Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/RK 2

  • As the person who filed the original RfA complaint against RK after yet another foul-mouthed insult, I urge the committee to examine the evidence on which basis the ruling was made. --Zero 23:27, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

WTF? Are people now able to appeal everything ad infinitum or is this just yet another case where RK gets off whenever he performs his patented Oscar-winning victim role? STOP GIVING HIM FAVORS ALL THE TIME AND START IMPLEMENTING YOUR OWN RULINGS!!! -- A very pissed off Dissident (Talk) 18:48, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I hope that Dissident stops the angry personal attacks. I do not know why he imagines that being given a one-year ban on editing Judaism articles is a "favor", or why he imagines that being allowed to use RFA as all other Wikipedians do is unfair. The rules for Wikipedia apply equally to all. It is grossly unfair to hold that I alone am forbidden to follow Wikipedia rules as other people do! The above remarks from Dissident and Zero are angry, and do not seem reasonable. In any case, neither of their comments have anything to do with the specific case at hand; they seem very confused about the issue. There is no issue of me being banned from Wikipedia. The issue, rather, is about a one-year ban on editing Judaism-related articles. Articles, it must be noted, that they themlsevs generally do not edit. In point of fact - and please see this for yourself - they do not cooperate with others in the WikiProject on Judaism articles, while I do. In contrast, the people who do edit the Judaism articles are not in favor of this egegious ban, and even many Wikipedia Admins and Sysops are confused about this. RK 20:55, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)

For years, I have seen you terrorize other Wikipedians, only to, when finally called to answer yourself to "higher authorities", act like nothing happened afterwards. Now, I find it incredulous to believe that after all this time you would finally decide to reform yourself, but what I find outrageous is that you dare to put on an acute amnesiac pretense with the air of an upstanding Wikicitizen. Well, you're not and the record is there for all to see. You're an intellectual terrorist and a liar, and for me and I dare say a lot of people who know you, you've already WAY passed the point of Wikipedia:assume good faith. Now take a good look at that link again (and don't you dare act like it doesn't exist!) and tell me why the arbitration committee wasn't justified in giving you every punishment they did gave you. -- Dissident (Talk) 21:20, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Re: The ban is especially bizarre and puzzling because the people who edit these articles do not support the ban. This is quite an understatement; most of us ardently oppose the ban and lost a considerable amount of respect for the arbitration process when it was imposed. (I could even start a petition demonstrating this fact, if anyone asks.) Our Judaism-related articles have already suffered enough due to RK's three-month block. 172 10:42, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)


Dissident - All we have agreed to do is look at the evidence again. Agreeing to hear an appeal is not the same thing as agreeing that RK has been treated unfairly. I understand that you are angry, but let me assure you that we are not soft, we are not stupid, and we are not going to make a descision that will be detrimental to Wikipedia. If you can provide any evidence on the evidence page that you feel will help us to come to a proper descision I would find that very useful. Theresa Knott (The snott rake) 08:37, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

What evidence can you honestly expect me to supply if RK was just recently unbanned? Is the original evidence page not good enough? In a nutshell, it's clear that one cannot expect RK to refrain himself from frothing at the mouth while hurling insults if things don't go his away, especially when it concerns Anti-Semitism (real or imagined), Israel and/or Zionism. -- Dissident (Talk) 17:06, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
RK claims that that the problems he had with Jewish articles had all been solved long ago. If you have any evidence to the contrary, for example RK behaving badly just before he was banned then that would be important. But if you don't have any evidence like that, then it don't fret. Of course the original evidence page is good enough. We will be looking at all of it again. Theresa Knott (The snott rake) 08:41, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)