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Reason
well-known image in New Zealand by an early portrait artist who specialised in portraits of Maori people. There is another version of this image which shows the cloak as white, however this one is more authentic (more similar to the colours of the actual painting).
I saw that but the source image I was referring to is the one here: [2]. The upload can be a scaled image, I am not saying it is, just that it could be. Bammesk (talk) 03:00, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not possible, I don't think - look in the hair and at the canvas - there's pixel-level detail there which wouldn't be possible in a scaled-up image. It's clearly the same photograph but must have been scaled down on the website. TSP (talk) 14:53, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Hmm FYI seems that there is some discussion over which version of this painting should be in the Lindauer article, so will just let that discussion proceed. If this version, the nom stands, if the other version then I will nominate the other version here. MurielMary (talk) 20:29, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Following discussion, it transpires that another version of this painting is preferred for the Lindauer article. So at this stage the image doesn't appear on a WP article and therefore doesn't meet the FP criteria. MurielMary (talk) 21:54, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as above. Sorry. This file is not used in any articles, and its counterpart is used only in a gallery in a very heavily illustrated (though short) article. There are also questions to be asked about the source of this file, as suggested in the conversation above. That said, the subject matter is excellent, and I would very much like to support something like this in the future. Josh Milburn (talk) 01:20, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - re 'There is another version of this image which shows the cloak as white, however this one is more authentic (more similar to the colours of the actual painting)' - they're not the same painting. Note the different detail on the cloak particularly. This article estimates that Lindauer painted this subject up to 30 times. This doesn't necessarily swing the vote one way or the other, but seemed relevant to note. TSP (talk) 14:53, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There's a reflective glare on the control knob on the left of the camera. Studio shots shot be lit evenly to avoid mistakes like this. lNeverCry09:41, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Laocoön Group, has been one of the most famous ancient sculptures ever since it was excavated in Rome in 1506 and placed on public display in the Vatican.
Oppose – nominated image doesn't have correct proportions, it is about 6% extended (enlarged) in the horizontal direction. (comparing these 3 images: [3], [4], [5] shows the last 2 have the same proportions) Bammesk (talk) 17:03, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Chris, I know this nomination is over now, but only just found out about it and didn't get a chance to respond while it was active. It doesn't make sense to crop it anywhere, because it is a 360x180 degree full photosphere panorama and any loss of dimensions would mean it wouldn't look right in the panorama viewer. As INeverCry mentioned, it isn't really intended to be viewed in any other way. Ðiliff«»(Talk)01:56, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support - great image. I do find these a little confusing to look at, though - has there ever been a proposal to offer a panorama viewer on Wikimedia? TSP (talk) 13:23, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I'd searched but not found one (just lots of Wikipedia pages about panoramas) - I now see that it's linked from the image page, but it's pretty buried under all the technical and permissions information. Might it be worth linking this in the caption (or perhaps creating a panorama image template with a 'View as panorama' button), as it seems by far the best way to view it? TSP (talk) 14:42, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Could you clarify this? Do you mean something about the composition should make it more clear that the photo is in Edmonton? -- Acefitt17:42, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's a photo of a freeway/superhighway structure, of which there are many. It may be a fine structure engineering-wise, but I don't see any visual information about its function. It's a very large structure, with much empty space, so the third-level flyovers mentioned in the target article, while clear, aren't particularly evident as such. Sca (talk) 18:56, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Bammesk:I can mostly fix aberration in Lightroom and upload a revised version; it's the best I could do with the terrible Nikon 18-55mm kit lens. See right for corrected image. I also have this image, a different composition with no flare. -- Acefitt04:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Since i made more shots in museum, i always have problem when i see WB (colors) off (reality and what we are given by medias). In this case, is her face really so much red, see neck bellow, so white ? --PetarM (talk) 20:13, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support, though I would prefer to see this in People/Artists than Artwork/Paintings. PetarM, I am personally confident that we can trust the NPG's own scan. Josh Milburn (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We have a NPG scan, unless you think a mistake was made with this upload. Perhaps the discrepancy between the NPG scans is a good reason to oppose, perhaps not. Josh Milburn (talk) 03:05, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Josh Milburn, Bammesk: Dcoetzee had some very strange uploads for Artwork, some of them i found completely out. Since i was also in Vienna Museum and saw (Tower of Babel etc)... latter user was Blocked, i dont know why, but i would be careful with with his uploads, since what i saw isnt picture anymore. It even might be fault from a Museum, as here, i saw our museum is putting strange pics on their page, colors are over-saturated, for my case (see history bellow). --PetarM (talk) 07:28, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Problem is, i saw his uploads in the museum, and on out site. Two very different versions. He was more uploader than some experienced photographer (colors - editing, white-balance are problem here). --PetarM (talk) 07:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - this is right on the edge of resolution requirements, and full-size shows a lot of JPEG artefacting; and the subject doesn't seem to be singularly notable - the painting isn't mentioned in the article. TSP (talk) 13:14, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Josh, not a good reproduction, the top and bottom of the image are very soft, the middle is not. Also, comparing to the image on this page [7], the colors look slightly off. Bammesk (talk) 02:36, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
