this made him more upset. He may have seemed "unwilling to cooperate" when he failed to strike his comment and his vote, but it is clear he was upset with your request.
    I think that if an editor constantly makes comments at WP FP Candidate discussions that are full of wrong information or express irrelevant concerns, more than one other editor will probably say something to him/her. But no one can accuse a new editor of constantly doing anything if he/she has not been editing very long.
    Coat of Many Colours, I myself have made the mistake of thinking that if something would be easy for me to do, it ought to be easy for others to do. You wrote, above, "When I make a mistake in this forum, I courteously acknowledge that I have so and make the appropriate remedial actions to set it right." While I agree that part of polite discussion is to admit when one is wrong, it isn't always necessary to do that. One can simply desist from continuing to argue one's point of view. However, you wanted Fylbecatulous to "make the appropriate remedial actions to set it right", which to you would have been for him/her to strike his/her vote. You may have felt that was the appropriate action, but Fylbecatulous may not have felt it was necessary. That doesn't mean he/she was uncooperative, and to accuse him/her of being uncooperative made things worse.
    Sometimes, it is not what you say that causes problems, but how you say it. Sometimes, it is what you say that causes the problem. I'm not 100% sure which of these is the case here, but perhaps we can put this behind us and focus on the image. You're all so bright, and I have enjoyed reading your comments and learning from them, and perhaps others have, also. CorinneSD (talk) 03:17, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks Corinne. You are brave. Maybe you are right - C.o.m.c. is affraid that more editors to come along, see the image, and vote... Now when this nomination so effectively is killed, spitted on and dragged in the mud - what an annoyance would be if two more headstrong editors would come by and vote in the very last 24 hours, hahaha what a dissapoitment that would be, that would be really funny... Well, Insha'Allah, - "os mynn Duw". Hafspajen (talk) 04:19, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CorinneSD: Thank you for your remarks Corinne. I'm sure that's a sensible analysis. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 04:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • So here's where Fylbecatulous gets to speak for myself. Again, my motives have not been accurately described by others, but thank you, CorrineSD, for quite kind and affirmative comments on my behalf. Really appreciated. My reason for not reverting or striking my vote, (which was cast in the light of the best knowledge I have about the criteria, as dim as it may be), has nothing to do with defiance, embarrassment, pride, being upset, whatever. Here's the thing. There has become a perception by myself from lurking and from others who participate frequently; that the atmosphere is recently becoming difficult, unfriendly, snarky, and argumentative. A hostile environment where there used to be civility. This exchange for this submission is just one example.
    I am simply standing my ground and therefore not reinforcing what I perceive to be bad behaviour towards another editor (in this case, me), (but that has been duly noted by others as well). If I give in to being bullied or coerced and pinged or talked about in a bad light, and strike my vote, made in good faith, due to feeling intimidated; I have just reinforced the negative behaviour that we wish would go away. So I do not question authority, so if one of those admins happens along that keep getting pinged to this thread; and requests me to amend or strike my comments or vote, I shall do so on that basis, Otherwise, the nominator and one who has been hassling me, is no more an authority than I, so I intend to ignore. Perhaps an admin would also remove the two unrelated images that were added to make fun of Hafspajen's entry elsewhere. Thanks. Fylbecatulous talk 15:23, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 17:17, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]




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Original – This is a widely published lithographic facsimile of the Bixby letter, sent to a Mrs. Brixby who reported losing five children in the American Civil War. The original letter is lost.
Reason
High quality scan of a facsimile of a notable (now-lost) letter signed by Abraham Lincoln. Besides, we can't let Adam have the whole Civil War category to himself now, can we?
Articles in which this image appears
Bixby letter
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/American Civil War
Creator
Signed Abraham Lincoln, but some think John Hay penned the letter
  • Support as nominator –  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from offer your support to a letter so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the community who may yet have a chance to learn of the this power literary piece. I pray that our Heavenly Father may leave you only the cherished memory of the nomination, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have successfully beaten Adam to the punch. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Not overwhelmed by the EV of this I have to say. Would be happy to support a genuine autograph of Lincoln, and autographs in general. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 15:59, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Who said this had EV only as a sample of Lincoln's handwriting? That's a dime a dozen, almost. This has EV as a facsimile of the original Bixby letter. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Featured? My understanding is that it's a facsimile of a forgery, likely by John Hay, who provided one of the Gettysburg address it seems. I did look at the category. I just can't see taking its place there. Not opposing, just explaining why I'm not supporting. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:48, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • CN on "forgery", please. Read Hay's article. Current scholarship is that either Lincoln wrote the letter himself, as generally held, or that Hay wrote the letter (i.e. wrote the original letter) in Lincoln's name as part of his duties as Lincoln's secretary. No matter who penned it, the Bixby letter is notable (i.e. has an article on it) and this is an almost exact reproduction of it. The only image that would have more EV in the Bixby letter article is a scan of the original, which no longer exists. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • Also, for the category: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/History/USA History is home to the scan of the embossed copy of the Declaration of Independence and the check used for the Alaska Purchase, suggesting documents go in the history category. Since we have one exclusively for the American Civil War, I used that category for this document (which is from the Civil War, after all). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:37, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
          • Not convinced. It's a condolence letter. A high resolution scan of a original in Lincoln's handwriting (you say his autographs are two a penny) would have EV. A forged (by common consent) facsimile of a particular example doesn't IMHO. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per TomStar81. Hafspajen (talk) 00:55, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I see no reason why I can't have the category to myself. Support. Whether real or forgery, this specific lithographic reproduction is discussed in the article. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:05, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • To highlight images that add value to articles. The van Meegeren forgeries are notable and an image of one of them no doubt worthy of a place in the Vermeer article. But if such an image was made a Featured Picture candidate I would certainly question its EV. Same here. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 07:57, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • First of all this is going to be my last remark here. It's just a comment saying that, personally for me, I can't see its EV. That's what we are after here, EV not notability. That's the criteria, notability after all being a given, or should be, if an item is to appear in the encyclopaedia at all. For me a reproduction of genuine letter of condolence written by Abraham Lincoln would have EV, but this facsimile of a forgery doesn't pique my interest at all. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 17:19, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- Just 'cos I'm off on my hols and I don't want to feel weighed down by guilt as I sun myself on the beach. I would like to see more autographs Featured. Of course the major auction house have regular sales of these, accompanied by high resolution images in their catalogues. I'll make a point in future of uploading any that catch my eye, much as I did with the British Guiana 1c. Magenta. Looking round for a parting nomination yesterday, I was surprised to see that there are no Hubble Deep Field images, unless they're buried somewhere implausible in the categories. This recent one didn't make it through Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Hubble_Ultra_Deep_Field_2014 only last month. Odd that. I mean I grant that the whole world and their mums (pet dogs and cats, snakes, ducks whatever) don't necessarily rush to this forum, but there are enough nominating here to help images like these through. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Authorship questions aside, an historic letter, in the only state (facsimile) known.-Godot13 (talk) 17:01, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose- I'm confused, this is a (admittedly good) scan of a mere copy of the letter; that doesn't deserve to be featured. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 17:14, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Bixby letter facsimile.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 10:03, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Interior of the Great Mosque of Central Java
Reason
A bit noisy and distorted at the top, but very high resolution, which I think is ample to make up for the minor flaws. Illustrates the subject in a way that a mere description wouldn't, showing its grandeur and elegant simplicity. Also, why should Chris get to nominate all the images of things in Indonesia, eh?
Articles in which this image appears
Great Mosque of Central Java
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator
Chris Woodrich (a.k.a Crisco 1492)

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 00:31, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The dining hall of Magdalene College in Cambridge, England. The hall's tables have been set for a formal lunch.
Alt - Lens flares edited out.
Reason
It's an interesting view of the dining hall of Magdalene College, one of the constituent colleges of the University of Cambridge in England. The photo was taken from the very corner of the room, allowing me to get a wide angle view that was able to capture the entire table in the foreground (if you look closely, you can see that you're looking almost directly down on the nearest chair). Detail is good enough that you can practically read what was for lunch on the menu. :-)
Articles in which this image appears
Magdalene College, Cambridge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator
User:Diliff

Promoted File:Magdalene College Dining Hall, Cambridge, UK - Diliff - sans lens flares.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 01:18, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The chapel of St John's College, Cambridge, England.
Reason
The beauty of the interior speaks for itself, but I think the the ambiance and details are captured nicely.
Articles in which this image appears
St John's College, Cambridge and Choir of St John's College, Cambridge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator
User:Diliff
  • Probably fixable. Yes, you're right, that's parallax. I wasn't able to shoot this with a panoramic head unfortunately, as I was shooting this through a wrought iron gate. I also couldn't quite shoot it from the middle of the chapel because the two gates close in the middle which forces you to shoot slightly from one side or the other. Barely noticeable indeed, I was aware that there could be slight parallax issues in this image and I looked long and hard before uploading it! I'll see what I can do about fixing it. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 08:46, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, should be largely fixed now. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:49, 25 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you have some time in the near future is it possible for you to point out the issue you saw involving the parallax. I stared at this image so long I am truly shocked I didn't see what the issue was...but I am truly glad it was worked out because the image is just beautiful!--Mark Miller (talk) 00:31, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the stitching errors in my interior below were so small, I wouldn't have opposed. Do you see the line of orange tiles heading north-east (pretend this is a map?) Four tiles from the bottom there is a very small disconnect. It's more obvious with the black tile just north of the one I pointed to. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:St John's College Chapel, Cambridge, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 01:18, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Édouard Manet, A Bar at the Folies-Bergère
Reason
Édouard Manet's last major work, dating from 1881-82. Griselda Pollock calls it an image of modernity, concerning itself with "unstable reflections and ambivalent identities in a world of commodities and public spectacles". The device of the mirror stretched behind the barmaid borrows from Mary Cassatt's 1879 Woman with a Pearl Necklace in a Loge, a portrait of her terminally ill sister Lydia, while the detail of the fashionably dressed lady holding opera glasses to her eyes is a direct quotation from her 1878 painting At the Opera. One of the commodities on display here was, of course, the barmaid herself. Naturally Cassatt could not frequent such places, but Manet exulted in them. He was to die of syphilis in 1883, some six month after the death of Cassatt's sister Lydia. Berthe Morisot, subject of a celebrated portrait by Manet, was with him at the end, writing to her sister "These last days were very painful; poor Édouard suffered atrociously. His agony was horrible. In a word, it was death in one of its most appalling forms ...".
Articles in which this image appears
A Bar at the Folies-Bergère, Courtauld Gallery
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Édouard Manet

