This is better than your other nomination, the exposure is much better. But I'm not really feeling the composition. Maybe you could crop out some of the ground at the bottom of the image. It's disapointing that the top of the flag is cut off too, but there's not much you can do about that apart from retaking the photo (is this possible?). Aaadddaaammm (talk) 09:22, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Good photo. Can someone change the spelling of the title from "Adminastrive" to "Administrative", I've managed to correct the caption both here and on Assembly of the Republic of Albania, but I'm too new to understand how to change the title without messing things up. TehGrauniad (talk) 23:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose bad quality (noise, CA); poor composition (too much foreground, cut off at top, cars are disturbing, tight crop at right); perspective distortions; limited EV (because of the bad crop) --kaʁstn12:33, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I oppose this image. It's so unsharp at full resolution, with some jpg artefacting too, I think. Also the exposure is not great. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 09:20, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the idea with the reflection is very nice, but I completely agree with Aaadddaaammm. Also too tight crop. --kaʁstn12:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Shame, though, that in the bottom corners you can see a fence/rail/wall from where the picture was taken. Overall though I think this looks good. Anoldtreeok (talk) 04:18, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
strong Oppose it doesn't wonder me that a small, sharp night picture are getting so many support votes here. But the image has perspective distortions, at the right to the middle it is underexposed and at the right overexposed, the edges at the bottom right and left are really very ugly. Because of the evening I don't see a huge or good EV, too. --kaʁstn12:26, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- A daytime or blue-hour version would be nice, but this version is a bit dark and unexciting, and nowhere as good as some of the night-time urban panoramas that we have. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 21:34, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Interesting, but very small and low quality. This would be a great subject for a featured pic, but this picture is not it. J Milburn (talk) 09:31, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that it's lower than SVGA, but I like the black and white photography and the bubble action. One of the criteria for featured pics asks for large images if available, but currently there are none, so I felt that the size criteria was not applicable IMHO. GreenPine (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:37, 23 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]
You are right in thinking that the quality criteria are sometimes relaxed, but then we would have to ask whether this image, firstly, adds an awful lot to the article/has a very high EV (which it does) and, secondly, whether this image is completely irreplaceable (which, so far as I can see, it is not). As such, I consider it reasonable to oppose on the grounds that we can reasonably hope for a stronger image which is more inline with the quality of other featured photographs. J Milburn (talk) 10:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that someone might think that the image is irreplaceable, but I've searched Flickr, the U.S. Navy website, and other image sources for another non-copyright-restricted image of cavitation, and none of those are superior to this. Access to engineering facilities where this sort of work happens is fairly rare, so I believe that another image that's superior to this won't be available anytime soon. GreenPine (talk) 20:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The technical requirements are usually relaxed for "not possible to get another photo" rather than "difficult to get another photo" or "we don't have another photo" in practise. JJ Harrison (talk) 22:49, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thank you for the explanation. :) Maybe what I should be looking for is a category more like "adds highly significant value to the article" rather than Wikipedia-wide Featured Picture. Another way to approach this would be to do for photos what is done for articles, with various rankings of articles instead of simply featured and not featured. Is that a suggestion that I could make somewhere? GreenPine (talk) 07:22, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that info. (BTW, that link doesn't go to Valued Pictures). Good news is that Valued Pictures still exists on the Commons. I would de-list this image from FP candidates but there doesn't seem to be a way for a nominator to withdraw a nomination, so I'll let this time out. GreenPine (talk) 22:56, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Stumbled across this image today and found it very engaging. A genuinely globally notable figure – whatever you make of the Gaia hypothesis, etc – in a very natural and warm portrait. IMO technicals are good enough.
Weak oppose. Sorry, but our standards for portraits is quite high. I can understand all the plants around him that would normally be considered clutter (but here presents him in nature); however, the flash in the glasses is distracting. Sharpness is OK, not bad for a compact. -- King of♥♦♣ ♠ 04:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- it's nice to see something different, but ultimately the flash reflections in his glasses and the lack of sharpness of the subject lead me to oppose this. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 21:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If anything I think the comment was made intending to get less focus on the head and more on the whole body, not to show head only... But maybe that's just how I read it... gazhiley.co.uk15:00, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What Spikebrennan said was "it looks like the creature is almost all head". I doubt that this is the situation in the alternative version as well. --Tomer T (talk) 17:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right, and therefore to dispel that view, removing the body completely is not the answer - it is to show it at a better angle that proves that it isn't all head... After all, prior to the part you copied he also stated "I am doubtful about the EV of this specific angle" and thus a better angle would remove doubt... removing the body does not create a better angle... gazhiley.co.uk18:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
Previous nomination didn't get any votes. It has good contrast, accurate exposure and neutral colour balance (well at least that is what the image histogram strongly suggests). It meets the pixel criteria. Its probably the most photogenic of what's left of Sir George Staunton's work in Staunton Country Park (The Shell House is heavily shaded and damaged, the Chinese bridge has been reduced to it's bare structure and the lake has been altered). It adds value to the article in that it shows the structure and gives some idea of what the park would have been like before William Henry Stone got his hands on it and the trees became somewhat overgrown. The only editing done is a slight rotation and crop.
Comment I'm not crazy about the composition. To me, it would be more pleasing as a 4:3 vertical crop. That would also leave enough vegetation in the frame to give just as much context to the image. Jujutaculartalk04:19, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that sounds like a reasonable explanation with regards to the straightness. I prefer the original version to the alternative -- but why not crop the original in the portrait format? The quality is good enough that the picture can take a substantial crop and still be of decent resolution. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 21:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
This failed at WP:FSC (nomination) because the audio is not historically significant or otherwise notable. Thus, it was deemed that this video needs to pass for its visual component and evaluated by WP:FPC.