striking image of the woman's facial expression, detail of uniform and medals, and the other figure and Arabic writing in the background. Meets res criteria
Thanks for the link. DOF and cropping seem to me to be personal preference/taste (rather than definite deal-breakers like poor resolution). Would that be fair to say? I actually like the left crop and the DOF as they both contribute to an image which seems very "close" and immediate and, IMO, well composed. MurielMary (talk) 06:45, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A substandard image, violating criteria 1, 2 and 3. It begs poses the question, who's that other person? (and what's that writing in the background?). In terms of visual information, a crop showing only the person in focus would be better. However, we apparently don't have an ID for her, making this a closeup of an anonymous person. If that person were doing something illustrative, it might be all right, but she's just standing there, and half her face is shadowed. Sca (talk) 15:44, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than "just standing there" she is standing at attention during a pass and review formation (I will add this information to the caption). MurielMary (talk) 21:15, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sca, it shows a working woman in a country that was struggling with women's education 15 years ago. It has good EV in articles that address women in Afghanistan. I don't find the shortcomings substantial enough to override the EV. Bammesk (talk) 02:07, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I plead guilty to being corrupted by TV news presenters misusing that phrase. I'd forgotten the original meaning. Thanks. (However, I don't get the bit about Am. propaganda.) Sca (talk) 16:14, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is an OK photo, but as noted above not a great one technically. More significantly, the EV seems weak as it doesn't really illustrate what the two women are doing, or why they are standing at attention at separate angles (which is unusual unless they're standing around something, which is presumably the case). Nick-D (talk) 00:23, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I would guess they were posed at different angles to show front and side views of the uniform. However, as noted, the side view is badly out of focus. Sca (talk) 15:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sca, this isn't a posed image, it doesn't look like one either, there are bits of a 3rd person behind her, we also have this image [8], there is no sign these were posed. And what is with the "she has to be doing something"? The image isn't being used to demonstrate a function, an act, craft, skill, sport or such. Are these people doing anything [9], [10]? Bammesk (talk) 18:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, and they weren't good choices for FPs, IMO – especially the astronauts; there's no worse cliché than a posed group. Regarding the nom., only the photog could definitively state that it's not posed. That said, I wouldn't oppose a simple photo of the one subject in focus if it were cropped well, there were no "bits" behind the subject, and we had an ID. Sca (talk) 19:09, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A photographer that uses high end gear and flies to assignments certainly wouldn't pose images with bits hanging behind his/her main subject. About you not opposing a simple photo etc. etc.: the image has technical shortcomings and its composition is a subjective thing, so there is no wrong vote. But when you call an image "substandard", please don't follow it with us having to read stuff on walls and her having to do stuff. Those aren't part of the standards. (valued opinions: yes, standards: no) Bammesk (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To beat a moribund horse: In this instance I think "posed" is a matter of semantics. It can be argued either way. To my mind, when people stand stock still in front of a camera, they are effectively posing. And this shot is objectively substandard technically. Anyhow, at this pt. looks like an even tie. Sca (talk) 23:23, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Acefitt, do you have another shot of this scene without the headlight stream? I am leaning to support, but perhaps it will look better without the stream. Bammesk (talk) 03:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Bammesk: Per Sca's recommendation I nominated this photo instead of the other which has a less distracting light streak... neither is really a stylistic choice as a long exposure was required for quality with my cheap cam/glass combo. That said, I find it does serve to emphasize that the interchange is three levels high. -- Acefitt02:24, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is a better image, I agree, but the headlight stream is floating above ground and is distracting, if it was on or close to a road surface it would look normal, but as is it looks unnatural/distracting. I can only Weak support. Bammesk (talk) 05:23, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Beautiful, but I do find the light glare a little distracting. Perhaps it would be possible to find a compromise between this image and the cropped one below? Sca (talk) 17:05, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
good quality image (through the Google Art Project) of a painting which is typical of Ruysch's style. Included in the gallery of the article on the artist.