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 16:46, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalNighthawks is a 1942 oil on canvas painting by Edward Hopper that portrays people in a downtown diner late at night. Since then the painting has been the subject to many parodies and homages, including in The Simpsons episode "Homer vs. the Eighteenth Amendment".
Reason
High quality scan of a painting with high EV.
Articles in which this image appears
Nighthawks (most EV), Night in paintings (Western art), Visual art of the United States, +5 others
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Edward Hopper
  • It's not a "scan" is it? It's a digital image and the file description just gives the source as "email". I don't think that's very satisfactory. It does look like the museum image (realistically it's certainly the museum image because it's virtually impossible to copy colour values with such fidelity), though not immediately apparent its rights managed high resolution version, which is still larger. Nevertheless it's most likely a reduced version of it. No copyright issues in the US, but indeed contractual issues which uploaders of these images ought to be aware of, especially as it would be routine to add a digital signature to the image identifying the purchaser. I mean I have dozens and dozens of such images from the British Museum, but I wouldn't dream of uploading them to Wikipedia, though I do occasionally their publicly available images. Not sure if Wikipedia has any liability in such cases. I think it probably must have if it's knowingly hosting these images. That would seem plausible to me. As of course would presumably the admins overseeing the forum here. I do think there should be a policy about sources here. They should be transparent. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 11:42, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Nighthawks by Edward Hopper 1942.jpg ----Mdann52talk to me! 10:19, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalAlbert Einstein 1921 by Ferdinand Schmutzer
Alt 1 - Restored version by Adam Cuerden
Reason
One of the few early photographs of Einstein available. Rediscovered in 2001 by the estate of Ferdinand Schmutzer. The image is being renominated following the resolution of a copyright problem which got in the way of the last nomination. I have chosen a sepia print because Schmutzer's 1921 etching (which incidentally 'publishes' the image under US case law thus making it PD regardless of other copyright considerations) is a sepia aquatint.
Articles in which this image appears
Albert Einstein and History of Germany (highest EV)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Science and engineering
Creator
Ferdinand Schmutzer

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:18, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalJohannes Vermeer - Christ in the House of Martha and Mary, 1665
Reason
Vermeer's earliest work ( Saint Praxedis is possibly earlier but its autograph is disputed, although that didn't stop it selling for £6 million at a Christie's sale this month). Martha, with her eyes downcast, evokes several of Vermeer's later canvases such as The Milkmaid .
Articles in which this image appears
Christ in the House of Martha and Mary (Vermeer) and four others.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Johannes Vermeer

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The Old Court of Selwyn College, University of Cambridge, England. Middle-left is the chapel, right is the college hall.
Reason
It's an aesthetic view of the college courtyard and has good detail, showing the brickwork, the arrangement of buildings etc.
Articles in which this image appears
Selwyn College, Cambridge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
User:Diliff

Promoted File:Selwyn College Old Court, Cambridge, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:57, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Reason
This is a set nomination of two images, showing the view from both ends of the chapel. I think either image would be of sufficient quality individually but as a set, they add slightly more EV. It is the interior of the chapel of this nomination.
Articles in which this image appears
Selwyn College, Cambridge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator
User:Diliff

Promoted File:Selwyn College Chapel 1, Cambridge, UK - Diliff.jpg Armbrust The Homunculus 00:48, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:Selwyn College Chapel 2, Cambridge, UK - Diliff.jpg Armbrust The Homunculus 00:48, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The William Crooks, the first locomotive to operate in Minnesota.
Reason
A rather good illustration of a historic locomotive, from the period when it was in use. Identified by an expert on the subject, We hope, and the identification definitely does seem to check out.
Articles in which this image appears
William Crooks (Could probably go into a few others, like Swinburne, Smith and Company)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Land
Creator
National Photo Company, restoration by Adam Cuerden
  • Support My personal preference is to see photos of locomotives and trains when they were in service as I think it adds more to the understanding of why this locomotive or train is/was important. There are any number of color photos of the Crooks on exhibit at Union Depot and the Lake Superior Railroad Museum, but a photo like this has captured an instant in history. We hope (talk) 19:46, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose due to the man blocking part of the front of the train and the strong light at the top of the photo. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 17:11, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:William Crooks at station.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 03:53, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalJohn William Waterhouse The Lady of Shalott (1888)
Not for nomination - AutoContrast edit in LCH space
Reason
John William Waterhouse's The Lady of Shalott (1888) was one of Sir Henry Tate's founding gifts to the Tate Gallery and has always been one of Britain's favourite paintings.
Articles in which this image appears
The Lady of Shalott
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
John William Waterhouse
  • It's a Google Art Project work. At 100% it looks fine. Its the image at 100% we should be judging not its thumbnail. If you take the virtual tour in the Google Cultural Institution you can see the painting as hung is naturally a rather sombre one. The thumbnail is actually missing some 20% of the lighter tones in RGB colour space. If you try to adjust it with the naive techniques used in the Romano painting nominated here you get the same sort of hideous result you see there. I've uploaded an Autocontrast edit in LCH space which editors coming after me can use as a thumbnail if they like. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 05:56, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Without being too judgmental, I would rather you stopped accusing people of judging "the thumbnail". I am familiar with this painting. It is way darker than the original and is just not Feature quality to me.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm saying it looks just fine at 100%. The thumbnail is indeed too dark by some 20%. We know that's a problem with some Google Art Project images. I suggested a workround as far as the thumbnail is concerned. I love this painting too. It's one of the most popular at the Tate. I'm glad you're familiar with it. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 07:17, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello Xanthi. We've already corresponded elsewhere when you wondered whether I was making up my criticism of another image here and it's plain that you're expert in imaging, which makes me wonder why you are commenting here like this. The Tate Gallery image is a scaled down version of its license managed image available for fees typical ranging from £50 to £250 or more depending on how many copies it is proposed to publish. It's a 27.6 Mb file comapred with Google's 6.6 Mb and the first thing that can be said about it is that Wikipedia isn't going to to get to lay its hands on it unless an editor makes a legacy donation of it, unlikely I think. I think it's quite possible it was taken years ago, but the main point is that neither of the two images can be held to be inauthentic in the way I have critised other images appearing in this forum. It's within normal variation for art images.There is nothing in WP:FP?#1 criteria concerning technical standards that precludes it, nor in WP:FP?#8 regarding digital manipulation, the issue in the image we discussed elsewhere. There's no reasonable prospect of a better image appearin soon, and if I may so the feature here isn't its eye-candy wowness, but its utility as a source for students anxious to examine more closely the artist's technique.
I have no agenda in promoting this image (maybe there's be a message there, maybe not ). I gather at least one aficionado of this forum are pre-Rapaelite fans, so I present one ... itt van! I shall check its progress with interst when I return (off for a while). Coat of Many Colours (talk) 18:41, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
To show Waterhouse's technique (for example his use of heavy textured paint on highlights over a flatter surface) a photo at an angle with raking light is useful. A clearer example is "Bird's Nest" Hunt where his distinctive contribution to watercolour technique isn't shown by flat-on photos. According to Margulis (who devotes a chapter to the subject) LCH or equivalent colour space is the most useful for removing casts or increasing the range of colour in an image- so it may be possible to bring the image closer to the Tate rendition. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 20:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, well I wouldn't claim to match Dan Margulis's expertise, even read his books, and I don't own Adobe Photoshop or intend ever to. I think it's quite possible there are edits out there which are still superior, but I would say LCH space should be the starting point. The only thing I would say is that the Tate image may not be the reference of choice here. I mean I just don't know, I haven't looked at the painting in more than 20 years. I do recall it's pretty sombre. When I get back I might try to find a forum which discusses these Google images. They're not all wonderful by any means and I don't think articles should blindly link to them. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 21:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - another crappy Google Art rendition. They really should hire someone to do some post-processing. While there may be nothing unauthentic about the rendition, technically a 100% black rectangle is also authentic (image under no light). It would be hugely disappointing to feature such a dark, drab version of the painting. Kaldari (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not adding it here, because I'm not pleased with it. But my oppose on the darkness issue still stands. There are some very interesting color dynamics going on here, but they're lost in the darkness of the scan. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:56, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • When I get back I'll get in touch with the Tate and with Google about this image. From what I can remember the Google image is more likely to be the more accurate tonally. The painting is really very sombre, as you might expect from its subject (she was after all sailing to her death). Of course it's gorgeously rich in those autumnal hues. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 16:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree, it's a sombre painting, but that doesn't preclude dynamic colours. The reds and golds of the tapestry vs the whites of her gown, in particular, are a little lacking in the Google scan. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Google Art Project sheds more light on the Tate. The impression I get is that Google provides its own images of artworks when they do a Virtual Tour of a museum. I can quite readily believe these are often superior to the images a gallery provides. Equally they can't all be successful. It's interesting that when I search on the terms "Google Art Project image too dark" I only find these posts here i.e. to say it seems not to have been an issue debated elsewhere. Whatever the source used, it should be documented and verifiable. I have been editing some Mauritshuis files on Commons recently. It's quite common to see high resolution digital images uploaded that can only have come from their rights managed collection. They are typically sourced as "unknown" or given spurious origins such as geheugenvannederland.nl (Memories of the Netherlands), a Dutch national archive which does provide moderate high resolution Zoomify images of some artworks but certainly not these high resolution images. Now of course one can turn a blind eye to the origin of these images and assume good faith. But the trouble is that they have invariably been tinkered with by the uploaders, lightened or warmed, and even cropped, to their personal satisfaction, and that's when it becomes problematic. But I'm afraid I do think this isn't the place to carry on this debate. I really do wonder that the community can be satisfied with showcasing an image whose source simply can't be verified. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 07:54, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Coat of Many Colours: The images from Google Art Project are almost always too dark. I imagine they are trying to avoid specular highlights on the paint texture/cracks at all costs (which is only an issue for extremely high resolution images). Unfortunately, the cost is a dark, drab image that rarely does justice to the actual painting. It's like touring a museum with the lights off. Kaldari (talk) 05:53, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 10:19, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The ruins of Fountains Abbey, a former Cistercian monastary in Yorkshire, England.
Reason
It's an interesting and aesthetic view of the ruins of Fountains Abbey.
Articles in which this image appears
Fountains Abbey, Cistercian architecture, Cistercians, Abbeys Amble, Henry Murdac, History of Yorkshire, Grade I listed buildings in Harrogate (borough) and 6 more lists.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
User:Diliff
Let me reword that a bit. As usual, Diliff's photography is superb, but the exposure does seem to leave the image flat and without dimension. The focus is sharp and one can see every detail and every separate brick, but its the lighting in this scene that seems to cause the eye to try to grasp hold of something for direction. The cloudy conditions seem to have detracted from the over all look and feel of this one.--Mark Miller (talk) 18:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I wouldn't go so far as to call this a tourist photo, but I agree that it seems a bit... drab. That being said, this is a fantastic image: tack sharp, well exposed, and pretty well composed (though I feel another 250px on either side would have balanced the image a bit better). Cutting a bit from the top and bottom may work as well. If we get a better image, we can delist it. For now, this is pretty much perfect for its purpose. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose- The composition is a bit boring, the object looks strangely far away. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 17:07, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per other opposers and on the nitpicking side, haloings going on around the trees + double leaves, probably as a result of exposures blending (?). - Blieusong (talk) 20:17, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm happy to withdraw this one given the feedback. I thought the lighting was dramatic rather than flat, but I can appreciate that perhaps the composition could be improved. I was trying to get as far back as possible to get the whole structure in (actually it's even much bigger than this but really only an aerial view would show it better). Blieusong, as for the double leaves, you're right. I thought I had cropped that out of the frame but I guess not. And indeed it is an exposure blend to avoid the sky being overexposed. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 16:48, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:25, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Reason
These images all contribute to a varied and comprehensive illustration of the interior of the cathedral. All are high quality individually, and although they may not all have the necessary 'wow factor' on their own, I think they do as a set.
Articles in which this image appears
Wells Cathedral
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator
User:Diliff