I assume you have access to the internet, a large repository of knowledge created by humankind. It may have the answer you seek. But seriously, this video is very long. I did not watch the whole thing, and I'm not sure if many people will. I've never seen a nomination for a video longer than a few seconds really, so I think we're not going to be very equipped to judge this. Can you link the failed FSC nomination, out of interest? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:53, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, sure, but I was saying that over here, at featured pictures, I'm pretty sure we've never had a nomination for a video of this length. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 10:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, Oppose per J Milburn. The alt is not nearly as nice compositionally as the first, and not much of the bridge is really in the frame. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 17:33, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- I'm afraid the silhouette-style detracts from the encyclopedic value of the image. The composition is quite pleasing, but makes it difficult to tell the two bridges apart. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 23:09, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. NotFromUtrecht is correct - there are two bridges in this image. The obvious one with the arches is not Havelock Bridge which is the flat bridge a few feet in front of the arched bridge (closer to the camera). This image is so poorly illustrative of the bridge I had to check the articles twice to see what was going on - I don't believe this picture should even be used in the Old Godavari Bridge article at all. Rmhermen (talk) 16:57, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
On further inspection, there does seem to be a rather pinkish cast to much of the background, which could be fixed too (although it's difficult to tell whether this is a camera error, or reflect the lighting at the time). NotFromUtrecht (talk) 13:12, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Don't think the lighting is quite as poor as Alvesgasper does, but it's still not top. Also, the date, as has been said. Anoldtreeok (talk) 04:22, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. The lighting is fantastic - it fits the subject perfectly. As the date's gone, there's nothing wrong with it now. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 09:16, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Come now, that's hardly welcoming. The votes of anonymous users are often ignored, which is already bitey enough, but that means that, should someone want to take page, they should create an account. The weighting of this vote, unless you have evidence of anything untoward, should really be decided by the closer. J Milburn (talk) 21:20, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Must say this, I think this vote should be ignored. It's my friend.
Comment. I can see why others dislike the heavy shadows. Would it not be possible to lift these slightly in post-processing? I've made a very quick attempt at doing doing so in edit one -- what do people think? NotFromUtrecht (talk) 19:40, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not the resolution but, in my opinion, the framing and the background (besides the harsh lighting). On the other hand there is little expression in this face. Alvesgaspar (talk) 07:45, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support either – the heavy shadows on the face are not ideal (perhaps use a bit of fill flash next time?), but the portrait has good EV and I actually quite like the rather plain composition. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 12:14, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment[[JJHarrison, not sure what you mean by using flash at -2 stops. As in, probably by -2 stops you mean the exposure value, you mean to say that meter the face to -2 stops and then use flash? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hariya1234 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Meter the face as usual. Your camera can also adjust how bright the flash is ("flash exposure compensation") relative to the scene. For fill flash you don't want it as bright, so set it to -2 stops or so. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you're regarding Gnbonline as a meatpuppet the vote should probably be counted. With due respect Hariya hasn't really been a regular here either so isn't particularly aware of the processes, and plenty of other people vote on their 'friends' images. Having said which, this also raises the issue that FPC has again become simply a 'vote count'. --jjron (talk) 08:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I could support this if Arafat were not in the background, but unfortunately, I can't consider it a true 'portrait' with him there. upstateNYer03:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment -- as Aaadddaaammm said, the artefacts in the alt are a problem. The original version has a lot of problems with dust spots, fibres, etc. Ultimately I think it would be best to start again with the Library of Congress's 6100*4600px TIFF version, and do a proper restoration. Then we would almost certainly have a FP-worthy picture. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 17:36, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support original, this is a really impressive landscape of a major bit of historical civil engineering. For me it meets the 8 criteria, I'm not too keen on over-'photoshopping' pictures, I suppose there are a couple of hairs/scratches that could come out. TehGrauniad (talk) 23:44, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also Support Edit 2.
Support edit 2. I started over from the LOC tif (note higher resolution, which allows us to make out the workers better). I didn't do much to it: tiny levels adjustment and removed some dust. Chick Bowen20:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It's kind of interesting, but I'm not really buying the EV (yeah, so the panels get dirty...), and I don't like the projection and composite image. --jjron (talk) 09:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The fact that the panels got dirty was ultimately the reason for the rover's demise. We have a whole article on the fact that the panels get dirty (Cleaning event) so I think its EV is well justified. Also, the projection and composite are more or less inevitable. The only way to get a photograph of the rover on Mars is for it to do it from the overhead camera. Cowtowner (talk) 00:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I checked that before voting. The article is on (as its name suggests) the cleaning event, not the dirty rover, and this doesn't show the cleaning at all (and FWIW, having now looked closer I'm starting to question the WP:NOTABILITY of that article - the key claim for its inclusion seems to be that "The term cleaning event is used on several NASA webpages"; hmmm, so that qualifies it for an article? Is it actually a meaningful term? But anyway, I digress). And I know this is more specialised, but it's kind of like claiming a picture of a dirty car was high EV for Car wash. --jjron (talk) 03:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Such an image does exist, the question is, where is the original? Although I would argue even having a smaller version would increase the EV of this one. Cowtowner (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose The plating itself is very well done and it looks great other than the fact that the lighting gradient on the background and the plate shadow really throws me off and distracts from the subject. I won't say the lighting looks fake, because it is a staged image after all, but it does look unreal even for a food shot. Cat-five - talk20:14, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think it's all those nasty-looking vegetables that turns me off. The entire picture is all a bit too yellow and orange and wishy-washy. I know the cous-cous can't help being anything but yellow so that's okay, but the veg looks soggy, overcooked, pale, washed out and old, like they've been sat in a refrigerator for a week and then microwaved, especially those carrots and greens. The cous cous itself is a bit overcooked as well, the individual grains look to be flaky (like how rice gets if you boil it too long), and some of it is clumped together in a sticky mass when it should be all fluffy with each pearl separate of the next one. If I'd cooked this I'd be embarrassed to send this out to the restaurant. It looks, well, disgusting. Also, the left side of the pile of cous cous, near the center of the pile is too bright, you can't tell one grain from the next. I'm sure there's a technical term for it, I'm just not sure what it is, but I think it's like when there's sky and it's white. Matthewedwards : Chat 07:28, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Doesn't add ev to any of the articles it is featured in, as they are full of other images. In addition, there are many composition problems and other technical issues, for example the pupils aren't visible, and the ears are cut oddly. Tomer T (talk) 20:38, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
This is a renomination. This didn't get enough votes the first time and I do feel that it should have passed. I did a small highlight reduction as it might help give some detail in the highlights (salt) for poorly adjusted displays. Gives a good glimpse into a common method of salt production