Oppose Very good quality scan for sure, however there is no page for this painting, and no mention of it in the painter's page, so there is no EV for this painting. Mattximus (talk) 15:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. However the grounds for your vote are unclear - there is no mention in the FP criteria that a nominated painting must have its own page, or that it must be mentioned in the painter's page. The criteria state "It is a photograph, diagram, image or animation which is among the best examples of a given subject that the encyclopedia has to offer." - this image is nominated, as stated, because it is among the best examples of Ruysch's work. It also meets the criteria "The image is used in one or more articles." MurielMary (talk) 20:26, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Muriel: The worry here relates to criterion five: "Adds significant encyclopedic value to an article and helps readers to understand an article." (Also: "A picture's encyclopedic value (referred to as "EV") is given priority over its artistic value.") This is important, and what most clearly distinguishes the process here from the process at Commons. It's clear that a picture of a painting in an article about that painting adds significant EV; equally, if this painting is discussed in the article about the artist, then a picture of it will almost certainly add value. This image, however, comes across as just another picture in a gallery of the artist's work. At one time (I say "at one time" because I can't find it right now, but it may still be written somewhere) we explicitly had a rule against images only used in galleries, and this is a practice that is still followed by a lot of reviewers. Josh Milburn (talk) 02:40, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – we don't know the source of the last upload (original upload source is a personal website [12] and has a wider image [13]). sidenote: this is not a reason for oppose, there is a very different version, actually a different painting, here [14], [15]. Bammesk (talk) 15:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC) . . . added to and revised sidenote Bammesk (talk) 04:58, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I don't see why the source is so important with an image that holds with absolute certainty the license of PD-ART|PD-old-100-1923. This is Napoleon III, so publication at the time of the painting is unquestionable. The painter died in 1889. There's really no legal issue here whatsoever. lNeverCry02:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
INC: we need a reliable source that establishes the integrity of the image (criteria 6), things like color rendition, contrast, sharpness. Art galleries and museum websites generally display accurate images which can establish the integrity. Other websites aren’t necessarily reliable. We It also need helps to know the size of the painting, so we know how many pixels per inch the capture is (criteria 2). Bammesk (talk) 02:54, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, pixels per inch has nothing to do with criteria 2. It only states a minimum pixel count - 1500 at this time. (A super-detailed satellite photo wouldn't even be one pixel per inch, but still acceptable...) The scan or photo looks ok to me, so I disagree with the reason for the opposes. A painting looks quite different depending in what lighting it is viewed (daylight or artificial, low or high brightness etc.) so it is impossible to judge any digital depiction without actually having seen the original. --Janke | Talk20:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, the noise just looks like digital noise to me, shouldn't be that much at ISO 100 with a 60D. Shadows maybe boosted in post. -- Acefitt08:47, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The composition of this photo is sub-standard - what it shows is unclear, with the crop/frame being too tight and the shadow and crowd resulting in lots of clutter. As a result, it isn't a particularly successful photo of the memorial flame, or the events which occur during the memorial day. Nick-D (talk) 10:59, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
notable painting of the Battle of Waterloo, considered an iconic representation of the battle and used in several articles covering the battle and the artist.
Oppose on portratis, if leg is cut, that should be above the knees. Similar to hand cuts - above the ankles. Also dont like center position, she should face to right side with more space, so she need to be on left side. --PetarM (talk) 16:44, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support – A leg is a leg, you don't need to see a predetermined portion of one to know what it is. Good expression, nice capture. Sca (talk) 23:20, 8 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Composition not FP: the framing puts her shoulder in the centre rather than her face and racquet. Background (especially the Mercedes sign, and the people in white) distracting. Cropping from the left side would improve it. --ELEKHHT00:06, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the framing putting her arm in the centre acts to centre the viewer's focus on her strength and athletic physique, which she is known for as a top-seeding athlete. IMO. MurielMary (talk) 08:30, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Bammesk: off-center was my goal. Check details where belt is attached on metal holder, they are croped similar, upper and bottom. Crop at your is weird in bottom, one is full, other is croped on half. I dont like too tight crop, but is personal taste. @Chris Woodrich, that would be probably stuff just for Panasonic owners, since we have no. of shots and step. It was 15/1. What that 1 means...who know, tiniest step forward. How much i must figure out for future. --PetarM (talk) 08:30, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
A fantastic photograph of a charismatic reptile. It's a photo taken in Rwanda, which is unusual for a FP (maybe a first?), which can only add another reason to support.
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Reason
Good EV. The Capitole (French for "capitol") is the heart of the municipal administration of the French city of Toulouse, the town's hôtel de ville. The town hall was supposedly located on the spot where St. Saturninus was martyred. The bishop was said to have been tied to the legs of a bull, which was driven down the steps of the town's capitol, causing his head to be dashed open.