Promoted File:Wells Cathedral Nave 1, Somerset, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:Wells Cathedral Stairs to Chapter House, Somerset, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:Wells Cathedral Chapter House, Somerset, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:Wells Cathedral Arches, Somerset, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:Wells Cathedral Lady Chapel, Somerset, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:Wells Cathedral Organ, Somerset, UK - Diliff.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:46, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Former NASA astronaut Sunita Williams, She holds the records for longest single space flight by a woman (195 days), total spacewalks by a woman (seven), and most spacewalk time for a woman (50 hours, 40 minutes).
Reason
good quality, high EV
Articles in which this image appears
Sunita Williams, List of female astronauts, List of spacewalkers and more
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Science and engineering
Creator
NASA

Promoted File:Sunita Williams.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 17:31, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A pair of Mandarin ducks at Martin Mere, Lancashire, UK; males are larger than females and have considerably brighter plumage
Reason
FP on commons, lead image in the bird article, can't think of a better way to illustrate sexual dimorphism
Articles in which this image appears
Mandarin duck, sexual dimorphism
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Animals/Birds
Creator
Francis C. Franklin

Promoted File:Pair of mandarin ducks.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:24, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalThe Death of Chatterton by Henry Wallis, Tate version
Reason
One of the most seminal paintings of all time by a great unacknowledged master. It shows the tragic results loosed upon us when true genius is suppressed by rude and disruptive elements. A lesson for us all.
Articles in which this image appears
The Death of Chatterton, Henry Wallis, Thomas Chatterton
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Henry Wallis

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 07:21, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalMahmūd Ahmadinezhād is an Iranian politician who was the sixth President of Iran from 2005 to 2013. He was also the main political leader of the Alliance of Builders of Islamic Iran, a coalition of conservative political groups in the country.
Reason
Good composition and very good encyclopedic value.
Articles in which this image appears
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
Daniella Zalcman from New York City, USA. Website http://dan.iella.net/

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 09:18, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalStephanie Wilson is an American engineer and a NASA astronaut who first flew into space on board the Space Shuttle mission STS-121. This portrait is from 1997.
Reason
High quality image of a notable individual. I think it's a bit better composed then a lot of the official portraits from NASA
Articles in which this image appears
Stephanie Wilson, List of black astronauts, List of female astronauts
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Science and engineering
Creator
NASA; light restoration by Chris Woodrich

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:52, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalRed Skelton in 1960
Alt Rebalanced, possibly less accurate.
Reason
High-res picture of a notable entertainer. Copyright seems to check out, though if there's any problems, please tell me.
Articles in which this image appears
Red Skelton
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/People/Entertainment
Creator
Unknown photographer, restoration by Adam Cuerden
  • Support either as nominatorAdam Cuerden (talk) 21:30, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Great expression — a human Daffy Duck. Sca (talk) 22:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Fantastic image, glad to see the LOC had it. Question though: do you think this could use a bit more contrast? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:24, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Contrast issues. If this can be corrected with a different version I could support. Loved Red Skelton as a kid and still have fond memories of lying in front of the council TV in my PJs eating TV dinners. Yeah...it was good to be a kid back then.--Mark Miller (talk) 20:59, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not at all convinced this should have more contrast - pictures from this period were often relatively low contrast, as far as I'm aware. Now, I could be wrong, and, if you have evidence I am, I'm happy to change it, but I'm worried it's all too easy to make everything fit modern sensibilities, particualrly when the image looks extremely good when not being seen as a tiny thumbnail against a pure white background. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:13, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either version - SagaciousPhil - Chat 18:01, 6 August 2014 (UTC)edited to support either 08:28, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose current version per Mark. We do have an obligation to make things reasonably screen-viewable. I don't think it looks any less wonderful if you stretch the histogram out a bit. Samsara (FA  FP) 04:51, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suppose, if two people who know photography suggest something, you should at least try an alternative. I've uploaded one. I may be overreacting from one too many people seeing one of my restorations of sepia toned images, and immediately desaturating it and suggesting it as an alt, which makes you somewhat resistant. That may be an overreaction in this case, given photographic prints' contrast can be adjusted readily by changing development time from the negative. Armbrust, can we give this a day to get people's responses to the alt? Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:01, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support v. 2. I wonder if it mightn't be possible to leave a note in the file description that the new version is optimised for screen viewing and the earlier one may better reflect the contrast in the original copy - something like that? Samsara (FA  FP) 06:22, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • That might be best. Though it does look good to have white shirts fairly white, and eyes white, and so on. This is why I prefer working from my scans. If I have questions, I pick up the book, look at it in a good light, and adjust. Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:30, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support v.2 - I can support this version.--Mark Miller (talk) 06:32, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment — I can go with either one, but honestly I prefer the original, which looks more natural to me. In the alt., there's a sort of burned-out area on subject's left cheek. Sca (talk) 13:04, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Red Skelton 1960 rebalance.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:31, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The Hubble Ultra-Deep Field (HUDF) is an image of a small region of space in the constellation Fornax, composited from Hubble Space Telescope data accumulated over a period from September 24, 2003, through to January 16, 2004. On June 3, 2014, NASA released the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field image composed of, for the first time, the full range of ultraviolet to near-infrared light.
Reason
High quality, absolutely astounding in regards to the amount of detail. Complements the FP File:Hubble ultra deep field high rez edit1.jpg very well.
Articles in which this image appears
Hubble Ultra-Deep Field +4
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking out
Creator
NASA, ESA, H. Teplitz and M. Rafelski (IPAC/Caltech), A. Koekemoer (STScI), R. Windhorst (Arizona State University), and Z. Levay (STScI)

Promoted File:NASA-HS201427a-HubbleUltraDeepField2014-20140603.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 01:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Diagram of the commissures, connectives, ganglia, and principal nerves of an adult giant scallop, Placopecten magellanicus. Anterior view, slightly turned, scallop opened.
Reason
SVG diagram is freely licensed, is of high technical quality, has been purged of rasters, and represents the highest quality image of its subject that has likely every been created.
Articles in which this image appears
Scallop, Placopecten magellanicus
FP category for this image
wp:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator
KDS444

Artist's commentary: Image is based closely on a 1906 drawing by a biologist named Gilman Drew (source provided on image page on Commons). Drew's version was a complicated unshaded line drawing and very difficult to interpret. I have recreated Drew's image with minor corrections and have added color to facilitate interpretation. If the final test is, "Does this image look like it could have come from the pages of Science, I finally feel I can say, "Yes."

Also note: as the arrangement of nerves within scallops is highly regular, this image can stand as a definitive neural diagram of scallops generally.

Nominated through my Wikipedia account of an image uploaded through my Commons account. (KDS4444=KDS444)

  • I have now added a "sub-diagram" of the scallop's shells to help orient the viewer. It was a bit of a rush job-- I am now down to the wire, but I hope it meets people's approval. KDS4444Talk 14:39, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks a lot for making the effort, but I'm not quite convinced about the new composition. (The big black arrow seems rather distracting.) I'd be okay with having the subdiagram as a thumbnail in the description page, but I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the diagram. In particular, I keep seeing the anterior and posterior sections of the circumpallial nerve in reversed positions, probably because the posterior section appears much thicker than the anterior. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:24, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paul_012, where were you when I started working on this diagram? You are absolutely correct, the nerves did appear counterintuitively thick-- I have now reversed this problem, so the thicker part of the circumpallial is the anterior portion and the thinner is the posterior (I even applied this style to the little "flip" the nerve takes at its dorsal anterior "commissure" so it now "pokes back" slightly at the viewer). Also removed big black arrow (which was a bit distracting, I agree). Time for me to stop messin' with it. Thank you! KDS4444Talk 11:49, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Scallop Neurological Diagram.svg --The herald 12:49, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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Reason
Great quality and EV
Articles in which this image appears
Navya Nair
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment
Creator
Rahul R Nair

Not Promoted -- — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:30, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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Original – Three pence issued by the Bank of North America 6 August 1789. Printed by Benjamin Franklin Bache on marbled paper obtained by Benjamin Franklin during his tenure as Minister Plenipotentiary to France.
Reason
High quality, high EV, historical
Articles in which this image appears
Bank of North America
FP category for this image
Currency
Creator
Bank of North America (for Province of Pennsylvania); printed by Benjamin Franklin Bache
Image by Godot13.

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 20:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A large sample of glassy carbon with a weight ca. 570 g, additional a 1 cm3 graphite cube for comparison
Reason
a good image with a very good view of the glassy properties of the glassy carbon
Articles in which this image appears
Glassy_carbon, Carbon, Allotropes_of_carbon
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/Sciences/Materials_science
Creator
Alchemist-hp

