Remember that threaded discussions or comments are not appropriate on the evidence page (but they are on the workshop page). Responses in a separate section (under one's own "Evidence presented by X" heading) are, however, appropriate. --Iamunknown 21:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Question: is there a way to provide a diff for a block? The header for evidence suggests that linking to logs is to be avoid (as they're subject to change). So what is the proper method to show evidence of a block being placed if no talk page message was left? Thanks in advance, --Bfigura (talk) 21:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I suspect the thing about not linking to a log is meant to refer to logs that are very active. eg. An admin's deletion logs to "show" that he deleted something. It makes more sense to link to the article's deletion log, as that should, in theory, be only displayed on a single page, as opposed to pages and pages of entries. Ditto for a block log. Just to be sure, you can give the date and time of the block. You can give diffs for other associated actions as well (such as leaving a talk page block message), but to show wording in the block log summary, you have no other option, as far as I'm aware, than to link to the block log. In this case, don't link to Alkivar's log showing the block actions he made, but link to the log of the user being blocked. eg. This is Alkivar's log of the blocks and unblocks he has made (for the record, 509 from 01:26, 9 November 2005 to 18:16, 15 October 2007). His latest block of G2bambino shows up there at the top for now, but would soon get lost in the noise. A better way to link to that block is to link to G2bambino's block log (the log of times G2bambino was blocked), for which see here, to give the date and time (18:16, 15 October 2007), and to quote the block log summary by Alkivar as "Repeated violations of Wikipedia copyright policy: block fully justified by policy." It would be nice to be able to give a direct 'diff' for a block, but that is all I know that is possible. Hope that helps. Carcharoth 21:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks much for the help. That's pretty much what I had, but I'll copy the time/date/summary into my evidence summary. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 22:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- To link to a specific block, use the following form: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=Alkivar&page=User:G2bambino&from=20071015162525&until=20071015162625. Note how I used timestamps there at the end. Picaroon (t) 22:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Even better. Thanks. I'll update my section, then if that isn't in the diff help (I might have missed it), I'll add it. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 22:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I thought there might have been a way to do it. I've used timestamps to delimit a set of contributions, but never a block log. Maybe the Arbcom boilerplate saying not to link to logs needs to be changed as well? Carcharoth 23:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I've updated it. Picaroon (t) 23:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I've also gone and updated Wikipedia:Simple_diff_and_link_guide. Best, --Bfigura (talk) 23:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- And I added this. If there is an easier way of doing this (eg. simply using start and end times, rather than an offset time and a limit), please change that and let me know. Thanks. Carcharoth 01:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I recently added evidence to the page, but I wanted to make sure that it is appropriate to include here. I've reviewed the relevant pages, and this seems to be the case, though I'd like a final assurance. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 15:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, looks okay. The last few sentences diverge from providing evidence into providing your own opinions, but there's no need to be unduly formal and move them. Picaroon (t) 15:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]