Comment I'm not convinced of the EV - it doesn't seem like its among Ansel Adam's best work and I'm not sure it really shows very much about the church. JJ Harrison (talk) 10:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. This is actually among Adams's better known photographs. Its value is obviously aesthetic rather than documentary or historical, so I wouldn't say it's a problem that the whole church isn't depicted. At any rate, it's wonderfully scanned and restored. NauticaShades13:04, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support When I think of Ansel Adams I immediately see his iconic Yosemite images. Black and white photography is one of my favorite mediums and he is truly a master of the field, one of the greats. This image is technically very good, but i mirror JJ's comments here, I don't think this is an example of his best work. The FP we already have of his work (File:Adams The Tetons and the Snake River.jpg) is more what I think of when I think of his work, but he did plenty of photography that wasn't grandiose scenics. I'm also aware of the limited availably of copyright free images we have access too, much of his work still remains firmly in copyright, so I'm going to go ahead and commit to a weak support here. Personally I think any picture we can get of his is deserving of a FP, just simply because it's Ansel Adams, lol. — raekyt18:15, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've uploaded a new scan of Adams' Tetons and Snake River photo: File:Ansel_Adams_-_National_Archives_79-AA-G01.jpg. It really highlights the shortcomings of our existing FP (especially data loss in the shadows). It needs extensive restoration though, so I wouldn't advise working on it until we have the TIFF, which should be forthcoming. Kaldari (talk) 19:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article seems confused about the spelling of the word. "Janbiya and Janbia" appear in bold on an article titled "Jambiya". – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies17:06, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I see, "jambiya" is explained halfway down the article, sort of. I like the image; I can't tell if it's sharp or not—the image, not the blade :D — and I'm pretty new to the English FAC, so I'm still getting a feel of what's expected for images around here. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies17:09, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Blown highlights as stated. Also dagger is very greasy, creating poor looking reflections on the blade. I don't feel that the image is special enough that it could not be retaken to a higher standard. JFitch(talk)11:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Looks like a good photograph of a museum piece to me. I don't think there's anything unusual about the blade being greasy-- blades are often oiled to prevent rust. Spikebrennan (talk) 19:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The plant at the bottom left appears very odd. The rear portion is out of focus, while the front portion is in focus, and portions of the rear are overlapping the front. It looks like a shorter DOF shot was tacked on to this one rather carelessly. Neverlookback75 (talk) 00:22, 01 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm sorry, but irrespective of the above comments, the sheer fact that the shadow of the photographer is in the shot just spoils this immediately for me... gazhiley.co.uk14:05, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I knew somebody would complain about my shadow. Of course it is easy to remove in photo shop , but it will be unnatural. The image was taken with a low Sun's conditions ,and yes there are shadows, including my own. If I am to cut my shadow, I need to cut the foreground rock too. Anyway...--Mbz1 (talk) 14:25, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree - even the edit2 is annoying as the shadows in general are easily removed by taking the picture in the middle of the day - We should not have to accept this with shadows accross it... gazhiley.co.uk11:13, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support edit 2 -- Edit 2 deals with the issue of the photographer's shadow appearing in the picture. I don't have a problem with cloning the photo in this case, since we frequently accept pictures which have had very limited amounts of cloning applied. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 14:01, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support edit 2. Beautiful photograph, but it's difficult to tell how far away, or how large, this sandy beach is (or how high the cliffs are) without some kind of size reference. Spikebrennan (talk) 19:31, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Very small and, though interesting, I can not see any kind of massively redeeming EV to compensate for the size. J Milburn (talk) 14:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Its not reproducible in the sense that no one will be taking another shot, but getting higher resolution is quite possible. It'd involve buying a print and scanning it at much higher resolution. Pity about the high cost though. JJ Harrison (talk) 23:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CommentIs there a 2 Mpx rule here? Anyway, I just uploaded the largest version I could find, at 1.95 Mpx. I cannot attest to the sharpness or quality of this version since I merely found it online and had nothing to do with its creation otherwise. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies06:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I am keeping my previous vote. Yes, it's bigger, but it's still not massive, nor is it great photography. If this was a photo of a child prodigy today, it would have been shot straight down. It's just not blowing me away. J Milburn (talk) 10:06, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now. The photo is great, but I think the EV isn't adequate yet. The article says there are two subspecies, which differ in plumage. Male plumage is also apparently more colourful during breeding.[4] The Purple Finch article doesn't say anything about the latter issue, or specify which circumstances apply to the bird pictured here. Details on the image description page indicate that the photo was taken during breeding season, within the range of the eastern subspecies, but we shouldn't impose this sort of detective work on the reader. --Avenue (talk) 12:20, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
It is the best image for Grand-Pré, it is high-resolution, free-licence, To an article, it shows the park very well thus making value. The only editing is cropping.
Oppose I think the EV is good enough, but the photo is noisy, underexposed, not super sharp and there are chromatic aberrations. Its also tilted and I don't think huge amounts of thought have been put into the composition. I think stepping back a bit and taking the shot on a sunny day would give better results (maybe like this, but not quite so far back) JJ Harrison (talk) 06:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
This rather unassuming door was used during the Battle of Britain by Sir Keith Park to reach the No. 11 Group Operations Room in what is now known as the Battle of Britain Bunker. It is all that is left of the house he stayed in, which was demolished in 1996. I believe it has good encyclopedic value, includes all the subject and is of good quality.
Oppose. Unassuming can be a good quality, but not so much for an FP (except where it's the point, e.g. camouflage). The EV seems marginal to me (both the other photos in Keith Park are much better, for instance), and the quality isn't great (tilted, unsharp, fringing in corners). Composition very straightforward. --Avenue (talk) 11:23, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per J Milburn, but out of principle, I disagree with Avenue's complaint about the composition being straight forward. It is a door. That's what the photo is meant to say. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 20:26, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Beyond showing what he looks like (which is useful), this doesn't have much EV - it doesn't depict him doing anything related to the reason for his notability. In technical terms, I don't see why this is in black and white. Nick-D (talk) 07:47, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just from the EV side please note most of the FP's for portraits (either successfull or not) don't show the person doing anything other than looking at the camera... The EV in this picture is that it shows what he looks like - more than provides enough EV for the article IMO... At the moment I agree about the black and white but haven't fully decided oppose/support yet... gazhiley.co.uk13:59, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Talateweo, thanks for sharing this- it would probably be an easy support for me if it was in colour, but I'm afraid I'm not a fan of the black and white. Do you have a version in colour? J Milburn (talk) 14:14, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Personally, this does the job (shows what he looks like). The BW doesn't bother me one way or another; sort of like the Mark Harmon portrait we have featured. Cowtowner (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As this guys only upload to Commons... we're DEFINITELY going to need OTRS... Looks too professional to trust it was created by the user. I'm tagging it. (Also the edits here are primarily on this one article...) — raekyt14:43, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Recommend suspending until licensing is resolved, but based on it being found by TinEye and the uploader stating it was never published in the upload description... theres a good chance this image is a copyvio. — raekyt21:30, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Possible. I thought it would be unusual for a user to steal a picture and then nominate it for featured status in their own name. However, yes, OTRS would be good. J Milburn (talk) 08:10, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 12 June 2011 at 08:29:36 (UTC)
Reason
Very representative photo of the building which is among the most popular landmarks of Sofia city. It gives a comprehensive idea of the university' main edifice and its Neo-baroque style.
