Support Last nomination, for those who missed it, was dedicated to sorting out a couple issues. Now that they're dealt with, nothing blocks this image from promotion in my opinion. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.4% of all FPs.23:00, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - This is very much not a Yorck scan, and thus the source provided is invalid (see discussion at Commons). I've reverted to the Yorck version.
As for the digitization, it's honestly quite good and worth supporting. It just needs to be uploaded separately, with a clear and accurate source. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:05, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's a rough choice. The Google Art Project version has fantastic resolution, but seems a little dark. The Museum version shows up a bit better at thumbnail, but is only... like 1/16th the size. Either way, they're both better than the Yorck scan. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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After seeing how good of quality Annan's picture of Livingstone was, I looked to see what else he had. Rather a lot, actually, a lot of it connected with Edinburgh and Glasgow. So, William Rankine. He developed the Rankine temperature scale, which is... well, to use a formulation I had to learn way back when I was in American high school and studying for the SATs before I moved over here: Kelvin is to Celsius as Rankine is to Fahrenheit.
Support – Interesting. It would be good to know where this was taken; the file description doesn't say. -- Sca (talk) 13:17, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Google Arts says that "Sergei Prokofiev arrived on Angel Island on August 21, 1918. This image was taken in New York after he was admitted into the country by immigration officials." (that's about another photo from that series). Artem.G (talk) 16:00, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. New York should be added to whatever may eventually appear as the POTD copy block. Quite a dapper guy for a Soviet luminary. -- Sca (talk) 12:39, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Unless there's been a change that I'm not aware of (entirely possible, given the time I spent away from Wikipedia), article quality is not a criterion for promotion. Featuring on the Main Page is a separate issue, and even then back when I was coordinating I'd usually let something of this length through. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd mostly agree: Proper stubs are a bit of a problem as they could easily end up merged or deleted, but this article isn't so short as to be a problem. This is more Start-class. There's a minimum standard, but this reaches it. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.4% of all FPs.01:22, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's not officially a criterion for promotion here at FPC, but for those choosing POTDs on the Main Page it usually is. However, there's probably enough in the 'Description' section of Brenthis ino for a POTD copy block. -- Sca (talk) 12:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Quality macro photo of a natural snowflake. Good lead image, FP on Commons. On a sidenote: the photographer's userpage [1] says his snowflake images have been published (or used) in notable websites.
Support - I'm happy with the current location myself, as the infobox image also shows the plant's distinctive leaves (it could be done better, but...). No comment on size estimates. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:45, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This question is harder for me to answer than the question of size. There is a photo with a superimposed lineal and that comes is correct in my opinion.
@Ermell: you didn't address Charles' concern. Is "size ca 4mm" correct? If yes, then good. If no or unsure, then the file description [2] should be modified. Bammesk (talk) 18:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The discussion of hybridogenesis (and the related article klepton) were new to me and unexpectedly interesting. (As an aside, of the many common names for this frog, I much prefer "Edible frog", both because it's a direct translation of the original Linnaean binomial Rana esculenta, and because it avoids confusion with the very common Green frog of eastern North America, which is an entirely different critter.) Choliamb (talk) 19:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The work is being done in the centre-bottom of the image. Barring a patient giving a release, there is little chance of getting much showing the patient (indeed, most items on Commons don't show much of the patient) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:23, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Great quality, especially the faces of the four ladies in the front & the man with the cigarette. The artwork in the background gives it a surreal quality. By far the highest quality image in regards to Beatnik culture I can find anywhere on Wikipedia or Commons.