Comment – It's a pretty night shot of the bldg., but I'm uncomfortable with the amount of foreground in this composition. Sca (talk) 15:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
A windmill built in 1806 on the National Register of Historic Places. This seems like it meets the encyclopedic/technical aspects of the criteria, and it's a QI and VI on Commons, but I haven't nominated anything before so hopefully I'm not way off track. :)
Weak support – Weak because the target article is skimpy. Could be fleshed out with more info about the mill's century of operation and with interior pix. Sca (talk) 17:25, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
The atomic chess variant revolves around an unusual mechanic (the "explosion" upon capturing a piece). This graphic/animation illustrates a simple example of the mechanic (and thus the game). It's a QI and VI over at Commons. I think it's strong on encyclopedic value, so I guess we'll see if the technical side is sufficient (e.g. it's low resolution, but intentionally so, given its purpose and that it's a diagram rather than a photo).
Oppose - The last part of this animation makes no sense. It just shows 4 pieces simultaneously disappearing from the board. Huh? Kaldari (talk) 22:30, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Kaldari: ? I don't understand your objection. The last part is the whole point -- the way it's different from regular chess. It's not chess. It's a chess variant. When you take a piece, the capturing piece, captured piece, and all adjacent nonpawns are removed. Perhaps I should've summarized the game beyond what that which is in the caption for the purpose of FPC? New at this, so don't know how much context is necessary. — Rhododendritestalk \\ 00:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – the size is small. Why not larger? say double, like these [18], [19]. The size can always be scaled down in article use, but enlarging from a small original is a bad idea. Bammesk (talk) 13:23, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Sorry; this feels like an extremely generic chess animation. I wonder whether a clearer illustration might somehow demonstrate the relationship of the rook and the bishop to the captured pawn, and perhaps the even greater threat that the knight initially poses. I confess that I'm not certain what a FP-level chess animation would look like, but I don't think this is it. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:07, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Bammesk and J Milburn: (and others) - I've uploaded a new version of this image which is more or less identical but higher resolution (will probably requiring purging the cache). While I was at it, I created another version (as this one is VI/QI, I didn't want to modify it beyond the resolution): File:Atomic capture on g7.gif. The idea was to add something along the lines of what J Milburn suggested, demonstrating the relationship of the rook and the bishop to the captured pawn. Frankly, while it technically does that, the radiation symbol may be a little silly and I don't know that the way I've done it actually does make it clearer. It adds the red highlights to show the affected squares, but still requires explanation via text (i.e. what the red squares mean, why two pieces were affected but two weren't -- and if no red squares on those, then why the explosion only seemed to affect the square in front of the capture, etc.). So my inclination at this point is still to go with this one (albeit a higher resolution version), but I'd appreciate your thoughts. — Rhododendritestalk \\ 22:35, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I struck my oppose. About the radiation symbol: I think a knight symbol replacing it is simpler (just an opinion). I am neutral on the nomination. Bammesk (talk) 00:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Bammesk: Hmmm. I don't know if I prefer the red highlights prior to the capture rather than after or at the same time, but yeah the radiation symbol kind of sticks out. Before making any other changes, I'd like to see how this nomination continues to play out. I think that as soon as we get away from basic chess diagram content, opinions will vary considerably, and if there's a consensus not to promote this one I'd like to have as many opinions as possible before nominating something else. I do appreciate taking the time to make this revision, btw. — Rhododendritestalk \\ 14:26, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per J Milburn. Animations such as these are illustrative and help the reader understand the subject matter, but I'm not quite convinced that they're FP-worthy. It's the same issue with maps. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:56, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I just wanted to say that my oppose stands. I am not sure what a featured-quality chess diagram would look like, but I'm not convinced that this is it. Josh Milburn (talk) 03:41, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High quality, really helps the article. Some minor cleanup on it would be nice, but I lack the skills. Transparent motors are not common. I do not believe any other motor exists where the motor is transparent from the injector to the nozzle exit plane, making it a very good candidate.