The higher resolution will give you only the possibility of printing bigger formats and nothing more. Is this the main goal of the Featured Pictures Project?--MrPanyGoff (talk) 13:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't like the lens distortion. I had a play trying to make it more sensible, but couldn't do it with my limited gimp skills. Anyone volunteers to give it a shot? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 18:14, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know actually what you are trying to do but I would like to ensure you that the actual view from this viewpoint is almost the same in reality. The building occupies the corner of a quarter and the angle between the two wings is about 100-110 degrees. In other words they are almost perpendicular to each other. Furthermore, the wings separately are curved in plan in the section near the main body. The curves you see in the image are 99% real. --MrPanyGoff (talk) 22:36, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support The ideal shot would be probably an aerial one to understand this quite unusual building, but this is a well executed street view. Have never seen before a so ambiguously and confusingly asymmetrical façade. Sad to see those fences and heavy traffic in front of it. --Elekhh (talk) 02:33, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There's a stitching issue with the two cars just below the right statue. One of the cars morphs into the other, is this fixable? — ToдorBoжinov —08:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Mainly due to the cars morphed together. Higher resolution would also be nice. I would definitely support if the cars were fixed and higher resolution were provided (assuming you have a higher resolution available). Jujutaculartalk11:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just to make this clear: I'd also support provided that the issue with the morphing cars is fixed. While a larger pic would be nice, I find the current size sufficient. The bug with the cars is too apparent to leave this way though. And a resident of Sofia, I can confirm that the building is curved and the perspective is not misleading. It might have something to do with the fact that the rectorate was initially just the central section. The side wings were added later and their shape may have been caused by the direction of the already existing roads. — ToдorBoжinov —16:03, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think that we could leave this. No one noticed it so long time even me. I tried to erase these two cars but it is a lot of work with no guarantee for successful result. :( --MrPanyGoff (talk) 06:24, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, okay. As is, we're looking at +4-1, which makes this a non-promotion. It appears that Todor, at least, would support if the two cars are fixed, which would turn this into a promotion. It's up to you whether you think that's worth the effort. Makeemlighter (talk) 07:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Is it not possible to restitch the panorama? Or use a part of the unstitched photos to touch up the bug on this one, without restitching? Cars need not be erased, just fixed. And I think at this point the nomination is hanging on this... — ToдorBoжinov —09:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, but this new image doesn't have the presence of the first. It's really busy, and doesn't make the building look interesting. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 17:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
SupportWeak support with some reservations. I might have preferred a less radical restoration. The sky here is almost completely constructed, which is understandable since there wasn't really any detail to preserve there, but it looks a bit odd in places where visible details meet the sky, such as the top left side of the pile. I also think the contrast is a little too high, leaving it rather bright at the top and rather dark at the bottom (more detail in the face and clothes of the fellow at the bottom is visible in the original). Still, a glass plate in this bad shape leaves relatively few good options, and, as said above, we did say when we delisted it that we would support a higher-resolution version with more detail. Chick Bowen22:16, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I've added alt 2, a much more conservatively restored version. I support that as well, of course, but I'll leave the above and let the closer sort it out. Chick Bowen22:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, There’s a halo around the pyre and man standing atop: it looks like image compression artefacting (although I’m certainly no expert). I’m not totally convinced this restoration has made the image any clearer (although of course there are scratches and dirt that have been removed). I would support the original file File:Bison skull pile.jpg instead, it meets all of the 8 criteria, except for maybe number 1 which we could overlook given its age, and that it’s a fantastic otherworldly bit of history. TehGrauniad (talk) 00:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
They're not compression artifacts; they're the pixels leftover from the restorer's attempt to recreate the line between the skull pile and sky. I agree with you and have added the unrestored version as an alternate. Chick Bowen02:01, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Chick Bowen, thanks for adding the original as an alternative. I don't want to offend anyone, the person who did the restoration is obviously very talented with this type of digital media, it's just that my preference is for the original. TehGrauniad (talk) 11:04, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt 1 (unrestored version) for the reasons given in my post above. Both are great, but I prefer it with less/no restoration. TehGrauniad (talk) 10:56, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Aaadddaaamm, you might want to read the section on how to comment. I can spell it out for you: "Please remember to be civil, not to bite the newbies and to comment on the image, not the person." Hariya1234 (talk) 14:33, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, it was a little bit rude, but I was really shocked when I read your comment, as Cowtowner seems to be as well. Can you expand on how and why you find the image cluttered? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 15:10, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Shouldn't this nomination be pretty much just a formality, since it is a former FP that was delisted on size constraints, now that there is a very high resolution version of it sourced, it should only be a matter of picking which version to put back as the current replacement for the FP. It's notability, and everything else related to why we vote on a FP was decided long ago in favor of the image. I don't see any reason how a nomination like this could "fail" and general opposes for all the candidates shouldn't even be valid in this scenario. Do we have any past examples where a FP was delisted on size reasons SOLELY only later to have a high resolution version sourced and the FP reinstated? — raekyt23:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was just looking at this from a procedural point of view, I don't recall anything specific about denoms on size that later fulfill the size requirement from a new source? I presume from this we're just going as if it's a new nom, I was just point out that such a procedure may be moot due to the circumstances of why it was delisted. As for the version I'd prefer as a replacement from the old FP is probably the unedited original in lieu of a very conservative professional restoration on par with our previous high-resolution historic restorations. The dirty scan of the plate is sufficient to satisfy the FP criteria and replace the old small image, and later if/when we get a very high restoration a delist & replace nom can be handled to switch to the new restoration. I haven't really looked in detail at the "conservative" restoration listed here, but on this matter there is no reason why we should rush a restoration, just getting the very high resolution scan of this original glass plate was the biggest challenge. Luckily it was eventually sourced, thank god for the internet. — raekyt00:29, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support (prefer Alt 2) - valuable high resolution historic image. I think the conservative restoration is the best option of the choices. Kaldari (talk) 01:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support unrestored original (alt1) I don't think the Alt2 conservative restoration is good enough, still plenty of visible scratches and defects. There is no reason the unedited original can work until such time as a restoration is made that is on par with some of our past restorations of this magnitude. I don't see any reason to settle. — raekyt01:53, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would concede and support the conservative restoration, but I still think this picture is deserving of a much more carefully done restoration. — raekyt17:59, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support A decent picture of a plane. It does look caged, but it's not meant to be a huge action shot, it's meant to draw our attention to the plane itself. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
High Quality image, shows the texture of a sweet gum seed very well. In most pictures the inside of the holes would not be shown. Background also draws the eye toward the seed itself. May need a slight crop.