Oppose - Messy composition / person cut off / right edge of image visible / not in prominent position in articles / thus low EV. Not among Wiki's "best"... --Janke | Talk14:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – This needs some restoration (the right edge, and some specks at full size). I support if the restoration is done. I am not bothered by the composition because it's a semi-historic photo. Bammesk (talk) 02:56, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I think the "messy" composition adds to its charm. I find it an incredible photo personally. Shame you guys aren't feeling it like I do. I think it's prominent in the "Hippie" article, easily the most interesting photo on that page.Michael0986 (talk) 07:01, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Not particularly, hah. I would appreciate it if someone would do a restoration for it. It has so much going on, I love the mystery of it. Michael0986 (talk) 02:05, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Admittedly, this is one of many illustrations in Jean Ignace Isidore Gérard Grandville, and we could probably reasonably argue for any of them, or a set. But I think we should have at least one of Granville's illustrations featured. Perhaps I should expand this to a set of images.
Fair. There's so many to choose from in his article I'm not sure it's possible not to make an arbitrary choice. He's one of those artists who's noted for a distinctive type of image more than any specific one in that type, so all the ones not in galleries are the outliers, and the stuff people associate with him is in galleries. Weird situation. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.4% of all FPs.22:57, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Quality lead image of IceCube Neutrino Observatory. The observatory is located less than a mile from the exact South Pole. It has been operational since 2010. The observatory detects cosmic neutrinos using an array of 5,160 under ice sensors. Its aim is to produce a map of cosmic neutrino emissions, primarily of the northern hemisphere. A similar future observatory, the KM3NeT, is planned for detecting neutrinos of the southern hemisphere.
Comment Great EV, but I think there are some blownout highlights—the right edges of the cylindrical towers and some patches of snow being an example. 〜 Festucalex • talk04:44, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm inclined to think that a building with white parts in perma-snow in sunlight is going to necessarily on the bright side. Given dawn/dusk comes for, at best, a few days a year, and given the extremely-difficult-to-reach geographic location, Support. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs.15:45, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Not really blown, the values are 240-255. In fact, very few pixels are 255. High EV, and prominently in the news just recently. --Janke | Talk17:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Very high quality image and the only FP on Commoms related to the La Hague lighthouse and circumpolar light trails. Also a finalist for Picture of The Year 2017 on Commons.
Oppose - star trails are dotted due to intervals between exposures. Oh, I remember the days when you could expose several hours on film... --Janke | Talk17:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Even that one looks pretty weird in full size, the trails are all chopped up... Looks like it is upscaled from a smaller original (I checked the tiff file on the ESO site, it's the same). --Janke | Talk20:11, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The dotting is part of digital photography. It [3] isn't upscaled, the landscape ambient light (moon/sun/etc.) changes over 6 hours of exposure (judging by star trails), so the result is smooth, averaged, silky looking. It's not a defect. Bammesk (talk) 12:42, 2 July 2023 (UTC) . . . . This image, if nominated, needs editing though. There are some dots (may be dead pixels) in the top middle area. Bammesk (talk) 02:52, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I agree with Adam. The image is buried in a gallery at the end of the article, and it doesn't show the whole or a big portion of the building as do some of the other images in the article. Bammesk (talk) 01:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Extremely high-resolution photo of island of such quality, you can even make out the roads, buildings, and the like... all in an area encompassing four different geopolitical zones: three countries (Cyprus, Northern Cyprus, and the United Kingdom) and the UN buffer zone.