Promoted File:Glassy carbon and a 1cm3 graphite cube HP68-79.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 20:20, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Reason
All four images are interesting and very detailed views of Hereford Cathedral's nave, choir and lady chapel respectively. I think the view of the choir is particularly beautiful.
Articles in which this image appears
Hereford Cathedral
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Interiors
Creator
User:Diliff
  • Support as nominatorÐiliff «» (Talk) 21:30, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • When I hear Herford, I think SAS... but that's from being a Tom Clancy fan Comment - The nave, looking east, seems to lean outwards on the lefthand side (my issue here). There's a bit of warping near the edges, but considering the apparent angle that's okay (and it's only really distracting when you look at the heads on the wall). Is the actual church not straight? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:49, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's rare for these churches to be perfectly straight and the columns are of the Norman era; it's fundamentally a 12th century building, although various ruins and other disasters make it a bit of a mishmash of styles. I'm not sure what you mean by the nave looking east seeming to lean outwards though. Do you mean the columns or the walls behind the columns? The columns appear to bulge ever so slightly in the middle, but fundamentally appear straight to me (no significant lean). Did you measure the lean or was it just a visual perception of lean? Ðiliff «» (Talk) 07:59, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • No, not measured. I think the appearance of a lean in the thumbnail is coming from the contrast between how three and a third panes of glass are visible in the left side whereas only three (and a tenth, if I'm feeling generous) are visible on the right; were you perhaps slightly off center? This may also be the lack of contrast between the white windows and grey columns/walls. That being said, if there is lean it's negligible at full size (measuring it, I see the bulge, but no real lean) and the technical quality on all of the images is up to your usual standard. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:34, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • These inconsistencies in the symmetry are a continual bane of my work. Sometimes, yes, it's because I wasn't quite centred properly, sometimes it's because the building itself, or the seating in the nave, etc is not centred properly. It only takes a few centimetres off-centre to really mess with the symmetry, particularly because the wider the view, the more prominent it becomes. Sometimes the columns themselves are not precisely aligned or are staggered on each side, and it could be the case in this image (or it could be that the window is not aligned with its opposite). Another frustrating thing is that the nave and choir/presbytery/chancel are often not along exactly the same axis. I just got back from part II of my Cathedrals project (working on the photos currently) and there were some great examples of this. You would expect to be able to look down the aisle of the nave and straight through the middle to the end of the cathedral, but quite often they deviate slightly, either angled away or at the same angle as the nave but off centred. I actually mentioned it to one of the volunteer guides at a cathedral and she, with a twinkle in her eye, said that it is usually explained as representing the figure of Christ on the cross (as most cathedrals are cross-shaped when seen from above), slumped to one side! I suggested back to her that it could be a convenient excuse for poor surveying and she agreed. Anyway, I digress, but perfect symmetry is usually little more than an ideal. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:14, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support set. Another great church interior. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:34, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support set. A fantasy scenery. Brandmeistertalk 09:01, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I didn't check them all in detail, but I think the processing needs to be toned down here, especially since EV wins over anything else here. It really has a strong "HDRish" signature, and I've checked that the cathedral doesn't necessarily look like that. The choir, which can be seen on the "nave looking east" and eponym pictures doesn't look consistent ; do I miss something? - Blieusong (talk) 18:00, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think maybe you are missing something because I don't think it does look particularly HDRish. I mean, it is HDR, but doesn't look like typical overdone HDR renderings IMO. It's hard to compare directly to other images because these cathedrals look very different depending on the lighting conditions (direction and angle of sunlight, which lights are turned on etc). But here is an image of the nave, and I think it looks extremely similar. The only significant difference is that the choir lights are not turned on in my image. Regarding the inconsistent look of the choir between the nave shot and the choir image, I'm not sure. I don't think it's related to the processing though. I suspect that they have turned on the choir lighting between the nave shot and the choir shot, which has changed the white balance requirements. When there is a strong orange incandescent lighting, I usually reduce the white balance colour temperature so that it isn't so overwhelmingly orange. This has the effect of making the ambient light more blue. So basically, I think the difference is mainly due to the lighting changes and then the white balance changes to compensate for this. I haven't processed this image any differently to all the others. Yes, that doesn't mean that processing couldn't end up being too strong, but I look at these images and I don't think they misrepresent. I could go back and find the middle exposures and stitch it again using them and see if it ends up looking like the HDR version (but obviously with darker shadows and blown highlights) if that would help. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 20:54, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • OK, here's the completely unprocessed, middle exposure stitch. As I said, the only adjustment that was made in Lightroom was the white balance adjustment of the RAW files prior to export. Everything else is 100% defaults, including linear tone curve (most people have medium contrast but I prefer to use linear for my tone mapping) for a slightly flatter contrast. I don't think it looks that different to the image on Wikipedia to be honest. It's slightly more vivid (which I think is mainly because the overexposed areas are recovered and therefore appear to have more saturation), there's a bit more contrast and there's more detail in the shadows as you would expect. If I could give myself any criticism over this image, it might be the slightly overly saturated blue reflection on the right side of the choir stalls which is the result of the mixed lighting and the white balance compromise, but other than that, it's got the same tonality IMO. Your thoughts? Ðiliff «» (Talk) 21:32, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'm at work now, so this is a quick check, but two things : you're probably right that the inconsistency comes from the lights turned on between shots ; and the less processed shot looks much better IMO because of less saturation, but mainly because of less "clarity LR slider" effect (that HDRish thing I meant). I would offset WB towards warmer side as well to make up for the blue light on the sides, but maybe it just looked like that right then. You know better than me ;) I'll have a more careful look at it tonight if you still mind. - Blieusong (talk) 07:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
          • I hadn't touched the clarity slider (but that isn't really the same thing as HDR, they both play with local contrast but not necessarily in the same way as Photomatix or similar). What you're describing is probably just a general boost in contrast (which as Colin pointed out in another nomination, also increases saturation as a by-product). I tried warming up the WB but it didn't work at all (which is probably why I didn't use it originally), it just washed out the colours and gave it an unpleasant yellow cast. What I've done instead is reduced the saturation of the blues and darkened the choir stalls. I think this has improved things. I've uploaded this over the top of the existing image. It hasn't fundamentally changed the tonality though, so you might still have an issue with that. But to be honest, I don't, and don't really want to change it too much, I think the single exposure stitch looks too flat. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:54, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
            • Yes, I really meant it has a similar effect as the Clarity slider (which seems to increase contrast only on the mid tones). Understand you don't want to alter it. I still think it's behind the "too HDRish" line (as least as much as the nom on Commons you comment on), see [1] for comparison. - Blieusong (talk) 17:43, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
              • My issue with the nom on Commons (here's the link for others who are trying to follow) isn't simply that it was 'too much HDR', it was the more about the method he was using to processing it. The tonality is completely different to mine. That Hereford Cathedral image that you linked to isn't nearly as bad as some of them and although I would say it's slightly too bright, I probably wouldn't oppose that one. But his HDR processing is very inconsistent. Some of them aren't too bad (although the stained glass is almost always a pale blue and with a sort of halo softness around it, probably due to coma from the lens I guess), but some of them are just really not nice. The trouble with HDR is that it's really hard to explain in words why something looks good or doesn't. If you can't see the difference in tonality between my images and his, well.. I can't explain it, but I see it. :-) Maybe you see something with my images that I don't see. Anyway, I don't want this discussion to be about his photography as it's a bit inappropriate to be criticising them in response to your critique of mine! Ðiliff «» (Talk) 23:40, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
                • I don't think you're personally aiming at author, so it's fine (in my view anyways). Yes, it's a very difficult thing to explain, especially in a language which I'm not native with... ;) I do also HDR, so I have an idea of what the signature of overdone HDR is, but can't really explain either. For the sake of EV, maybe a good practice to introduce would be to show a processed picture side by side with an unprocessed one (taken with very neutral setting) for future noms. - Blieusong (talk) 10:48, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
                  • Your English is very close to native. I never have any problem understanding you, although occasionally I can see that you (along with most other non-English speakers) use words that would be considered correct but unusual to native English speakers. ;-) I don't think it's really a good idea to do a side by side comparison with unprocessed images though. As well as being extremely time-consuming to do for every image I create, there is a slight bad faith element to it, that anyone would have to continually justify their artistic and technical choices and prove that they aren't misrepresenting a scene. I'm happy to show my Lightroom settings or an unprocessed version of my image when I feel it's important for the discussion (such as here), but I'm not prepared to do that for every image to preempt assertions that my photos are not representative. In any case, unprocessed images are often not representative either, they're just a baseline to compare changes to. It is usually the case that processed images are actually more accurate in terms of representing what the eye sees (I should add some caveats though: When processed by someone who intends to represent a scene accurately, and who has an understanding of how to do so!). Ðiliff «» (Talk) 12:05, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
                    • Thank you. It's a bit easier when writing (Google translate is my friend ;)). Yes after a second thought, I think it's not necessary, and this can be done on per case basis when needed (as you did here). Also, "overdone HDR" being a rather subjective issue, it's resolved by this very voting process. I think it's slightly overdone here, other reviewers don't think so. I'm fine with that. btw I agree that an unprocessed picture may not be representative, and that non HDR can be overcooked as well. As you mentionned the unprocessed pic would only serve as a reference, which I think helps a lot to tell if one went too far or not. Enough digressing from me... - Blieusong (talk) 12:04, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
                      • I always welcome your comments and have a lot of respect for them, even if you are often more critical than most. I appreciate that. Yes, it seems that others don't agree that it's overdone, but with so few voters on the English FPC, it's difficult to know for sure. As it stands now, it will fail to be promoted, not because of your oppose vote but because of insufficient votes from everyone else! Ðiliff «» (Talk) 14:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC) [reply]
                        • I consider a duty to be critical and demanding, this is FPC after all ;) and it shouldn't end up like something à la Facebook where reviewers would only raise their thumb up. But I hope I don't have bad faith. Also, you are greatly responsible for the bar set so high! I don't know the promotion thresholds on en:FPC, but maybe they should be lowered down given the decline of contributors on Wikipedia in general. - Blieusong (talk) 21:17, 11 August 2014 (UTC) [reply]
  • Do they? The term you're looking for is saturated, I think. Brightness refers to the luminosity. I haven't adjusted the colours except in the choir image, where I actually reduced the saturation. I think that overall, the colours are largely quite muted to be honest. Most of the interior is grey stone. There is some yellowy light coming in from the stained glass windows in the nave photos. Really the only particularly saturated colours are in the choir image, where the orangy incandescent lights are pointing upwards at the ceiling. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 17:22, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not that I'm discounting what Blieusong has said (although I still disagree about the extent of the HDRness) but I wondered if that discussion would cloud other people's opinion on the matter. The processing used in these images is basically exactly the same as that used in all my recent interior images (which are virtually all HDR). I appreciate that it would be useful to know that it is HDR, but on the other hand, most people don't explain all the other little processing adjustments that they apply to an image... Why is HDR the exception? Hypothetically, if tomorrow, Nikon or Canon release a new camera with 25 stops of dynamic range (most modern DSLRs only have about 12 stops), then we will essentially have a camera that will output what constitutes HDR today. I'm only using that as an example to explain that there isn't anything really magical about HDR (although sometimes, the results do look about otherworldly). HDR can be subtle and it can be garish, depending on how it is used. I happen to think that my images are at the subtle end of the scale, so that's why I'm loathe to simply define my images as HDR when there is such a stigma attached to the word from poor attempts by people in the past. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 19:58, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wrt the consistent processing, I personally found out that a very same recipe can yield both realistic and kitsch results depending on raw material. This may explain I'm opposing here while I found most of your other interiors very good. Or It's me, but there's nothing one can do then. - Blieusong (talk) 18:49, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 21:32, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A view of Calton Hill from the Salisbury Crags in Edinburgh, Scotland. The hill includes (left to right): the Old Observatory House, the Nelson Monument, the City Observatory, and the National Monument. The Firth of Forth is the river in the background.
Reason
Very encyclopedic image of a very busy hilltop. Well composed, good technical quality.
Articles in which this image appears
Calton Hill, National Monument of Scotland, Nelson Monument, Edinburgh
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Urban, I guess
Creator
Saffron Blaze
  • Support as nominator –  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:12, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support One of the classic sights of Edinburgh. Maybe a smidgen on the dark side, though. - I live in Edinburgh, and it's a pretty familiar sight. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:17, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral. For what is fundamentally a landscape image, I find the lighting quite unappealing, and as Adam Cuerden said, it's a little dark. It also seems like the colour balance is a little confused too, as the sun seems quite low on the horizon but the tint is a little too cool. All that would be needed to improve on this image is to revisit when the lighting is more conducive, so I'm not sure I can support it when it's so easily reproducible in a more aesthetic way. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 08:11, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I like it. Nice light. --Alchemist-hp (talk) 07:05, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose It's a worthy subject, but this is not a good capture of it. It is rather dark and also rather lacking in fine detail. In a daylight landscape image at a location that allows for tripod use, I find this difficult to explain away. As a minor quibble, the chosen angle has also made for a rather messy separation of foreground and background. I think this could be improved. Samsara (FA  FP) 20:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Seems just a bit on the dark side, but I like the perspective and composition (EV).--Godot13 (talk) 02:29, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 03:54, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Three examples of modern color halftoning with CMYK separations. From left to right: The cyan separation, the magenta separation, the yellow separation, the black separation, the combined halftone pattern and finally how the human eye would observe the combined halftone pattern from a sufficient distance.
Reason
A very useful diagram illustrating roughly how color halftoning works.
Articles in which this image appears
Halftone, CMYK color model (just added)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
Creator
Original by Slippens; SVG by Pbroks13
  • Depending on laptop settings, it might be off by a very small margin, hence "approximately". It's possible to verify, though a bit difficult. On my laptop, I had to open the image at minimum size, downsize it in Firefox (CTRL + - ), then stand on the other side of the room. It looked the same to me. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:04, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, mapping an RGB display to CMYK colours is a whole different ball game. None of the separation illustrations are proper CMYK colours (arguably with the exception of K), and they only work as an approximation and because our eyes don't resolve the individual RGB elements. By that token all the panels should have the same "approximately equal" caveat. I think the diagram only works at all if we assume that everything is through the same RGB "filter" that shows us the best approximation on our RGB screens of the actual process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.125.78 (talk) 00:16, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you're getting a bit too far. The "approx equals" sign just mean that it looks like that from far enough, but it's not really like that when looked at closely. No fussy RGB conversion or other here: this doesn't detract us from understanding the actual process. - Blieusong (talk) 21:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • You seem to have misunderstood. I'm not "getting a bit too far"; in fact I was actually countering the suggestion by someone else that the use of the symbol was to do with monitor settings. I don't understand your comment "no fussy RGB conversion". Clearly there is an RGB conversion. 86.190.237.29 (talk) 00:34, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I might have misunderstood. Anyways, I just meant the conversion doesn't matter and that understanding this diagram is not affected. Print it or whatever and it's still the same meaning. - Blieusong (talk) 18:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support Clear, clean. I don't think it was necessary to have the operators overlapping the squares, but they don't really distract either. A little technical issue: the PNG renderings don't seem to come from the SVG, but from an enlarged bitmapped version of it. - Blieusong (talk) 11:50, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Halftoningcolor.svg --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:15, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Princess Aswathy Thirunal Gowri Lakshmi Bayi
Reason
A rare free picture of the popular writer. Good composition and very good encyclopedic value.
Articles in which this image appears
Aswathi Thirunal Gowri Lakshmi Bayi
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Artists and writers
Creator
Augustus Binu