Yeah, I saw it coming on the graininess facet. There's little to nothing I can do about that, it's actually the best the camera can give. Here's a sample picture from the fujifilm official website taken with the same kind of camera as mine. It suffers from the same graininess.--Nanoman657 (talk) 13:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another issue is the kinda busy background. Perhaps a different angle on the sweetgum seed would have provided a less-distracting background. SpencerT♦C03:19, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry another Oppose I've got nothing against the graininess, it's no worse than many other pics that have passed, I just think the background is really awful. It's such a pity as it would be so easy to take exactly the same photo with a cleaner, more sensibly composed background. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose -- I can see no evidence that this has encyclopedic value as an example of hyperrealism. In my opinion, the painting simply does not appear to resemble a photograph, which is the key definition of hyperrealist painting. It is by a non-notable arist, and there are no citations which describe him or the painting as being in the hyperrealist genre. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 09:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I can only see this being a FP if Mauro David was created, it would probably need to be good enough for a DYK nomination size and content wise before I could support it as a FP. As for EV on any other page, it would be minimal at best. — raekyt15:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It might look hyperreal to you, but such an interpretation is little more than original research. What are you basing this interpretation on? All I'm seeing is a fairly standard still life by a non-notable painter. NotFromUtrecht (talk) 16:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, without a reliable third-party source to state this artist is notable for hyperealism, then it shouldn't be featured as such. — raekyt16:34, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: The image was removed from the only article in which it appears. Per NotFromUtrecht the connection seems to be OR.--RDBury (talk) 09:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very fine image. I'm sort of confused, I always thought the Shuttle came up from beneath the ISS. Huh! – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies09:59, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Amazing. I remember watching the very first R-bar pitch maneuver way back when on my way old computer, and the Earth appeared to be directly below (though it filled the whole frame, so I really can't determine the angle of the camera), so I think this is where I got the idea in my head. Thanks for the image. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies08:06, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question Is the above linked picture a potential FP nom btw? I think it's fantastic and seems a good size, but I wouldn't be confident in nomming myself - still consider myself a bit of a newb in relation to wiki editing... gazhiley.co.uk13:39, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think some of the other photos in that series have better compositions, they're new and actually the first external photos of a Space Shuttle docked at the ISS. See Commons:Category:Soyuz_TMA-20 for the others. Some of them are certainly FP-quality. --KFP (contact | edits) 06:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The solar panels which run parallel to the Earth's surface and several of the cloud tops are blown... Is there no way to get a version with a better processing/better exposure? - ZephyrisTalk15:59, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, unless I'm mistaken those brightest bits are radiators (which are considerably more reflective than the solar panels). Also, I suppose the sunlight gets pretty intense up there with no atmosphere to attenuate it. --KFP (contact | edits) 17:04, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(If you look at the radiators in the old FP, you can see solar panels' pattern reflected on them; that's how reflective they are.) --KFP (contact | edits) 18:28, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support beautiful image. Would have been even better if the camera angle had allowed the view of the station to be exactly centered with top of the curve of Earth. Pine (GreenPine)t20:18, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
I think the photo give the readers of articles about creole languages a quick idea of what it is about. The sign was made by children, has very clear letters, good light, focus, geocoded. I think it is challenging to provide a good photograph illustrating what a language is about, and I think this photo does the job.
Comment. I appreciate this effort to illustrate such a hard to illustrate topic, and not considering picture quality itself, what concerns me, in terms of en:Wiki, is that Antillean Creole is mainly based on French, not English. To me, looking at this, it's just a foreign language, and because I can't understand it anyway there's nothing about it that says 'creole'. For this reason I don't find it has huge EV in its main use in Creole language (although use in Antillean Creole is stronger). But as an en:Wiki FP, it would seem to make more sense to use a picture of something like Jamaican Creole, which is based on English, and which you can often vaguely make sense out of. Maybe this nom would be better placed on fr:Wiki and/or Commons? --jjron (talk) 11:15, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm sorry. This is clearly a difficult topic to illustrate, but I do not feel that this image illustrates the topic to a FP level. J Milburn (talk) 18:38, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
I agree it would have been less difficult to make a good picture to illustrate Jamaican Creole as this creole language is based on English. But jst because a topic is less accessible, and requires more from the viewer, does that exclude the possibility of FP?
I partially agree about its EV for Creole language - it is not so easy to understand the example for a Creole language and a Creole language inherited from English. On the other hand its qualities are very much what Creole is about, it uses only very simple words and comes around many aspects of the language in a very short message.
As the creole languages are most often a spoken language and not an official language, where it is used, it is not seen so much in writing. The photo is a good exception thereof.
I am a little surprised that the text is perceived as something which cannot be understood by a typical English speaking reader.
Lévé - "Lift". clearly related to the English word levitate
Pié - "foot", clearly related to, e.g., pedestrian
aw - off, sound a bit similar
ti - short form of the very well known French word for small, "petit"
moun - "man", and so on
I am not a native English speaker myself, but if you have just a little insight into the origin of the words from latin or if you have some basic familiarity with some of the big languages derived from latin, like French, Spanish, Italian or Portuguese, it think a lot of it is quite familiar.
There is an article called Antillean Creole. Does this not have EV because it is based on a French language? If you want to learn about Antillean Crole as an English speaking user, there is no way around being exposed to the French language I would say. Thus you need some time to understand the subject and here I think such a photo helps.
Is it at all possible to illustrate such a topic as Creole language with a picture, which could be FP? I am not implying that my nomination is the answer to that, but could it be done? I think that is an interesting question and challenge. Much less obvious then getting an FP of some bird species - it is so evident how to illustrate that...