About the oppose rationales above: This is a ceremonial, show platoon [5], so posing and promoting is built into what they do and part of the EV. Bammesk (talk) 13:21, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Perplexed question India? Why??? It's not as if there's a shortage of photogenic birds in India. Why did they need to poach a photo of a New World species for their postage stamp? – Choliamb (talk) 12:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is very normal for postal authorities to issue sets of images of non-native animals. They cater to 'topical' (US) or 'thematic' (UK) stamp collectors. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:51, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
About your comment in the reason section above: The license you release your photos under on Commons doesn't require "permission". It requires "attribution". Bammesk (talk) 12:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They didn't ask permission which is not required but is usual. They did not attribute the photo as required by the licence and declined to answer a stream of e-mails. Reprehensible behaviour by India Post. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesjsharp (talk • contribs)
Ok understood. I am just pointing out that claiming "permission", or lack of, doesn't help or change anything. It just confuses the issue. Bammesk (talk) 15:05, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I experienced a similar situation a few years ago: North Korea took my Wiki photo of the Bengtskär lighthouse and put it on a stamp (no permission, no attribution whatsoever) - and added Albatross birds! (Those are half a globe away, never seen in Finland...) The result is here: [6] That's my family and friends (in sepia) standing under the left-hand stamp... --Janke | Talk20:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That is not fair. The authorship must be appreciated when the artistic work is used. Being an Indian, I should say sorry to you for the act. As a lawyer I can take it up the issue before the appropriate authority if you insist Charlesjsharp. Let the authority give an explanation. DreamSparrowChat17:05, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by trouble ? I don't find any trouble in informing an illegal act to an authority which is committed the said act Charlesjsharp. If you do not wish to proceed, leave it. Otherwise, not an issue for me. Government department is not above the LAW. Let them at least come and apologise for this. DreamSparrowChat13:14, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Mydreamsparrow:, the copyright license here says "Attribution .... you may do so in any reasonable manner". Is it reasonable to expect attribution "on the face of a stamp" itself? Such as the name of a photographer, or a URL link, or etc., on the face of a stamp? If no, then is it reasonable that attribution could be (or perhaps was) given in a public log or public listing of some sorts? Bammesk (talk) 17:29, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Astonishingly, not one of the many other photos of this species in the Commons shows the red patches on the thighs, which are mentioned in the article. – Choliamb (talk) 12:27, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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High quality large image. FP on Commons. Renominated. Received 4 support votes; no opposes. This is a ‘behaviour’ image showing how the turtle withdraws its feet when threatened (in this case by our vehicle as it was in the middle of the road). Also shows head clearly.
Comment – Only moderately interesting photographically. Cleaned up the 800-word target article a bit. – Sca (talk) 12:26, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's by a major photographer, and from an era where outdoor photography like this was much more difficult. I dunno. I think it's, at the least, encyclopedic. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs.18:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support – top border has a white streak (just a pixel wide, see right side), visible at high magnification (800%). Bammesk (talk) 02:31, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good quality photo of a type of ship that was likely rarely photographed (especially with the photos surviving) Nick-D (talk) 10:42, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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There's definite grain, but it's also a pretty high-resolution scan of a fairly small print. Worked with the FA-nominator to give an excellent new featured article the picture it deserved. I do like having a good picture at the start of a featured article, don't you?
Restoration notes at file description page. If you see any issues, flag them up, I'll deal with them tomorrow. Biggest thing that might need noted is that I squared off the arched top of the image. This is because the National Portrait Gallery has a habit of cropping off the edges of cabinet cards, so it kinda needed to be cropped, and there's no background to speak of. I've noted one example of an image that exists in both forms on the file description page; there's tons of similar examples.
Support – very nice restoration, but since you asked, maybe a small patch or two on the upper right border, and a patch on the background adjacent to her right ear? "Having a good picture at the start of a featured article"? Of course not, that's blasphemous :-) Bammesk (talk) 02:46, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd disagree and say that the image nominated for FP must be uniquely valuable in some way to the article. Being the lead image is common, but we want, ideally, all the images in the article to be good. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs.23:38, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I agree with Adam, but it's noisy, especially the background noise stands out. I'll give it a try and denoise it. Bammesk (talk) 03:43, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Aye, needs a denoise, but the philosophy matters more than individual photographic issues. I've seen too many articles with terrible images throughout. We need to have strong motivations to improve them. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs.11:02, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. I uploaded the denoised version on top of the earlier version, I don't think the modification is controversial. Bammesk (talk) 01:27, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am not sure what you're referring to? Is it the blotchy background? I can smooth out the background. FYI, I didn't add, clone or modify anything. I just blurred the background, and very slightly the tablet. Bammesk (talk) 02:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Adam, I don't really see what you see; and at full size, not just the minimum FP size. I see rough-cut edges of the tablet (on left and right) that fall outside the camera's depth of field and therefore are hazy. That's not unusual. And the noise is now reasonable, so the EV carries the image IMO. Bammesk (talk) 17:09, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Is there any chance of identifying the grasshopper? (Perhaps to the family level, as I realise species might be a big ask?) Josh Milburn (talk) 07:48, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It could be Conocephalus sp., but I don't have high confidence (and incidentally didn't write the 'grasshopper' caption). JJ Harrison (talk)
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good quality, good EV. It's a photo of Hsue-shen Tsien, who was suspected to be a communist in 1950, was under house arrest for 5 years, and then was deported to China. In the US he was a PhD student and a colleague of Theodore von Karman, and is often mentioned as one of the founders of the Jet Propulsion Lab. In China he became a father of satellite and missile programs, and eventually of the whole Chinese space program. This photo was made on a ship when he and his family was deported in exchange for American soldiers captured during the Korean war.