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 06:28, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A RadioShack-brand cassette recorder, with built-in microphone.
Reason
Good quality, encyclopedic image
Articles in which this image appears
Tape recorder, Cassette deck, RadioShack, Compact Cassette
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Engineering and technology/Electronics
Creator
Evan-Amos (very small edit by Crisco 1492)

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 05:10, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Portrait of Mrs. Richard Brinsley Sheridan (painting) done by a grand master
NGA copy Holy crap, the National Gallery of Art has an "Open Access Images" project that are "free of charge for download and use". You have to register, but the registration is free and easy. Methinks we will be seeing a lot of new images from this source... Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reason
Quality image with good E.V. - the colours are very near the original colours of the artwork
Articles in which this image appears
Mrs. Richard Brinsley Sheridan (painting)
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Thomas Gainsborough
  • Support either as nominatorSagaciousPhil - Chat 10:31, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Great painting, but there's issues with the reproduction - lots of artefacts, and, as it's a Yorck Project scan, it's highly likely the colours are off. I'd like to see this painting featured, but we'll need a better photo. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:35, 7 August 2014 (UTC) Oppose original, support NGA copy. Just look at it: It's gorgeous, and the NGA wants them to be used. (And now you see why we don't tend to promote Yorck Project copies at FPC) Adam Cuerden (talk) 06:43, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ace, brilliant - thank you, Adam! Do I need to change my above support to the NGA version? SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:41, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Probably wouldn't hurt, but I think Armbrust can figure it out. =) Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:30, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding Adam's recent enthusiasm for the NGA high resolution pics, they've been out for more than a year now and were highly publicised at the time [2]. I for one have been uploading their images to Commons, and I assume [redacted]'s recent Fragonard image came from the same source. There are 25,000 such images and it raises a point I've made before - these high resolution are now two a penny (the Prado, the Rijks and many others are similar examples of museums now offering high resolution images, even Getty offers them). Are we really going to Feature them all? Does it really depend just on the personal whims of editors? What we really are in some need of here is attention to the same kinds of details regarding fidelity and scholarship we see amongst the photographers regarding technical issues. At the moment that's not happening. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 06:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This is FP, not FA. The article doesn't need to be perfect for the picture to be featured. Adam Cuerden (talk) 01:55, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The reductio of that would be that it doesn't need an article at all, or at best merely a stub. The issue isn't that the article is not perfect, but that's there's actually nothing to set the Featured Picture in any kind of context to explain its EV. Thus someone clicking though our portfolio of Featured Pictures and wondering why this rather humdrum painting is Featured, is in fact none the wiser on going to its linked articles. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 07:13, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:Thomas Gainsborough - Mrs. Richard Brinsley Sheridan .jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 10:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalThe Washington Family by Edward Savage is a life-sized group portrait of George Washington, Martha Washington, two of her grandchildren, and an enslaved servant.
Reason
High quality image about a notable painting = high EV.
Articles in which this image appears
The Washington Family (most EV), George Washington, Martha Washington, +7 others
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Edward Savage

Promoted File:Edward Savage - The Washington Family - Google Art Project.jpg ----Mdann52talk to me! 15:20, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A hoodoo in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, Utah, United States.
Reason
Interesting subject, decent angle (even though there's at least one hoodoo FP already).
Articles in which this image appears
Hoodoo (geology), Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument
FP category for this image
Places/Landscapes
Creator
Ciar

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 22:55, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalSoldiers Playing Cards and Dice (The Cheats), a c. 1618/1620 work by Valentin de Boulogne
Reason
I love the dynamicism of this painting, the wonderful expressions, the fluid positioning, and that the most armoured of the five is also the one that looks the most timid.
Articles in which this image appears
Valentin de Boulogne; might be useful in some gambling articles.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Valentin de Boulogne

Promoted File:Valentin de Boulogne - Soldiers Playing Cards and Dice (The Cheats).jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 12:01, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalYokugo no onna, a full-colour Shin-hanga woodblock print of a Japanese woman after a bath, by Goyō Hashiguchi (1880–1921)
Reason
Beautiful image by a representative artist of the Shin-hanga movement of woodblock printing in Japan in the 20th century.
Articles in which this image appears
Goyō Hashiguchi, Shin-hanga
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/East Asian art
Creator
Goyō Hashiguchi

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 12:05, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Reason
High quality, good EV, encyclopedic angle for the portraytal of the bridge
Articles in which this image appears
Strandherd-Armstrong Bridge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Saffron Blaze

Promoted File:Strandherd-Armstrong Bridge.jpeg --Armbrust The Homunculus 16:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalSMS Gazelle
Reason
Part of a series of lithographs of ships from the Imperial German Navy, admittedly my least-favourite, but given it's the lead image for two good articles and a featured artice, it has EV, at least
Articles in which this image appears
SMS Gazelle, Gazelle-class cruiser, List of light cruisers of Germany, etc.
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Vehicles/Water
Creator
Hugo Graf (1844-1914) [Scan by commons:User:Mr.Nostalgic, restoration by Adam Cuerden.]
  • Support for its EV (even though I don't like the garish red hull paint), since there apparently are no others of the 10-ship Gazelle class in this series by Hugo Graf. Would prefer no border. Sca (talk) 17:59, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:S.M. kleiner kreuzer Gazelle - restoration.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 11:01, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Photo taken by Rogelio Bernal Andreo in October 2010 of the Orion constellation showing the surrounding nebulas of the Orion Molecular Cloud complex. Also captured is the red supergiant Betelgeuse (top left) and the famous belt of Orion composed of the OB stars Altitak, Alnilam and Mintaka. To the bottom right can be found the star Rigel. The red crescent shape is Barnard's Loop.
Reason
High quality non-NASA image. First nomination failed because of low resolution problems, which are now solved.
Articles in which this image appears
Betelgeuse, Orion's Belt, Orion (constellation), Orion Molecular Cloud Complex, Rogelio Bernal Andreo
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Space/Looking out
Creator
Rogelio Bernal Andreo

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 13:15, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – A 17th century print showing the baby Princess Kaguya shortly after being discovered inside the stalk of a glowing bamboo plant, near the beginning of the The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter
Reason
High resolution, attractive image.
Articles in which this image appears
The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, Japanese folktales
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/East Asian art and Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Literary illustrations both work
Creator
Unknown

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 05:59, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalWildebeest herd on migration following a few leading zebra in Maasai Mara, Kenya
Reason
A high resolution aerial image showing the extraordinary natural phenomenon of migration by Wildebeest in East Africa, used
Articles in which this image appears
Wildebeest, Maasai Mara
FP category for this image
Animals
Creator
T. R. Shankar Raman

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 14:07, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – The ColecoVision was a second-generation video game console created by the toy company Coleco. The system was popular before the crash of 1983, selling 2 million units by 1984.
Reason
Attractive product shot of an old (yet beloved) video game system.
Articles in which this image appears
ColecoVision +4
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Engineering and technology/Electronics
Creator
Evan Amos; very light edit by me.

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 14:32, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Reason
High quality, high EV (presented as a set). A complete denomination set of seven Series 1882 Gold certificates (only five are nominated for FP). There are two $5,000 and $10,000 notes known in other government institution collections. No high resolution image has ever been made available.
Note – The $100 and $1,000 images are already featured. They are part of this nomination only to be included in the set.
Original
A seven-note complete denomination set of Series 1882 United States Gold Certificate
Articles in which these images appear
Gold certificate (all), Large denominations of United States currency (4)
FP category for this image
Currency
Creator
Bureau of Engraving and Printing
From the National Numismatic Collection, National Museum of American History.
Images by Godot13.