I thought it said "Lift foot up". You thought "Lift foot off". The supplied translation says "Lift your foot". Not only do I think it is unclear, I am not certain we have the correct answer yet. 75.41.110.200 (talk) 18:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I acknowledge this does not look right, and is actually also not stated in the translations sourced on the file page. I have striked out the speculative translations. --Slaunger (talk) 18:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why try to compare it to English language when it's based on French language? Lévé = Levé (lift), Pié = Pied (foot), Moun = Môme (child), la = là (here), etc. Laurent (talk) 13:06, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
CommentI have to agree J Milburn on this, it's a difficult topic to illustrate. Some topics are too abstract or non-visual for an image to provide much help in understanding. For a language, something that would help but is missing from the article is a map showing where the language is spoken. It might never be FP but it would be more helpful than a road sign.--RDBury (talk) 23:29, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe another thing for a language might be a portion of a notable text or literature written in that language, in a historically significant form (original manuscript or something?). SpencerT♦C03:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support I am inclined to support due to the quality of the photo and the fact that this is just about the best way you can visually illustrate a non-visual topic such as a language. However, I also don't feel that sort of "wow" factor that would make me really convinced to support. Is there any way we could get a similar photo, with the sign both in Creole and English? That would really do it for me. -RunningOnBrains(talk)01:47, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support but it looks underexposed. But this is probably my favorite angle of the building. Very clean looking. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies12:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose I guess I have no right in supporting if I find fault with the image. The exposure really needs to be corrected and the shadows brightened up for details. I love the angle though. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies23:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose With the sun hitting at this angle with this level of brightness the front is very dark and hard if not impossible to see any details... Other than that though it's all good... gazhiley.co.uk13:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support I don't find the photo underexposed at all. Short of creating a high-dynamic range image, areas in a high contrast photo such as this will be darker and others lighter. There are areas of this photo that come close to "pure white". Rather than allowing them to "blow out", the exposure seems to capture them. --C.J. (talk) 16:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Really? The front is so dark you can't tell what is at the top or below the steps... One assumes that there are doors there, but it could just as easily be a blank wall for all we know... That to me is a big flaw... gazhiley08:28, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well you must have better eyes than me... With my brightness and contrast both on 100 I can see some vertical lines that could be door frames but could also be anything else... gazhiley13:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's a matter of whether or not you can see the doors. Of course they're there. Ignoring the building, the sky is unnaturally dark, and the entire concrete walkway in the foreground is dark. The image is underexposed, though I'm sure someone with histograms can prove or disprove this. Whether it bothers people or not, that's a different matter. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies10:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see the problem with the exposure. The photographer was exposing for the interesting looking building, not the sky. In order to expose for such a light colored building, everything else has to go dark, including the sky. Ever heard of using polarizers to darken the sky? - Jiyangc — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jiyangc (talk • contribs) 06:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reluctant oppose. I been to "zoomie church" and this image doesn't really capture the spectacular nature of it. A larger display size would help some, but even then doesn't really give you the feel for it (I clicked through.)TCO (talk) 20:27, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support all this underexposure stuff doesn't make sense as the front just happens to be in the shadows and falling outside dynamic range. If you expose for the front, then the sides will be blown out and lose detail. Unless you can find another picture with the sun hitting the front, then this pic is fine, as the structure seems more important than the front door. - Jiyangc
Oppose: looks more like a promotional photo than an encyclopaedic entry.. foreground is distracting, background (of alternative) is distracting, several technical issues, not FP standard. --Walkabout12 (talk) 02:54, 13 June 2011 (Aust WST)
Comment: I'm not concerned about it looking like a promotional photo; compositionally, this strikes me as fantastic. What I am worried about it the colouration- is it just me, or are the colours a little off? J Milburn (talk) 12:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you look at the middle left background of the first photo you can see how it is lit - a single shoot through umbrella with a little fill from somewhere else. The result is fairly low key, but I think the white balance is pretty close to accurate, maybe very slightly blue. The edit is much too yellow. The really weird thing though is that there is a gymnast in a completely different pose if you look at that mirror reflection full size. I'm not sure if its photo manipulation or more than one shoot was going on or if someone was just practicing in the background. JJ Harrison (talk) 00:28, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, this is pretty clearly just a training facility - there's at least one (it may be two) other gymnasts in the mirror; the definite one is on a balance beam, and wearing different clothes, so it's not photo manipulation, and I don't even think it's another photo shoot, just someone else practising. --jjron (talk) 12:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support original edit 2 only The one in which she performs a salto is a great shot, but it doesn't illustrate her face, etc. just how she is able to perform gymnastics. I agree that the new pics are better with the new coloring; it looks freshier and more attractive.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫Share–a–Power[citation needed]15:22, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I said, I'm not really into photo editing and the edit wasn't made with any advanced tool. I would be happy if someone more practiced than I will make another edit. Tomer T (talk) 10:54, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose original edit, alt edit and alt - As JJ says - the edits are way too warm, and the alt doesn't show her really at all. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 09:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edit2 added. Edit1 ("Original edit") is much too warm, Original is too cold. I've tried a mild warming and levels tweak, but really the lighting on this isn't very good, amongst other issues, and I personally don't particularly support any. The original image itself is OK in terms of composition. The alts should probably just be taken down from FPC, as they're going nowhere. --jjron (talk) 12:25, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Edit2 on further consideration. There are some concerns with image quality, but in terms of overcoming systemic bias, etc, I'm willing to give a weak support. Oppose all others. (Note to closer: if this comes down to 4.5 supports, please strike the 'weak' and count this as a full support). --jjron (talk) 10:36, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support edit 2, oppose everything else. That's done it. Composition and EV are great, definitely a picture that deserves to be featured. J Milburn (talk) 17:56, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Darn, darn...darn! I really want to support this as we have WAY too few gymnastics shots. And the effort to capture a personality in the top was good. That said...I VERY ROUTINELY see shots that are much better on International Gymnast site, in gymnastics blogs, covered by photogs at big meets, etc. This is just not up to scratch...not showing the incredible possibilities in an action shot or in a candid of one of the young females (not meant creepy like).TCO (talk) 20:35, 18 June 2011 (UTC) It's like doing a surfer shot or something. The visuals can be very strong and the expectations are high. This is just not a great shot in a genre where great shots are almost the norm.[reply]
And pumpkin, it is not a salto, it is a "sheep jump". A pretty decent one actually. The point of the trick is that you have to get your feet up to head level (tipping head back is allowed and encouraged). this is difficult because of flexiblity and also because it makes the gymnast take concentration off the beam. however, don't really feel like the caption or use in article is supporting a discussion of these technical features. And I can routinely find better shots on the forums and the like showing the issue of feet height. It is kind of a cool pic in terms of showing height, but somehow I still felt wanting. note, this is a trick that Nastia (Shawn's Oly-gold theif) routinely messed up and was gifted on. She could never get her feet up to head height.TCO (talk) 20:52, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Google is often much better than Wiki. Images: [5], explanation: [6]. I can't find a good pic, now, but have seen them of the sheep actually jumping. They do this weird jump in the air and kinda arch their back (I don't think they get feet to head though...) Yeah, you could write an article on it, I guess, using the code and some books as RS's. And IG mag, I guess. however, you really miss out on a lot of pretty decent material because we don't allow blogs (even good ones, by coaches), etc. Really that field a lot of the activity is in forums, blogs, youtube, etc. I think the gymnastics project was going to do an article for evey trick, but that project is dead, dead, dead. Wiki is just not covering that sport basically (unfortuate as it is really not that obscure, has large female audience...but we are 90% male). I did do an article on Amanar, and tried to get a photo. No go. Guess I could write and try to get donations, but even then, most photogs don't want to give away. Would have to try for a snap myself. If for some reason, we did get an FP of the sheep jump (and it does not deserve it, check out the othe pics on Google Images) then I would go ahead and write a stub to cover it.TCO (talk) 16:09, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Segueing, a little. Think about how bad our videos are. (I can't even watch most, as I have that obscure browser Internet Explorer...ya know the majority share browser...most of our readers use it also.) Here is what someone can find on Youtube, so easily. [7]. It really is a stunning acheivement, as well as capturing the biomechanical explanation well...and then the human interaction is compelling as well (performer, audience, even Chris Brooks laughing at the end). Someone can find these sort of gems on Youtube. how many videos do we have like that? TCO (talk) 16:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A pictuer of eastern harbour of Alexandria city in Egypt showing the back of the arc of Alexandria library , Qauitbay citadel and the open sea;
It is added in alexndria article
Its on of my contibutions to wikipedia .
