Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/February 2009

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Audio recording of Chief Justice John G. Roberts and Barack Obama messing up their lines as they recite the Oath of office of the President of the United States. Has been commented on in numerous news items on television, and on websites of newspapers. Some scholars and constitutional lawyers have suggested Obama needs to retake the Oath again, correctly, otherwise he may not actually be President. I think this has high encyclopedic value.

Appears in Oath of office of the President of the United StatesJohn G. Roberts, and Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration.

• Nominate and support. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong support. High audience. High viewership across the world. Millions, possibly billions witnessed it live. Historic fluffing of lines. When and how could they tell him he's not President? And wouldn't everything he does have to be undone? Although I think such an occurrence has happened in the past so it ought to be fine. Certainly makes this all the more important. --➨♀♂Candlewicke _S^T _# :) 18:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support as a highly historically relevant moment. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Zginder 2009-01-21T22:11Z (UTC)

Promoted Barack Obama Oath of Office.ogg --Xclamation point 01:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My first FSC. I recorded this today from the United States Congress Joint Committee on Inaugural Ceremonies website's live webcast.

Appears in Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration and United States presidential inauguration

• Nominate and support. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 04:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Occasionally a speech has historic merit the moment its applause begins. Durova^Charge! 05:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support as a highly historically relevant moment. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support You beat me to it! Zginder 2009-01-21T22:10Z (UTC)

Promoted Barack Obama inauguration speech 2009.ogg --Xclamation point 01:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is an unusual nomination. Not only do we have a sound file of the address, we have a color video of the address, which was just coming into use at the time. We already have a featured sound for the inaugural address, but the video makes this event much more important. This has also replaced the old video on Inaugural address of John F. Kennedy, which was in black and white, and did not have the famous quote "And so my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."

• Nominate and support. Xclamation point 04:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support; I have seen videos up for WP:FPC, but in regards to sound, it sounds very good. On my speakers it's more or less crisp, although obviously has the disadvantage of being recorded by equipment of that time. JonCatalán^(Talk) 20:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Suggest change of venue to FPC. They promote videos. Would gladly support there. Durova^Charge! 18:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is a featured video on FS too, so it can be nominated both places. On this specific video, sound is more important than video, so this seems like the correct venue. Xclamation point 22:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes - I'd say we either need a special WP:FV or just nominate under whichever is the main focus - in this case, the sound. Dendodge Talk^Contribs 23:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Maybe we'll reach the point where videos merit their own category. For the benefit of the site's users it's much easier to search one content type than two. If I had noticed any other video nomination here I'd have opposed for the same reason. Purely procedurally; would proudly support in the other venue. Durova^Charge! 08:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • Since the nominator is unwilling to act on the suggestion, oppose procedurally. Balkanizing videos is not a good way to organize material for the site's visitors. FPC has been promoting videos since before any were nominated here. Durova^Charge! 19:24, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose How is this any different from File:JFK inaugural address.ogg? If we already have a audio recording featured, then why would we feature a video recording of the same audio recording? It's like featuring the exact same thing, one just has video to go along with it. And since this is WP:FS, the video part has little (if any) bearing on how we judge the nomination. The FS criteria are written specifically for the sound quality and is not meant to assess the visual quality of a recording. And to Dendodge, if we state the "main focus" of this recording is the sound, then we already have that recording featured, as stated above. I agree with Durova, please change the venue. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 05:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Again I agree with Durova above, I would most likely support this in another venue. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 12:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Support for the time being. Videos are currently still rare, so it is unlikely that we will have a Featured Videos page soon. We can always move it over if FV appears. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per JonCatalan. iMatthew // talk // 01:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted John F. Kennedy Inauguration Speech.ogv -- PeterSymonds (talk) 19:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Only one recording of these survive, the duet "Sì, pel ciel" from Otello. It is considered by many vocal connoisseurs to be the greatest single vocal record ever made. Among many other vocal feats in this recording, Ruffo, unlike any other Iago on records, manages an incredible, declamatory vocal style from beginning to end. Caruso rises to the challenge, and the result is unequalled by any other recorded tenor-baritone combination in recorded history." - Titta Ruffo.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:38, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I Noticed that the statement for this recording is "unequalled by any other recorded tenor-baritone combination in recorded history." is an unsourced statement in the article. Can you provide a citation of this? Zginder 2009-01-29T20:00Z (UTC)
  • Well, I didn't write that text, but it seems commensurate with Google Scholar's results on the recording. For instance, This one calls it "That paragon of recorded duets". Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 21:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Support Zginder 2009-02-02T17:18Z (UTC)
• Support - sufficient for Wikipedia Featured Sounds, it's important historical recording with a good sound. No need to insert uncited pompous statements... --Vejvančický (talk) 09:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Enrico Caruso, Titta Ruffo, Giuseppe Verdi, Sì, pel ciel marmoreo giuro! (Otello).ogg --Dendodge Talk^Contribs 22:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have been looking for a public domain recording of a Reagan speech on the internet, and this is the first one I found. We have no historic recordings featured between Carter and George W. Bush.