Promoted File:US-$20-GC-1882-Fr-1177.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:US-$50-GC-1882-Fr-1195.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:US-$500-GC-1882-Fr-1216a.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:US-$5000-GC-1882-Fr-1221a.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Promoted File:US-$10000-GC-1882-Fr-1223a.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 04:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalMary Cassatt - Little Girl in a Blue Armchair, oil on canvas, 1878
Reason
Described by Germaine Greer as Mary Cassatt's "first real stunner". The diagonal composition and cropping after the Japanism fashion of the time were heavily influenced by Edgar Degas, venerated by Cassatt, who worked on the picture. The dog is a Brussels terrier, a breed that Cassat kept as companion all her life. This first one was purchased for her by Degas, who obtained it from his friend (and dog lover) Ludovic-Napoléon Lepic. Degas' curious painting of him as a flâneur has often been described as influenced by photography in its treatment of negative space, also a feature of Cassatt's painting. The image is amongst the 25,000 or so high resolution images made available last year for educational purposes by the National Gallery of Art, Washington
Articles in which this image appears
Little Girl in a Blue Armchair
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Mary Cassatt

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 11:13, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalJohn Hay, private secretary to, and biographer of Abraham Lincoln, Secretary of State under William McKinley and Theodore Roosevelt, and ambassador
Reason
A high-quality early-twentieth century portrait of a statesman, ambassador, and biographer. It's a little ways down the Hay article, but I think it adds a fair bit nonetheless. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Articles in which this image appears
John Hay et al.
FP category for this image
You could probably quibble as to which subcategory of "people", but I'd say Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/People/Political.
Creator
C. M. Gilbert, restored by Adam Cuerden

Promoted File:C.M. Gilbert. - John Hay, c. 1904.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:52, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalJohn Jellicoe, 1st Earl Jellicoe, Commander at the Battle of Jutland, First Sea Lord, Admiral of the Fleet, and °Governor-General of New Zealand
Reason
While a bit grainy, it's a fine picture of a notable person, from newspaper archives. And, yes, I should be working on other things, but they were taking ages so I switched to something simpler for a little bit. Plus, it's one of the core topics for WWI, and I want to support Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Operation Great War Centennial =)
Articles in which this image appears
John Jellicoe, 1st Earl Jellicoe, and as linked in description.
FP category for this image
While you could argue political for the New Zealand position, on the whole, I'd say Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/People/Military.
Creator
Bain News Service, restoration by Adam Cuerden

Promoted File:John Jellicoe, Admiral of the Fleet.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 00:37, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalVincent van Gogh, Self-portrait with pipe, 1886
Reason
I think it's very easy to over-emphasize the super-colourful van Gogh. This is a very good picture, it's subdued, it's relatively realistic, but it still has all the energy of van Gogh's style. It's very easy, with some artists to turn them into caricatures of themselves. So, to keep us a little more grounded, how about a very different self-portrait of van Gogh?
Articles in which this image appears
The Letters of Vincent van Gogh, Self-portraits by Vincent van Gogh, Cultural depictions of Vincent van Gogh, Van Gogh Museum, Vincent (opera), Vincent van Gogh chronology
FP category for this image
Let's put the relatively realistic depiction under Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Artists and writers.
Creator
Vincent van Gogh
Identification purposes is a valid use of an image of an artist. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:14, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm sure it is. But that is at the whim of editors, who are generally allowed their personal choices. But this not Crazy Vinnie as we and all our mums know him. We do all know the real Vincent with the bandaged ear and staring eyes. You are quite laudable in the reasons you give for featuring the portrait and as I say I support them, but in vain will the reader find any of that in the article links - that in a few of his earliest Paris portraits he seemed uncharacteristically in command of himself. Except he wasn't. Not really. He had come down from Antwerp where he had suffered a breakdown. His teeth were falling out and he was worried about his personal appearance. Within six months his self-portraits betray that familiar haunted look we know so well. For this portrait to have real EV that should be written up in the articles somewhere (and there's also the question of its technical brilliance that should be mentioned and set in the context of his very far from promising start as an artist). At the moment it's not, and that's why I'm opposing. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 12:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I share COMC's concerns, but also echo that this is a regretful oppose, as I really like the work. Perhaps if it was the lead image used for identification purposes in the main Vincent van Gogh article I'd support, but, unsurprisingly, a more famous and recognisable self-portrait is used. J Milburn (talk) 15:40, 17 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm somewhat inclined to make this the lead image on his article. The more famous work does a much poorer job at showing what Vincent looked like, as it's a lot more abstracted and loosely-composed, and it's probably not even the most famous (I'd say "Self-portrait with straw hat" is more commonly seen, and better composed). This portrait is far better for identification purposes. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree to a certain extent, but the lead image also serves the purpose of showing the artist's style- questions may be raised about the extent to which this one does that (I'm neutral on the issue). I'm going to have to keep my oppose for now, but if the image is stable as a lead image for a few months, I would probably be prepared to support then. J Milburn (talk) 16:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But should an identification portrait really showcase the artist's style? It could be argued that an identification portrait should have as little 'style' as possible, really, if it in any way detracts from the accuracy of the portrait. Would we use Pablo Picasso's self portrait to identify him? ;-) Ðiliff «» (Talk) 23:57, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I certainly have some sympathy for that view- I'm just reporting what I understand to be standard practice with painters. Whether or not we like the practice (I have no strong opinion, and see the merits of both sides) it's going to effect stability, and so we have to be aware of it. J Milburn (talk) 00:10, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: For the encyclopedic value alone and the fact that this already exists in multiple English Wikipedia articles. I personally think this is the better image for the Van Gogh article, but that not being the issue decided here at the moment, I vote support for this image. Fylbecatulous talk 17:18, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It is generally regarded as van Gogh's first self-portrait. The fact that it's not mentioned in the letters is the best indication it and a number of others at the same time date from the Paris period (the brothers having no cause to correspond as they were living together). It's an extremely accomplished portrait, surprisingly so when compared with the life studies he had made at the academy in Antwerp just the year before, but it is frankly rather pedestrian otherwise. He was dressing himself in city clothes at the time to stress his middle-class background, perhaps hoping to restart a conventional career as an art dealer. Marc Edo Tralbaut (his principal biographer) valorises F208a https://commons.wikimedia.orgview_image.php?q=Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/August-2014&sq=Qlik&lang=&file=File:Van_Gogh_-_Selbstbildnis_mit_dunklem_Filzhut.jpeg much more from this time, and in fact chose it at the dusk jacket picture of his biography, saying of it that Vincent has laid himself bare. And of course he's quite right. F208a is an absolutely magnificent self-portrait, incomparably better than F180 nominated here. Why don't you just try substituting F180 at the van Gogh article? I strongly suspect the long-suffering expert editors there will give you pretty short thrift for your trouble. 81.129.69.67 (talk) 22:02, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ugh. The Vincent Van Gogh article is full of the sort of people who'll change the lead image without warning, then hurl abuse at you if you don't like their undiscussed change, and insist you discuss your change, but not their shitty change. Seriously, I hate the current lead. I think it's easily the worst of Van Gogh's self-portraits, and the long-standing Self portrait with a straw hat lead image is far, far better. But only they have the right to undiscussed changes. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Naughty ... I don't edit there myself, but it's an excellent article. I think IP above has it about right. I'll try and get a better image for F208a, maybe add at a bit at Self-portraits by Vincent van Gogh, but that's a big topic. As for your nomination. I can understand your motives, but it's really not characteristic of his work, even his saai Dutch period. (CoMC abroad) 138.199.77.225 (talk) 07:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

'Withdraw I think I'm going off doing anything with van Gogh on Wikipedia. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:07, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • That's a shame, I was intending to support it (although obviously it would be better as lead if you could get that past the article cabal!). But I suppose getting two opposes makes it very difficult to recover from, as convention then dictates that you would need a further 6 support votes for it to clearly pass. And given the low participation levels at the moment, that's probably unlikely. *sigh* Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • As far as works of art, I think it quite possible that low levels of participation might well have something to do with getting nominations past any cabal that may or may not itself exist here, not to mention a certain bemusement as to what the project actually means for work of arts - I mean quite what the point can be. I do take umbrage at "recover from". So long as opposers give cogent reasons for their opposition, their input should be respected. It's a bit rich that photographers who will oppose on the basis of a single blemish cry fowl when the visual arts groupies stake a claim. We do know this painting F180 (imagine!) It's very derivative of work by John Peter Russell, whom van Gogh had met in Paris and had formed a friendship with. Perhaps you don't know it, but our Vinnie was a quite insufferable companion; anyone who did take him seriously for a while likely to be lauded and praised to the sky by him (same thing Gauguin, and you can notice the same sort of tendency in a certain class of Wikipedia editors it's worth adding I think). Really it's quite uncharacteristic of van Gogh. And there's no cabal at the van Gogh article. Just a group of enthusiasts defending their own against the world and their attack dogs. (CoMC) 138.199.75.144 (talk) 11:09, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you're being a bit sensitive. I'm not sure why you'd take umbrage at the words 'recover from', because it was used in terms of a successfully supported nomination requiring a significant change in the voting pattern, both in momentum shift, and in total supports votes required. The word 'recovery' would seem appropriate for this kind of turnaround. That's the context I used it in, so I don't understand how it could be controversial. I don't claim to be an expert on the artwork itself, but I don't think I necessarily need to be to have an opinion on how the image is used as for identification, because I believe the artist's style (as I mentioned earlier) is secondary to how faithful it is to his likeness. It may be not be representative of his broader work, but I don't think it needs to be in this context. I'm not, however, suggesting that I should barge in and make the change in the article single-handedly either, I'm deferring that judgement to those article editors involved. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 12:14, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • You did sign off with a *sigh*, which I take to be unwritten wikiquette code for *dick* ... There is policy or guidance somewhere to the effect that identification pics for artists should be self-portraits wherever possible. I should have thought that implies "representative" as well, but right it's open to debate. But F180 truelly is not representative. He had come to Paris, sick and undernourished from his deprivations the previous three years. He had grown a moustache to hide his unsightly broken teeth (he had had ten extracted in Antwerp) and was endeavouring to establish himself as a conventional artist (in truth his own artistic tastes were decidedly conventional, none of that impressionist nonsense for him thank you), going as far as to join an atelier (master-classes run by established artists). But he was ridiculed by his fellow-students, forced to seek company from foreigners like Russell. This self-portrait belongs to that period when he was trying to establish himself in a conventional way, a period lasting less than six months. I can't see it's a good choice for identification purposes, nor worth featuring for its EV. F208a a quite different proposition. But I can't find a good image of it. The Van Gogh museum is supposed to be the holder but I can't find a page for it, nor is there a Google image. That might well mean they're worried about its provenance (it was discovered in 1952 in the cellars of the Stedelijk, apparently stored there by Vincent's great-nephew Willem). I'll email the VG about it and if possible get an image and write it up in time. Best I can do genuinely constructive here. 138.199.64.26 (talk) 13:31, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you need to take a step back and stop reading into things so much. The *sigh* relates exclusively to the sentence that it follows; the lack of participation in FPC at the moment. It had nothing to do with any of the art politics (of which I'm not even involved!) that you seem to be so bristled by. In any case, I'd be interested to see this policy. But even if there is such a document, that doesn't mean that my opinion is overruled by the policy. We're all entitled to discuss and debate conventions as they apply to the subject in question because policy is not always right, and it doesn't always apply to all circumstances. I'm not convinced that a self-portrait is going to be more representative than a portrait by another artist, because we know very well that we as human beings are more biased towards our physical appearance, both negatively and positively, than we are to others generally, and may not necessarily portray ourselves as accurately as would be deemed necessary for an identification portrait on an encyclopaedia. I'm not saying there is no place on Wikipedia for self-portraits by any means, but I just don't think you could rightly argue that they should take precedence. If it is suggested somewhere, I would argue against it as an overarching policy. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 13:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Happy to take your word for it. I think I may have been guilty of misquoting the artist infobox template. You're quite right about discussing policy, but really this is not what's at issue here. There is currently a discussion about the lede image at the van Gogh article. I gather it was agreed to ring the changes from time to time. For myself I'd stick with the bandaged ear, the one from the Courtauld with a Japanese print in the background into the bargain Commons:File:VanGogh-self-portrait-with bandaged ear.jpg. The Courtauld is another museum currently making high resolution images available. I'll try and get a better, but pass on laying it on at van Gogh . 138.199.77.43 (talk) 14:20, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Articles which are unwelcoming to new editors are a real pain to try to do anything to improve, so I just don't think it's worth it. Particularly when the edit summaries include accusations of bad faith, just for suggesting a different change to the one made three days previously. [Anyway, if they want to ring the changes, why not just use a randomly selected lead image? It's trivial to code.] Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:05, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suspect the van Gogh article has had more of its fair share of new editors over the years. It's an extraordinary phenomenon this van Gogh thing. I often muse on it. He's just got to be the world's favourite painter, but he was such a total complete loser in life and god only knows what kind of a Wikipedia editor he would have made if it had been around in his time, though to be fair he kept his personal issues out of his letters. I have to confess if I was editing at van Gogh I would reverted your substitution with a request to take it to the Talk page. But you shouldn't have been made to feel unwelcome if that was so. Anyway I must sign off here. I'll be back, but perhaps not quite so frequently. I'll probably ignore most art work nominations unless I really feel moved to intervene. I do generally like the "own work" nominations though, always happy to support there. 138.199.73.37 (talk) 18:27, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • As an editor who has cast a vote here, I suppose I can have a stake in the matter. I have just commented on the article talk page: [[3]] to request a new discussion to gain current concessus for an image. There is decidedly a tone of article ownership there, which is one of my pet peeves. Fylbecatulous talk 13:53, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Although I do have an interest in art, I'm far from being an expert, so I don't often vote at Featured Picture nominations. I've read the entire discussion here, and I thought I'd add a few thoughts about possible reasons for lack of participation:

  • The use of abbreviations for terms that you all must understand, but may not be clear to newcomers, like "EV" and "VG"
  • Frequently jumping from topic to topic, from the merits of this particular portrait, to the appropriateness of the portrait, to the painter's life story, to the editing history of the article, to a speculation on the intention behind another commentator's word, to the availability of high resolution images, to threats to stop participating,... It would be nice if the discussion were a bit more focused and organized.
  • Including distracting emotional reactions and comments, and veiled and not-so-veiled criticisms of other editors:
  • you can notice the same sort of tendency in a certain class of Wikipedia editors
  • then hurl abuse at you if you don't like their undiscussed change, and insist you discuss your change, but not their shitty change
  • I do take umbrage at "recover from".
  • Using phrases such as "ring the changes" (I had never heard that expression before) and "cry fowl [sic]".
Just saying... Instead of learning something so that I might be able to participate in the future, I was totally confused. CorinneSD (talk) 18:36, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Points taken... however, I thought EV was a term used fairly commonly throughout Wikipedia, meaning 'encyclopaedic value'. It's also explained in the Featured Pictures Criteria. I'm not saying that every participant should have memorised the criteria or should be aware of every relevant acronym, but neither can it be said that it's secret code for something. You could always chime in and ask what the certain acronyms mean. We don't generally bite the newbie for asking a genuine question. The meaning of VG seemed fairly obvious in the discussion (to me, at least) to be the Van Gogh Museum, which had been mentioned by its full name in the previous sentence. Otherwise, yes, of course it would be nice if the discussion was more focused, but when there is some confusion about something, it rightly should be clarified through discussion... I noticed that the German Featured Pictures project has two separate sections in each nomination. One for the votes, and the other for 'discussion'. This would at least separate the two, and may be a better way of arranging the nominations, but I'm not sure it would necessarily keep things concise as you wished for. You mentioned some of the things that put you off participating, but how would you change FPC so that it is more inviting/informative for new participants? Most of the criticisms you had were directed towards the discussion itself and the criticisms made by individuals, rather than the process itself. Given that changing an individual's behaviour/demeanor is not necessarily without the responsibility of FPC, and we will probably always have some participants that are frustrated, angry or just discordant in nature, what could improve the things you mentioned above? Ðiliff «» (Talk) 19:39, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, perhaps more of an effort to make it clear what is being discussed at any one point in a long discussion. Perhaps an arbitrary section break now and then. Perhaps adding a question in bold like: Which is more important for the lead of a biographical article, that a painting be representative of a painter's work or that the painting depict the artist accurately? Perhaps making an effort not to go off on tangents. I'm sorry, I had not seen EV before. I figured out "the VG" meant "the Van Gogh Museum", but "the Van Gogh" or "the VG museum" wouldn't take much more time to type. Other than that, I really don't know. I would like to point out that something made Adam Cuerden not only withdraw his nomination but write, "I think I'm going off doing anything with van Gogh on Wikipedia", which is too bad. I don't know if that was only due to what he perceived was going on in the Van Gogh article, or not. CorinneSD (talk) 01:01, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 05:58, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Gustav Klimt - Portrait of Amalie Zuckerlandl - Belvedere
Reason
An unfinished portrait by Gustav Klimt dating from 1917-18 towards the end of his life. In his last period, Klimt was influenced by the rise of Fauvism. His paintings became more colourful and abstract in nature, and this unfinished work demonstrates his plan of execution. Otto Zuckerkandl was a distinguished surgeon. Amalie was a Christian who converted to Judaism to marry Zuckerlandl. The couple were divorced after the First World War. During the Second World War she and her daughter Nora were deported by the Nazis to the Bełżec extermination camp where they were murdered.
Articles in which this image appears
Facing the Modern: The Portrait in Vienna 1900, Otto Zuckerkandl
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Gustav Klimt
  • Yes, that's true. I did put in something about Fauvism in the exhibition article, but it got buried, and I think that's right about its EV. I'm contemplating providing some starts for Klimt's better known paintings, but it would mean forking out a couple of hundred pounds for his catalogue raissoné. Maybe at the New Year, but I also want to write up Piet Mondrian who comes into PD next year. (CoMC abroad) 138.199.77.225 (talk) 07:15, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:20, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – K. Babu
Reason
Good quality, composition and High EV.
Articles in which this image appears
K. Babu
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
Augustus Binu

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 19:14, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Obverse and reverse of a three pence note of colonial paper currency issued by the Province of Pennsylvania and printed by Benjamin Franklin in 1764.
Reason
High quality, high EV. Uncirculated example of an early American colonial bank note printed by Benjamin Franklin.
Articles in which this image appears
Early American currency, Benjamin Franklin
FP category for this image
Currency
Creator
Province of Pennsylvania, printed by Benjamin Franklin and David Hall
Image by Godot13

Promoted File:US-Colonial (PA-115)-Pennsylvania-18 Jun 1764.jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 05:18, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalCorpus Christi College is a constituent college of the University of Cambridge. The New Court was designed by William Wilkins and completed in 1827.
Reason
High quality, high EV image. Already featured on Commons.
Articles in which this image appears
Corpus Christi College, Cambridge
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
Diliff
I'm not sure whether it's an optical illusion or what, but almost the very first thing I notice every time I look at the photo is that doesn't seem straight. When I rotate the image slightly anticlockwise, the apparent tilt is corrected and the picture looks straight. Does it not appear tilted to anyone else? If not, then it must just be me. 217.44.214.6 (talk) 19:25, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the shadow and ivy is what I meant by the composition being off-balance. I do believe it is pretty much perfectly straight and centered. Jujutacular (talk) 13:47, 22 August 2014 (UTC)'[reply]

Promoted File:Corpus Christi College New Court, Cambridge, UK - Diliff.jpg ----Mdann52talk to me! 05:38, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Original – Vreten metro station, Stockholm
Reason
High quality and resolution images showing the plattform.
Articles in which this image appears
Vreten metro station
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture
Creator
Arild Vågen
Hey J Milburn,
This photo is used as an single images in many Wikipedias and VI at Commons. I think it gives more information (platform, train) than the other images. The station also has only one entry/exit to the plattform, and this picture is taken at the entrance/exit. The other photos are taken from the opposite side of the plattform, which gives a cleaner image but lower EV.
I dont think small amounts of noise is a problem for a very high resolution indoor shot of a subway station with strong contrast. It does not work with HDR here.--ArildV (talk) 09:48, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I made this the lead image as for me this is clearly the best quality and cleaned up the gallery. --ELEKHHT 04:31, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 12:30, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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OriginalAnousheh Ansari is an Iranian-American engineer and co-founder and chairwoman of Prodea Systems. On September 18, 2006, a few days after her 40th birthday, she became the first Iranian in space. Ansari was the fourth overall self-funded space tourist, and the first self-funded woman to fly to the International Space Station. Her memoir, My Dream of Stars, co-written with Homer Hickam, was published by Palgrave Macmillan in 2010.
Reason
High quality, EV, FP on Persian Wikipedia
Articles in which this image appears
Anousheh Ansari
FP category for this image
People
Creator
NASA

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 18:02, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



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Nominated diagram (as it appears in articles)
Signaling cascade in the nucleus accumbens that results in psychostimulant addiction
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This diagram depicts the signaling events in the brain's reward center that are induced by chronic high-dose exposure to psychostimulants that increase the concentration of synaptic dopamine, like amphetamine, methamphetamine, and phenethylamine. Following presynaptic dopamine and glutamate co-release by such psychostimulants,[1][2] postsynaptic receptors for these neurotransmitters trigger internal signaling events through a cAMP-dependent pathway and a calcium-dependent pathway that ultimately result in increased CREB phosphorylation.[1][3][4] Phosphorylated CREB increases levels of ΔFosB, which in turn represses the c-Fos gene with the help of corepressors;[1][5][6] c-Fos repression acts as a molecular switch that enables the accumulation of ΔFosB in the neuron.[7] A highly stable (phosphorylated) form of ΔFosB, one that persists in neurons for 1–2 months, slowly accumulates following repeated high-dose exposure to stimulants through this process.[5][6] ΔFosB functions as "one of the master control proteins" that produces addiction-related structural changes in the brain, and upon sufficient accumulation, with the help of its downstream targets (e.g., nuclear factor kappa B), it induces an addictive state.[5][6]