Weak support. Striking, good technically and clear EV. I don't feel comfortable giving a full support, but I can't actually put my finger on why. J Milburn (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Reason
significantly adds to the value of the article it was designed for; a clear, graphical illustration of a structure in common use, namely, fabric edging lockstitch also known as Merrowing.
Oppose As per J Milburn (beaten me to a nom twice in a row now!) I feel this would be best taken from the top of the landscape to the right of this photograph, from almost behind (but not completely behind obviously) the building with the tower... This would afford an almost unobstructed view into the valley below over the houses in the foreground, without having over half the photograph being taken up by clif and shrubs/bushes/trees etc... gazhiley12:56, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Based on cliff focus. Also, if this is the size you plan to display in articles, it's really hard to get much out of the shot. And given you show it to us here at this size, I assume that is your plan in articles.TCO (talk) 20:23, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The alt is a little stronger, but it's still dark and rather small. I was going to compare it to some of our other reptile FPs, but, IMHO, the bar is not all that high there. J Milburn (talk) 12:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reluctant oppose. I prefer the larger lizard view for seeing the creature, but agree with the issue on cut off tail and unclear size (versus what it sits on, a wall?). when full size, the larger image does show a beautiful detail of the animal's scales...so it does have some potential. And I love reptile articles. One general guidance on reptile photos I would give you is the background is crucial (make sure does not match color...and I guess in this case, is confusing as an object.) Really nice pic though...and go reptiles.TCO (talk) 20:19, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Thanks TCO, I'll try and keep that in mind the next time. You see I don't really flaunt a very good equipment and hence it becomes difficult to get a close up of the Reptile without scaring it first. I Think it is high time I buy some good lenses. Hariya1234 (talk) 08:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Good EV but a couple of quibbles. The position of the legs is a bit unfortunate, rear legs in most forward position and front legs bent. I can't help thinking a faction of a second later the shot would be more natural looking. Also, there is only one horse in the shot, usually a horse race involves more than one horse.--RDBury (talk) 02:31, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Just not sure what is special about this shot. Looking at the other pics in the horse racing article, they are much better at supporting the article. Then over on list of jockeys, the photo is just dropped in with no explanation (and really seems out of place). TCO (talk) 20:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral. I know this is kind of a useless vote, but I can't oppose due to great EV, and I cannot support either because of the limited scope of the map itself. SpencerT♦C02:22, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support as article beneficiary. This is very encyclopedic, going into an article (Fluorine) that is a core article, heading for FA. Can probably support several other articles also. Whole thing came directly out of article support as well (not picture looking for home). FS, did a fair amount of work, to blacken the background, create the animation, expand the scale, etc. I would have been happy with any region ("being global"), but this is what NASA had as source material. Overall article does have a picture of F factory in England and discoverer of F, being French. But I am still sensitive to too much American stuff in article and will try to work around that. If someone could find me a pic of Neil Bartlett (English) who invented first F-noble gas compounds, would be happy to stick that in article.TCO (talk) 17:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose.Support given the borders are right. The image is great, but it lacks a single thing — Canada—Alaska border. Also, is it sure that the U.S.—Canada border is the real border, and not limited to U.S. land (I mean, does the border go through the Great Lakes or just below them)? I'm ready to change my mind once these are fixed.--R8R Gtrs (talk) 13:18, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the borders could be taken out, or we could add the Alaska boundary. The US-CA boundary goes through the lakes, but we should check and see if what we have is the correct border.TCO (talk) 15:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
FS looked at that, before. I nixed the video, because most of my readers won't be able to watch it. (The file format, they make us use for WP videos causes problems for most readers...have been down that road with pain on a previous Featured Article...want things in article that work.)TCO (talk) 17:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The first location and worst effects of the ozone hole were over the antarctic. By focusing on northern america this is avoidably and substantially reducing the EV of this image. To me, featuring this would be featuring a clear example of WP:BIAS. --99of9 (talk) 09:58, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see where your coming from but its the only version available and having been made by NASA its only natural for them to centre the map on North America. A large majority of readers are from the States anyway and although you are correct in saying the Antarctic beared the worst effects, this image clearly illustrates that the problem has gone beyond just the poles to NA with which many readers will be able to associate with. Fallschirmjäger✉14:45, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I am a VERY ARTICLE oriented person. And I read the ozone layer article. And we have a pic for the hole already and it is displayed up top. So, it's not like we are trying to displace that pic or only cover the topic with one pic...TCO (talk) 16:56, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Haze issue aside, this seems to be an aerial photo which, at this scale, has perspective issues. Is there a satellite photo of the same area? If not then I think a map would serve the purpose better.--RDBury (talk) 11:46, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Image is too small at 640 × 460 pixels. Image doesn't appear to be stable in the article (I see a bit of edit warring regarding its inclusion in the page history) Matthewedwards : Chat 05:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC*)
Meh...not quite I totally love the concept of someone supplying us with photos via a telescope. That said, caption left me wanting and I didn't really get that much out of the image. Really in that article, the diagram showing the 3 bodies and penumbra and all was much more crucial.TCO (talk) 17:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Poor quality and res. As a side note, why does the article include the photographer's name? I removed it but the photographer re-inserted it. IMO, my image of eclipse is superior --Muhammad(talk)20:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I have corrected the FPC link in this nom, as it originally pointed here. The image caption needs fixing.. you used the same one as for the nomination below! I'd like a bit more information from you other than "lavendar at sunset" for a reason why this should be featured. I'm having a hard time seeing this as equal or superior quality, in any aspect, to the already featured File:Single lavendar flower02.jpg. The image is too orange, blurry, and at 640 × 425 pixels, too small. Matthewedwards : Chat 05:20, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jiyang, and welcome to FPC. I'm afraid I'm going to have to oppose this image at this time, while this picture is very pretty, its encylopedic value is not very high, and at featured picture candidates, we give far higher credence to encyclopedic value than beauty. Further, the picture is very small. J Milburn (talk) 10:31, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Stick around and try again. Not seeing this as FP, especially because of how it is buried down in gallery and really doesn't illustrate a concept per se. Try making a pic that really helps an article, because it has none (not 20 in gallery) and that shows something about the article.TCO (talk) 17:45, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 29 Jun 2011 at 11:05:24 (UTC)