I made the rocket motor. We fired it. The demonstration is the rocket motor firing. I can provide any details you would like about it. We used nitrous oxide as the oxidizer and pyrodex pellets for the igniter. This specific fuel grain was used for the hot fire. Kees08 (talk) 08:12, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"Uninformed"? That's a bit unfair. "The demonstration is the rocket motor firing" is not mentioned in the article, as far as I can see. Furthermore, a scale (or at least a mention) to indicate the size would be important - it looks very small, but is it? For this reason I find the EV low, in a general article about hybrid motors. With some more context, I would not have opposed. --Janke | Talk11:07, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is all good! I can try to write up the description on the photo better. it is very small, about a 6" long motor (I'll double check our drawings). Kees08 (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – EV. There is little about this image in the article, including in its image caption – no mention of helices, transparency of the fuel grain and the device casing, depiction of nozzle, operation in combustion phase, demonstrative value of the image/project. Perhaps a paragraph in the Universities section can add context. Sidenote about copyright: the image shows a university project, captured presumably at a university setting. Does the university own the copyright? (funding issues, private setting, etc.) Bammesk (talk) 14:05, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: @Janke, Bammesk, and Mattximus: I was procrastinating on writing the hybrid rocket engine article because it is a pretty daunting task. Seems like a good time to get moving on it; I will write a motor grain manufacturing methods section and it should help out that section quite a bit. I'll ping you when I am finished. Bammesk: The professor paid for it out of pocket and two of us worked on it without funding. I'll try to tag up with the professor to verify. If there are other things that would cause an oppose, let me know while I address those. Kees08 (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Janke, Bammesk, and Mattximus: I have written a small section on manufacturing of fuel grains and placed the photo there. I do believe it now provides EV, but please let me know if you disagree. I might try to expand that section more, but not surprisingly, it can be difficult to find good sources on hybrid rocket fuel grain manufacturing. Kees08 (talk) 05:28, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Kees08: I suggest a more detailed image caption such as: Transparent 3D-printed hybrid rocket fuel grain, a developmental sample operating in combustion phase (or, a developmental sample shown post-burn, if that's the case), with integrated exit nozzle and helical channels. Also in the file description [21], this wording is confusing: "The grain pictured here is the combustion chamber". What does it mean? "grain is chamber"! For my info: as photographed, is there a transparent encapsulation around the fuel grain? Bammesk (talk) 02:37, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Bammesk: I'll work on the caption and description tonight. For the sake of the discussion, what is really neat here is that the fuel grain acts as the combustion chamber! I have some high speed videos of it, but the one video that was actually good I forgot to plug the camera into the wall, so the video was lost while downloading... Either way, I'll write up a bit more now. Kees08 (talk) 03:00, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Kees08 and Godot13: Good caption. Adding a 1-inch scale to the image would be an improvement (it is not for scientific use so it doesn't have to be accurate, a ballpark scale for encyclopedic use). If you are Ok with that perhaps Godot13 can add it. You said it is about 6 inches long, did you mean end to end? Bammesk (talk) 01:22, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Bammesk and Godot13: I am fine with that, if Godot13 can do it. The motor was six inches long; I cannot find the drawing for it, but we have a rendered model with a ruler next to it. Six inches long end to end. Godot13, would you have time to do that? If not, I'll give it a go. Kees08 (talk) 05:41, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Kees08: I added a 1 inch scale. Hopefully the "grain manufacturing" section will have more content later on, for now there seems to be enough EV, and clarity about the image and device size. Support. Bammesk (talk) 02:59, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. It will be expanded, I have been neglecting some GA review duties so have been hitting that up. I decided that article needed rewritten from the top down, and have been working through it. I'll discuss different additive manufacturing materials for that section, reasons that you would do that in another section, and whatever else I can. I have two hybrid rockets under my belt, finally time to share the lessons I have learned! (without doing OR, hopefully obviously!) Kees08 (talk) 03:51, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The second part of your oppose is a bit harsh. The composition is better than a snapshot, and the central pathway in a cemetery is usually pretty important, unless you want to wander around looking for a certain grave or section. lNeverCry08:47, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Regretfully, I think the difficulty with this image is that it could be from anywhere. Since none of the graves are highlighted (and the writing on those in the image is not sharp enough to read), it limits the EV of the photograph.--Godot13 (talk) 09:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – I agree with the above, the image doesn't stand out, it looks like a generic cemetery, or as the criteria puts it, doesn't "illustrates the subject in a compelling way". Bammesk (talk) 14:26, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment@Janke, Godot13, Bammesk, Jobas, PetarM, and Marvellous Spider-Man: Answer to above votes: this picture provides a good general view of the cemetery, it shows quite well how the cemetery looks like. It is not realistic to expect to be able read the graves in a single picture in this place, and it is not the point of the picture anyway. I have never seen cemeteries like this one, with so few graves and so much trees and grass, and it is designed like this on purpose by the city who manages the place. In addition, taken in November, when most people visit cemeteries, it is an accurate illustration for the place. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:49, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]