References

  1. ^ a b c Renthal W, Nestler EJ (September 2009). "Chromatin regulation in drug addiction and depression". Dialogues in Clinical Neuroscience. 11 (3): 257–268. doi:10.31887/DCNS.2009.11.3/wrenthal. PMC 2834246. PMID 19877494. [Psychostimulants] increase cAMP levels in striatum, which activates protein kinase A (PKA) and leads to phosphorylation of its targets. This includes the cAMP response element binding protein (CREB), the phosphorylation of which induces its association with the histone acetyltransferase, CREB binding protein (CBP) to acetylate histones and facilitate gene activation. This is known to occur on many genes including fosB and c-fos in response to psychostimulant exposure. ΔFosB is also upregulated by chronic psychostimulant treatments, and is known to activate certain genes (eg, cdk5) and repress others (eg, c-fos) where it recruits HDAC1 as a corepressor. ... Chronic exposure to psychostimulants increases glutamatergic [signaling] from the prefrontal cortex to the NAc. Glutamatergic signaling elevates Ca2+ levels in NAc postsynaptic elements where it activates CaMK (calcium/calmodulin protein kinases) signaling, which, in addition to phosphorylating CREB, also phosphorylates HDAC5.
    Figure 2: Psychostimulant-induced signaling events
  2. ^ Broussard JI (January 2012). "Co-transmission of dopamine and glutamate". The Journal of General Physiology. 139 (1): 93–96. doi:10.1085/jgp.201110659. PMC 3250102. PMID 22200950. Coincident and convergent input often induces plasticity on a postsynaptic neuron. The NAc integrates processed information about the environment from basolateral amygdala, hippocampus, and prefrontal cortex (PFC), as well as projections from midbrain dopamine neurons. Previous studies have demonstrated how dopamine modulates this integrative process. For example, high frequency stimulation potentiates hippocampal inputs to the NAc while simultaneously depressing PFC synapses (Goto and Grace, 2005). The converse was also shown to be true; stimulation at PFC potentiates PFC–NAc synapses but depresses hippocampal–NAc synapses. In light of the new functional evidence of midbrain dopamine/glutamate co-transmission (references above), new experiments of NAc function will have to test whether midbrain glutamatergic inputs bias or filter either limbic or cortical inputs to guide goal-directed behavior.
  3. ^ Kanehisa Laboratories (10 October 2014). "Amphetamine – Homo sapiens (human)". KEGG Pathway. Retrieved 31 October 2014. Most addictive drugs increase extracellular concentrations of dopamine (DA) in nucleus accumbens (NAc) and medial prefrontal cortex (mPFC), projection areas of mesocorticolimbic DA neurons and key components of the "brain reward circuit". Amphetamine achieves this elevation in extracellular levels of DA by promoting efflux from synaptic terminals. ... Chronic exposure to amphetamine induces a unique transcription factor delta FosB, which plays an essential role in long-term adaptive changes in the brain.
  4. ^ Cadet JL, Brannock C, Jayanthi S, Krasnova IN (2015). "Transcriptional and epigenetic substrates of methamphetamine addiction and withdrawal: evidence from a long-access self-administration model in the rat". Molecular Neurobiology. 51 (2): 696–717 (Figure 1). doi:10.1007/s12035-014-8776-8. PMC 4359351. PMID 24939695.
  5. ^ a b c Robison AJ, Nestler EJ (November 2011). "Transcriptional and epigenetic mechanisms of addiction". Nature Reviews Neuroscience. 12 (11): 623–637. doi:10.1038/nrn3111. PMC 3272277. PMID 21989194. ΔFosB serves as one of the master control proteins governing this structural plasticity. ... ΔFosB also represses G9a expression, leading to reduced repressive histone methylation at the cdk5 gene. The net result is gene activation and increased CDK5 expression. ... In contrast, ΔFosB binds to the c-fos gene and recruits several co-repressors, including HDAC1 (histone deacetylase 1) and SIRT 1 (sirtuin 1). ... The net result is c-fos gene repression.
    Figure 4: Epigenetic basis of drug regulation of gene expression
  6. ^ a b c Nestler EJ (December 2012). "Transcriptional mechanisms of drug addiction". Clinical Psychopharmacology and Neuroscience. 10 (3): 136–143. doi:10.9758/cpn.2012.10.3.136. PMC 3569166. PMID 23430970. The 35-37 kD ΔFosB isoforms accumulate with chronic drug exposure due to their extraordinarily long half-lives. ... As a result of its stability, the ΔFosB protein persists in neurons for at least several weeks after cessation of drug exposure. ... ΔFosB overexpression in nucleus accumbens induces NFκB ... In contrast, the ability of ΔFosB to repress the c-Fos gene occurs in concert with the recruitment of a histone deacetylase and presumably several other repressive proteins such as a repressive histone methyltransferase
  7. ^ Nestler EJ (October 2008). "Transcriptional mechanisms of addiction: Role of ΔFosB". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences. 363 (1507): 3245–3255. doi:10.1098/rstb.2008.0067. PMC 2607320. PMID 18640924. Recent evidence has shown that ΔFosB also represses the c-fos gene that helps create the molecular switch—from the induction of several short-lived Fos family proteins after acute drug exposure to the predominant accumulation of ΔFosB after chronic drug exposure
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Original – See the transcluded wikilink-annotated image insertion template. This image is annotated on commons and in template:psychostimulant addiction.
Reason
It's an interactive image that illustrates the fairly technical process/mechanisms through which addiction to stimulants occurs. It's been linked on the talkpages of three relevant wikiprojects (WP:MCB, WP:MED, WP:PHARM) for feedback prior to this nomination.
Articles in which this image appears
FosB/ΔFosB, Amphetamine, Methamphetamine, Behavioral epigenetics
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Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
Creator
Seppi333
It's a bug in SVG, though I didn't bother correcting it since the image renders correctly once converted to PNG. It appears that way regardless of the browser used. Seppi333 (Insert  | Maintained) 06:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose No idea about the accuracy of what is depicted, but definitely needs polishing. It really looks like the kind of diagram one would find in secondary/high school report on a first sight. Even though it's correct, I think it takes more than just accuracy to get FP tag. - Blieusong (talk) 10:09, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • This image would be featured for its encyclopedic value, not primarily its artistic value. You are on extremely loose footing calling this "high-school" quality, even if you only mean the artistic choices. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 11:03, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do realize that EV gets the priority over here. But it's still featured picture candidate and so we can't do anything artistically wise, which was the point of my comment. I don't ask for Picasso grade diagrams, but at the very least, this candidate should use sans serif fonts, and be less cluttered. - Blieusong (talk) 16:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with you that this diagram is nothing special in terms of execution. It is easy to find lots of small niggles. I could not comment on other aspects. I do not wish to denigrate the picture overall, as it may be excellent in terms of information content. 86.130.67.100 (talk) 19:59, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The diagram uses sans, though I'll point out that font style isn't a criteria for FP. My apologies if it's too complicated for you though; the diagram is geared towards individuals with more than a secondary/high school education. Seppi333 (Insert  | Maintained) 04:32, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • OH! What font are you using? It isn't showing up properly on my computer... Are you using Inkscape or illustrator to edit this? Illustrator has an option to convert all text to outline - which will get rid of all the issues. If you don't use it everyone will need the correct font installed (including the MediaWiki software, which has a very limited number of fonts). -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 05:33, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • P.S.It will make the image harder to edit, but the trick here is to save an image for editing with the text as normal as well, and upload it for reference. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 05:35, 26 August 2014 (UTC) [reply]
  • Comment: Not sure if it's relevant for this FPC, but the template's using red text to represent transcription factors is confusing. I initially thought they were red links. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:16, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, I've given it some further thought and think it might be a better idea to have the text in the image itself and using an image map to provide the links. This would help avoid the problem of the stand-alone image being unusable. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:52, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 20:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]



Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 Aug 2014 at 20:44:59 (UTC)

Original – In this diagram, amphetamine enters the presynaptic neuron across the neuronal membrane or through the dopamine transporter (DAT).[1] Once inside, it binds to trace amine-associated receptor 1 (TAAR1) or enters the synaptic vesicles through vesicular monoamine transporter 2 (VMAT2).[1][2] When amphetamine or a trace amine (e.g., phenethylamine) binds to TAAR1, it reduces postsynaptic dopamine receptor firing rate and triggers protein kinase A (PKA) and protein kinase C (PKC) signaling, resulting in DAT phosphorylation.[1] Phosphorylated DAT then either operates in reverse or withdraws into the presynaptic neuron and ceases transport.[1] When amphetamine or a trace amine enters the synaptic vesicles through VMAT2, dopamine is released into the cytosol (yellow-orange area).[2][3]

References

  1. ^ a b c d Miller GM (January 2011). "The emerging role of trace amine-associated receptor 1 in the functional regulation of monoamine transporters and dopaminergic activity". J. Neurochem. 116 (2): 164–176. doi:10.1111/j.1471-4159.2010.07109.x. PMC 3005101. PMID 21073468.
  2. ^ a b Eiden LE, Weihe E (January 2011). "VMAT2: a dynamic regulator of brain monoaminergic neuronal function interacting with drugs of abuse". Ann. N. Y. Acad. Sci. 1216: 86–98. doi:10.1111/j.1749-6632.2010.05906.x. PMID 21272013. VMAT2 is the CNS vesicular transporter for not only the biogenic amines DA, NE, EPI, 5-HT, and HIS, but likely also for the trace amines TYR, PEA, and thyronamine (THYR) ... [Trace aminergic] neurons in mammalian CNS would be identifiable as neurons expressing VMAT2 for storage, and the biosynthetic enzyme aromatic amino acid decarboxylase (AADC).
  3. ^ Offermanns S, Rosenthal W (2008). Encyclopedia of Molecular Pharmacology (2nd ed.). Berlin: Springer. pp. 1219–1222. ISBN 3540389164.
Reason
It's a helpful visual aid for explaining a technical concept – the pharmacodynamics of amphetamine and trace amines in dopamine neurons that contain trace amine-associated receptor 1.
Articles in which this image appears
Amphetamine, Adderall, Dextroamphetamine, Phenethylamine, TAAR1, Dopamine, Lisdexamfetamine, and Autoreceptor (+3 more on the German wiki )
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Diagrams, drawings, and maps/Diagrams
Creator
Seppi333

Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 20:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]