Reason
The clarity is superb for an image that is over 100 years-old. The resolution is higher than the portrait used in DYK and on the List of Field Marshals of the British Army article
Can't decide, sell me. I have a hard time making a gut call or having the perspective on this sort of image. Can you please comment a little more about why FP? (at least educates me on how to decide on old pics, portraits, etc.)TCO (talk) 17:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can't check, Archive.org is blocked by my laptop's filter (I use a school-commissioned laptop), I assume it probably is, I can check when I get home though. —James(Talk • Contribs) • 9:04am •23:04, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support on conditions. Remove the period in the caption (per MOS), and then go in the article and enlarge the image similar to what is shown here. So it is actually being used in a way to show what is FP about it.TCO (talk) 17:27, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing prevents you from changing the caption, and pictures in articles, unless there is a COMPELLING reason why, should be kept at the default sizes so they work properly on various browsers and screens. Featured pictures shouldn't be larger in articles than any other normal picture. — raekyt22:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
They should neither be bigger nor smaller from being featured. The choice should be made based on useful information. For instance maps which are too tiny to see are an atrocity. In this case, being too small, we lose the human scale. the wiki MOS guidance is screwey. I would look at normal web design guidance first and foremost. TCO (talk) 22:35, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since I created this page then finding it cannot have been an issue. Furthermore, how can my activity or lack thereof have any bearing on the copyright status of the image? Starlightchild00:34, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I took the photo while we were waiting for the bats that live in the cave to fly out (they usually do so en masse at sundown). But it was getting dark and the little buggers wouldn't move so we had to get out of there so we wouldn't miss the bus back to Miri. I uploaded a photo taken a few minutes later for your viewing pleasure, my dear Gestapo. Check my contribs on Commons for it, not EV enough for the article. Starlightchild11:04, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose very poor quality (no sharpness, eeh dark parts are very noisy), too many underexposed parts. Amazing view and the composition is okay, too, but really don't featured because of the technical side. --kaʁstn18:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)**[reply]
I personally think that HDR images have limited encyclopaedic value since they most often do not provide a realistic representation of what's actually out there. Starlightchild20:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question: Is anyone else having rendering issues? It seems to start off with major artifacting issues, then after a couple minutes it goes into more detail, but still artifacting, and then it goes into more detail again. I'm not sure if I'm seeing an artifacted version right now...is this my computer or is there a direct link I can go to with better rendering? SpencerT♦C02:25, 28 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'm sympathetic to how hard it is to get good exposure shooting from the dark into the light especially when the whole scene isn't equally lighted however the underexposure, especially on most of the left side, is just too much. It's almost heresy for me to even suggest it but you could have down sampled the image. While that wouldn't have gotten rid of the noise it would have made it much less noticeable and the image still would have been large enough to meet guidelines and be easily useable. Cat-five - talk08:39, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A uranium metal "biscuit" from the reduction reaction
Reason
EV and composition
This is how uranium was refined into metal during World War 2, with the Ames process breakthrough technology, still used today. The 3-step visual is a more pleasant way to show the non-chemist, history-oriented, reader what was going down. Rather than describing all the reactions in text. Image is being used in an article, written by a Ph.D. historian, now at Featured Article Candidacy. Even for the science-strong, seeing what "things really look like" is an added insight.
I show the images from left to right in gallery to show steps in a process, culminating with final product). I have an ongoing interest to explore ways of showing information schematically and graphically. More than articles with text and interspersed photographic portraits, but flow diagrams and maps and charts and the like. This is why I brought you all that top/bottom, all four species gallery of painted turtles a few months ago.
Course that one time, I got a museum curator to donate a very high res image...and it was so realistic you did not know the animal ws stuffed, not live. But you still dinged me. :) TCO (talk) 08:42, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As above, not at this size! I think the EV and historical value are very strong though, I would be tempted to support higher res versions :) - ZephyrisTalk11:09, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments. Definitely feel more enthusiastic about an insect than another bird. That said, the article on this thing is almost nothing. So concerned about notability, thus encyclopedicity. Also, the two pics in article look very different...are we sure of the ID? Then not sure what animal is doing with it's head...is it's neck twisted? TCO (talk) 13:00, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Clarifying that in article would be helpful then. Would show that the pics were being used for explanation, not just illustration. And I suspected that might be the case, but did not know enough to say so, myself.TCO (talk) 19:27, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. Pity about the antenna overlapping each other, and the glare on the leaf is kind of a shame. But well-focused and encyclopedic. Spikebrennan (talk) 13:28, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose All the minor issues add up to not supporting; the overlapping antennae, the glare on the leaf, and the fact that the distribution of sun and shade really skewed my initial perception of the colors I was looking at. Great shot technically, and I wish I could support, but I can't. -RunningOnBrains(talk)04:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Opppose. Not sure what is special about the image. In article, the discussion is how to compare this bird to another bird, so what would really be helpful for the encyclopedia, would be side by side photos (not nescesarily the birds IRL) or drawings. Also, while I can resolve the bird from the background, the sand color is a bit similar to the bird.TCO (talk) 12:52, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps being sand colored would help with regard to predators? There is plenty of background separation at full size. Maybe it would have been good to get a little lower to the ground, but leaving the car would have probably flushed the bird. JJ Harrison (talk) 22:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Nice clean composition. But given its name, I would have liked to be able to see its toes. DOF is not quite enough to get the legs sharp. But I don't agree about the comparison to other birds... it's important to have good pics of each species! --99of9 (talk) 12:55, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]