• Nominate and support. Zginder 2009-01-20T22:19Z (UTC)
• Support I've got another one in mind; should be room for two. :) Durova^Charge! 08:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Though we have an awful lot of these presidential speeches, annoyingly, they're all decidedly encyclopedic. ish it didn't cut off the applause so abruptly, but that's a minor flaw. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Ronald Reagan First Inaugural.ogg

An excellent duet, gives us both a file for a major opera and a major singer which didn't have one before. Plus, it's one of the better-preserved historical recordings.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 06:23, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. Durova^Charge! 23:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - beautiful duet, the crackle in the backgroung is not so disturbing. I have my breakfast right now, and it's very nice addendum to my coffee and croissant :)) --Vejvančický (talk) 09:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Caruso, Journet, Charles Gounod's Faust, 'O merveille! ... A moi les plaisirs'.ogg

I think it highly interesting to compare the operas. Although I was unable to remove some geiger-counter like distortion at two (thankfully brief) points near the end, I think that the educational benefit of hearing an otherwise decent recording of such a rare opera win out. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - the louder parts in the second half are too distorted. --Vejvančický (talk) 08:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment just to clarify you should put a copyright tag for your restoration work. Zginder 2009-01-21T03:28Z (UTC)
  • Done. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 08:13, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Xclamation point 20:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While there's a little hiss, the powerful contralto voice shines through. We have no other contralto works in featured sounds, and I think that this is a huge shame, that should be corrected as soon as possible.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 23:42, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support: This plugs a massive gap in the FS stock, and would be a welcome addition - the quality is good, as is the EV. Dendodge Talk^Contribs 00:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support.  GARDEN  21:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Gabriella Besanzoni, Giuseppi Verdi, Stride la vampa (Il Trovatore).ogg --Xclamation point 20:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This speech is in the artilces 2002 State of the Union Address, and axis of evil.

• Nominate and support. Zginder 2009-01-29T03:56Z (UTC)
• Support: This is historically significant, and of good quality. I see no reason not to make this a featured sound. *Dendodge Talk^Contribs 00:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - It's actually really quite interesting to see just how much has changed in 7 years - Guantamano Bay being mentioned and applauded? The Iraq war already being set up, and being applauded? The weapons of mass destruction argument for Iraq, the axis of evil - the context have changed so much for all of these. Something that will be discussed and endlessly excerpted by generations of historians. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Gwbush2002stateoftheunion.ogg Xclamation point 20:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ronald Reagan's challenge from the Berlin Wall to end the Cold War. Appears at Foreign policy of the Reagan administration, Brandenburg Gate, and Tear down this wall.

• Nominate and support. Durova^Charge! 18:14, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I was trying to find this. Where is the University of Virginia Miller Center for Public Affairs' copyright policy I can not seem to find it? Zginder 2009-01-21T22:14Z (UTC)
  • The Miller Center cannot assert copyright over faithful reproductions of material under US Government public domain. Durova^Charge! 19:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support.  GARDEN  21:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Reagan Brandenburg Gate speech.ogg Xclamation point 20:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speech from 16 September 1974. Transcript at Wikisource. Appears at Presidency of Gerald Ford.

• Nominate and support. Durova^Charge! 22:04, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Zginder 2009-01-20T22:48Z (UTC)
• Support.  GARDEN  21:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Gerald Ford Vietnam clemency speech.ogg. Xclamation point 20:42, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not the easiest restoration, but I think it came out pretty good, and we had neither a recording for Amato, nor and vocal music for Carmen or Bizet.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support - when we take into consideration that the recording is from 1911, the sound quality is sufficient. The historical value is incontestable in this case. --Vejvančický (talk) 07:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Here and here are two different restorations of the same recording (just for comparison). --Vejvančický (talk) 20:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The first is the one this was cleaned from. I'm actually rather glad I found this recording - historic recordings of Carmen are surprisingly bad on the whole, and this is easily the best PD recording I was able to find.

If someone wanted to make a CC-recording of an opera, Carmen would be a good choice - I haven't been able to find any other song from it that even approaches "acceptable" in recording and performance quality. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. Xclamation point 20:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A quartet where every one of the performers is a star in their own right. While it has the flaws typical of early recordings, I nonetheless think this is an excellent version of the piece, exciting and fun.

• Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 15:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. Surprisingly clean recording with only few clicks in the first half. Here is a link for comparison. --Vejvančický (talk) 09:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was able to clea most of the clicks, but there was a couple in the first half where if I removed them, the slight skip made it sound like Caruso had an unpleasant vibrato. Caruso does NOT have an unpleasant vibrato: The clicks stay. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 15:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Support I like the sound quality. Zginder 2009-02-27T14:20Z (UTC)

Promoted Enrico Caruso, Bessie Abott, Louise Homer, Antonio Scotti, Giuseppe Verdi, Bella figlia dell' amore (Rigoletto).ogg Xclamation point 20:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:Fair use, fair use content can't be transcluded except in articles. The sound has been removed.

This recording was originally created by Tennessee Ernie Ford, but I have trimmed it so that it is only a small bit, the chorus of the song. This is the original version, which features Ernie ford and no later version of the song exists, making this, not rare, but not an easily found hardcopy. It appears here.

• Nominate and support. TARTARUS ^talk 22:37, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Tartarus, the song is very funny - give me some drink and I can dance whole 17 seconds! :)) Sorry, but the background distortion isn't acceptable for me. This is not sufficient for Featured sounds.Oppose. --Vejvančický (talk) 23:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Extracts from copyrighted works are usable on Wikipedia, but require a fair use rationale. Sadly, though, they aren't eligible for featured sound status, as we're not supposed to use them outside of the article. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 06:20, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, well, worth a hope and a dream... I withdraw as this is obviously not a featured sound. TARTARUS ^talk 12:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted -- PeterSymonds (talk) 21:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]