I think its big problem is it's an (undocumented) crop of the original image which removes a lot of the context that makes it valuable for this use. I'll have a go at this. Miss Beatnik I guess isn't on a timescale anymore. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs.13:27, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Could also be added to time lapse, better than most of the videos there, except for the astronomical one. (If that one would be re-uploaded from ESA in a larger, less compressed format and suitably edited, it would be a great FPC...) --Janke | Talk08:31, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, possibly as a replacement, possibly as an additional FP. Not sure. It's probably useful to identification to see both positions. SupportAdam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs.04:07, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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good quality (Note: I know that the horizon isn't straight but correcting it will cause resolution change or a redo of the photo as mentioned on Commons ), FP on Commons, one of the best photos of the wreck
She seems significant, but between the long neck and oddly porcelain face, either this is photoshopped or she has really smooth features. I'd like to see other circa-2012 images of her before deciding. Adam Cuerden(talk)Has about 8.5% of all FPs.08:21, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment : I think Ivar's side view of the same has more EV, showing feet etc. Here, it's just a colorful sausage... --Janke | Talk18:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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The hull of the ATLAS particle detector experiment at CERN being constructed in 2005. For an overview of the project see the lead section of the article. The experiments have been ongoing since 2008. The photo highlights the eight toroid magnets wrapped with orange bands. For a physical layout of the project see the lead image in the Detector systems section and its image caption.
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Good depiction of Kármán vortex street, a fluid dynamics phenomenon, in nature. This one is in the atmosphere and it was captured from space. The repetitive swirling pattern of clouds is caused by the interaction of wind blowing past (lower left corner) high altitude mountains of Juan Fernández Islands off the coast of Chile, specifically the Alejandro Selkirk Island[10] with a peak elevation of 4160 ft. This is a relatively old photo (1999) but the quality is sufficient and this isn't a commonly photographed subject in nature (not laboratory). FP on Commons.
But that's what our Wiki articles are for! If I see an interesting POTD image, I always go to the article... Support. --Janke | Talk08:52, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I don't see what makes this image "above and beyond". It's a picture of Balfour but I don't see how it has much more EV than any other decent quality picture of him. Visually, the crop is too close IMO. (t · c) buidhe03:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Buidhe, I chose to restore this photo of Balfour partly because it was already present on his Wikidata profile, but also because it's (imo) the best photo we have of him. The other possible one would be File:A.J. Balfour LCCN2014682753 (cropped).jpg, but the photograph itself is more blurry and he's not looking into the camera. As for the crop, it was directly pulled from National Portrait Gallery website, so I'm assuming the only other content of the photo is a border. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 14:37, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support due to high EV and use in many articles - however, it would benefit from a slight local lightening of the IMO too dark face. --Janke | Talk08:15, 22 July 2023 (UTC) PS: Saw the world premiere yesterday, in Finland's southernmost movie theater [11]...[reply]
Much better now! It's definitely a watchable film - didn't feel like 3 hours at all! It is more about the morality and politics, than the technical aspects of his work. --Janke | Talk14:13, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]